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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:27 PM Jun 2013

Video: Nestle CEO says water should be privatized and sold for profit, is not a human right.

I'm sure this has made the rounds here in the past; it is the first time I've seen video:

From 2 minutes to 3:40, he clearly indicates that water should be privatized and marketed to the population of the world.



In the first two minutes, he discusses how Nestle are the largest foodstuff corporation in the world, the 27th largest corporation overall. He uses the word foodstuff to also describe water. He also argues for the use of GMOs.

I don't even want to see the rest.
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Video: Nestle CEO says water should be privatized and sold for profit, is not a human right. (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 OP
So do we have to pay this motherfucker every time it rains? Aristus Jun 2013 #1
There are laws about collecting rainwater in utah, Colorado, and Washington. djean111 Jun 2013 #5
"I believe there is a law that homeowners should save rainwater." Laws don't allow for "should." WinkyDink Jun 2013 #37
Pardon my incorrect use of the word "should". You are correct!!!!!! djean111 Jun 2013 #42
Lookout sunshine. That will be next. nt ladjf Jun 2013 #34
I don't know about anyone else but I've always paid a water utilitizes every month. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #2
He would have it be illegal to drink it from a stream, to catch it in your mouth as it falls from Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #6
You are paying for the utility company to access the water, purify it, Aristus Jun 2013 #8
you getting technical on me? LOL, I wonder what he thinks Jesus would say to him? I know. Your a southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #9
Have no issues with the head of a mega-corporation making decisions for the rest of humanity? MMM? Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #11
me neither. I don't think god would want us to pay for water. it is a god given right. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #38
do you pay the utility company (presumably part of the city or county) or do you pay a niyad Jun 2013 #13
Yeah, imagine HOW MUCH MORE it would cost if corporations privatized water. Much more so, I imagine. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #16
the water company in the city Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #32
so you don't have a problem with this greedy, grasping bastard saying water is not a human right? niyad Jun 2013 #33
I was reaponding to the.poster who said that Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #35
Your private co. is only as good as the public one's existence. Better hope the latter sticks around WinkyDink Jun 2013 #39
not true Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #41
I think it's the city. Now am not complain about it because they have to make sure the plant southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #36
Please stick to chocolate bars, Mr. Nestle. reformist2 Jun 2013 #3
their "chocolate" is not fit to eat niyad Jun 2013 #17
I once toured the HERSHEY'S CHOCOLATE factory in PA AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #19
Me too! Matariki Jun 2013 #24
milton hershey would roll over in his grave if he knew what was going on with his company. niyad Jun 2013 #27
They've been stealing it in Michigan for a decade. MichiganVote Jun 2013 #4
Goddamit. This video is old as hell, and it gets posted 10 times a year. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #7
has the basic outlook of this disgusting corporation changed for the better in that time? niyad Jun 2013 #14
Maybe not. Can we update our screeds against them so they're less than 5 years old? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #18
when the thinking is the same, what difference does it make? the battle for water is ongoing, niyad Jun 2013 #22
Brabeck is currently chairman of the board. The present CEO is his employee. pa28 Jun 2013 #28
No, he's the Chairman, so he's the boss of the CEO of Nestle Kennah Jun 2013 #45
You do understand that he is talking about water in a totally different context. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #46
Fascism does have to look out for it's own future and do some planning Kennah Jun 2013 #48
I can't watch it. ananda Jun 2013 #10
"Sociopathic" is the perfect word. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #12
anybody else here remember the nestle infant formula scandals? niyad Jun 2013 #15
Very vaguely...I'm almost afraid to ask to be reminded, especially in light of the OP... Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #21
read here: niyad Jun 2013 #25
Thanks... Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #31
I wish he'd talk with the folks in Cochabamba, Bolivia about how well that policy worked out derby378 Jun 2013 #20
They kicked out the water privatizers, didn't they? Solidarity! Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #23
They finally did - but not before innocent blood was shed derby378 Jun 2013 #26
He is such a creep. Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #29
Wait until this pile'o'shit in a suit realizes we need air as well. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #30
Well dah, I paid $54.25 last month for doc03 Jun 2013 #40
They, Inc. (R) trash the planet. Then charge the proles for every drop. Berlum Jun 2013 #43
Video might be old, from 2005, but discussing it appears to be having an effect Kennah Jun 2013 #44
Yep. While searching for this video, I came across a page on nestle.com Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #47
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. There are laws about collecting rainwater in utah, Colorado, and Washington.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:42 PM
Jun 2013

In Los Angeles, I believe there is a law that homeowners should save rainwater.
Water and sunlight and wind - once the 1% figure out how to block and charge for these, they will.
Perhaps ratchet up the charges for using the grid, and placing levies on batteries and solar panels.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
37. "I believe there is a law that homeowners should save rainwater." Laws don't allow for "should."
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jun 2013
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
42. Pardon my incorrect use of the word "should". You are correct!!!!!!
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:18 AM
Jun 2013

Here is the proposed law, I don't know if it was passed:
"A new proposed law to go into effect in 2011 could have Los Angeles residents changing their habits when it comes to rainfall. Rather than just complaining that there's some strange wet substance falling from the sky, all new homes, large developments, and some redevelopment projects will start to appreciate those few rainy days by harvesting and redirecting rainfall. The Department of Public Works has unanimously approved the new ordinance that will require the use of several different methods to capture, reuse or redirect runoff from 3/4 inch or heavier rainstorms. Does this mean LA is becoming water wise? Ecolocalizer reports, "Not only will Los Angeles' new ordinance help to recycle our planet's most precious resource, it will also help to keep polluted urban water out of our increasingly acidic seas. The Board of Public Works Commissioner Paula Daniels, who initially drafted the ordinance last July, explained that the new requirements would prevent over 104 million gallons of polluted urban runoff from ending up in the ocean."
This is from treehugger.com.
Preemptive defense - not sure about the difference between ordinance and law here. But feel it is a good idea for Los Angeles.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
6. He would have it be illegal to drink it from a stream, to catch it in your mouth as it falls from
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jun 2013

the sky when it rains. "Not a human right" is fairly clear. Infrastructure taxes for human rights services are not corporate for-profit industries.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
8. You are paying for the utility company to access the water, purify it,
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jun 2013

and get it to your faucet. Not the water itself.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
9. you getting technical on me? LOL, I wonder what he thinks Jesus would say to him? I know. Your a
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jun 2013
prick for the first degree. Yep.
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
11. Have no issues with the head of a mega-corporation making decisions for the rest of humanity? MMM?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jun 2013

Corporate apologists make me sick. I for one do NOT welcome our new plutonomist overlords.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
13. do you pay the utility company (presumably part of the city or county) or do you pay a
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jun 2013

PRIVATE corporation? are you aware of the water battles being fought, the attempt to privatize the commons, and make even our community water a for-profit enterprise?

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
16. Yeah, imagine HOW MUCH MORE it would cost if corporations privatized water. Much more so, I imagine.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jun 2013

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
32. the water company in the city
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jun 2013

Grew up in has always been privatel..and where I live now it is private..and cheaper that the city water my neighbors are on...and it pisses the city off to no end lol, to rhe point they have talked about trying to shut them down.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
33. so you don't have a problem with this greedy, grasping bastard saying water is not a human right?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jun 2013

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
35. I was reaponding to the.poster who said that
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jun 2013

Private is evil when it comes to water companies. I did not endorse what they guy from nestle said. ...lide isn't black and white... usually the best parh is somewhat in the middle.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
39. Your private co. is only as good as the public one's existence. Better hope the latter sticks around
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jun 2013

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
41. not true
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 11:25 PM
Jun 2013

Neither owe it's existance to the other. One was built with tax payer money, the other was built with private money (family owned). The private water co has much better service.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
36. I think it's the city. Now am not complain about it because they have to make sure the plant
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jun 2013

is taken care of and we have to pay for that. But water is a god given right to us all.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
19. I once toured the HERSHEY'S CHOCOLATE factory in PA
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jun 2013

Before that, I loved Chocolate, but after walking though the area where the Chocolate vats were, the smell was so strong, it nearly turned my stomach. I could not eat any chocolate for a few months after that experience. I thought it was funny, as you were leaving they had huge chunks of chocoloate for sale, that were broken or in some way defective for bargain prices. There was no way I would buy any of that... and had I been smart, I would have bought it before going into that vat room. I had the smell of Chocolate in my nose for about a week after that.. and couldn't stand to even look at a candy bar.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
24. Me too!
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jun 2013

I was 8 years old and in ecstasy! There was see-through, swimming pool sized box of chocolate being 'stirred' like a seesaw. Man if that was ever a little kid's wet dream!

niyad

(132,440 posts)
27. milton hershey would roll over in his grave if he knew what was going on with his company.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jun 2013
 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
4. They've been stealing it in Michigan for a decade.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jun 2013

And of course, our state mislegislature doesn't bat an eye.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
7. Goddamit. This video is old as hell, and it gets posted 10 times a year.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jun 2013

This dude has not been CEO of Nestle in this decade!

Enough already.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
14. has the basic outlook of this disgusting corporation changed for the better in that time?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jun 2013
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
18. Maybe not. Can we update our screeds against them so they're less than 5 years old?
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jun 2013

niyad

(132,440 posts)
22. when the thinking is the same, what difference does it make? the battle for water is ongoing,
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jun 2013

and going to get far more serious than even the battles for oil. but, hey, nice try at deflecting a really serious problem. whether ten years ago, or ten minutes ago, that statement should have been roundly denounced as the theft of the commons that it is.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
28. Brabeck is currently chairman of the board. The present CEO is his employee.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jun 2013

The vision for privatization of water outlined in the video continues to progress just as he planned it and this piece continues to be relevant fodder for information and discussion.

Sorry you think it's been overplayed but many others of us would disagree.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
45. No, he's the Chairman, so he's the boss of the CEO of Nestle
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jun 2013

Here is a more current video.

"If Nestle and myself have become very vocal in the area of water, it was not because of any philanthropic idea. It was very simple. By analyzing what is the single most important factor for the sustainability of Nestle, water came as the number one subject."

This is a very disturbing trend. Corporations are beginning to toss around the word sustainability, but they are talking about Corporate sustainability. It is all part of our march toward fascism.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
46. You do understand that he is talking about water in a totally different context.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jun 2013

He is speaking of the necessity of Nestle becoming more sustainable in their approach to their use of water as an industry. He's talking about developing the use of better practices within Nestle for being better about their use, conservation, recycling of water.

This is not about selling water to third world countries.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
21. Very vaguely...I'm almost afraid to ask to be reminded, especially in light of the OP...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jun 2013

But please do tell...

niyad

(132,440 posts)
25. read here:
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jun 2013

Nestlé boycott
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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A boycott was launched in the United States on July 7, 1977, against the Swiss-based Nestlé corporation. It spread in the United States, and expanded into Europe in the early 1980s. It was prompted by concern about Nestle's "aggressive marketing" of breast milk substitutes (infant formula), particularly in less economically developed countries (LEDCs), which campaigners claim contributes to the unnecessary suffering and deaths of babies, largely among the poor.[1] Among the campaigners, Professor Derek Jelliffe and his wife Patrice, who contributed to establish the World Alliance for Breastfeeding Action (WABA), were particularly instrumental in helping to coordinate the boycott and giving it ample visibility worldwide.
. . .
The baby milk issue

Groups such as the International Baby Food Action Network (IBFAN) and Save the Children claim that the promotion of infant formula over breastfeeding has led to health problems and deaths among infants in less economically developed countries.[2][3] There are four problems that can arise when poor mothers in developing countries switch to formula:

Formula must normally be mixed with water, which is often contaminated in poor countries, leading to disease in vulnerable infants.[4] Because of the low literacy rates in developing nations, many mothers are not aware of the sanitation methods needed in the preparation of bottles. Even mothers able to read in their native tongue may be unable to read the language in which sterilization directions are written.

Although some mothers can understand the sanitation standards required, they often do not have the means to perform them: fuel to boil water, electric (or other reliable) light to enable sterilisation at night. UNICEF estimates that a formula-fed child living in disease-ridden and unhygienic conditions is between 6 and 25 times more likely to die of diarrhea and four times more likely to die of pneumonia than a breastfed child.[5]

Many poor mothers use less formula powder than is necessary, in order to make a container of formula last longer. As a result, some infants receive inadequate nutrition from weak solutions of formula.[6]

Breast milk has many natural benefits lacking in formula. Nutrients and antibodies are passed to the baby while hormones are released into the mother's body.[7] Breastfed babies are protected, in varying degrees, from a number of illnesses, including diarrhea, bacterial meningitis, gastroenteritis, ear infection, and respiratory infection.[8][9][10] Breast milk contains the right amount of the nutrients essential for neuronal (brain and nerve) development.[11] The bond between baby and mother can be strengthened during breastfeeding.[9] Frequent and exclusive breastfeeding can also delay the return of fertility, which can help women in developing countries to space their births.[12] The World Health Organization recommends that, in the majority of cases, babies should be exclusively breast fed for the first six months.[13]

Advocacy groups and charities have accused Nestlé of unethical methods of promoting infant formula over breast milk to poor mothers in developing countries.[14][15] For example, IBFAN claim that Nestlé distributes free formula samples to hospitals and maternity wards; after leaving the hospital, the formula is no longer free, but because the supplementation has interfered with lactation, the family must continue to buy the formula. IBFAN also allege that Nestlé uses "humanitarian aid" to create markets, does not label its products in a language appropriate to the countries where they are sold, and offers gifts and sponsorship to influence health workers to promote its products.[16] Nestlé denies these allegations

. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott



GSB: Social impact hub

Nestlé baby milk scandal has grown up but not gone away


Nestle


At the World Economic Forum in Davos, I gave Nestlé chair Peter Brabeck, a present – an original, signed copy of The Baby Killer, the 1974 report that I wrote for War on Want.
The Baby Killer explained how multinational milk companies like his were causing infant illness and death in poor communities by promoting bottle feeding and discouraging breast feeding.
Our Swiss associates were less subtle. They titled the report "Nestlé Toten Babies" (or Nestlé Kills Babies), which a Swiss court found was libelous. On the substance of the argument, however, the judge warned Nestlé that if the company did not want to face accusations of causing death and illness through sales practices such as using sales reps dressed in nurses' uniforms, they should change the way that they did business.

That shocked the company and undermined its benevolent self-image. It also launched a long-running global campaign, proving that networked social action was possible even in snail mail days.

Nestlé boycotts spread from Switzerland and Britain to the US, where shareholder activism and court challenges against other milk companies – led by the Sisters of the Precious Blood, a religious order working under the umbrella of the Interfaith Centre for Corporate Responsibility – achieved a fine balance between grassroots organising, legal process and catchy communication.

The campaigns attracted wide-spread support from medical professionals, health authorities and civil society in developing countries. So in 1981, the UN World Health Assembly (the governing body of the World Health Organisation) recommended the adoption of an international code of conduct to govern the promotion and sale of breast milk substitutes. Global regulation of consumer industries was – and remains – a threat to business. UN resolutions are "soft law" that have little direct effect, yet often lead to hard national enforcement.

. . . .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sustainable-business/nestle-baby-milk-scandal-food-industry-standards


. . . . .

image boycottnestle.blogspot.com

Nestlé’s marketing techniques in promotion of the use of the infant fromula in the Third World countries have been considered unethical. Nestlé was also not quite well acting in accordance with the established moral standards worldwide. The company used very aggressive marketing what also included hiring unqualified sales girls who were promoting the baby formula without possessing enough knowledge of the formula itself and its safety requirements.

new-mothers-everywhere-received-promotional-material-for-formula the-baby-killer-blew-the-lid-off-the-formula-industry-in-1974 boycottnestle.blogspot.com

Besides handing out pamphlets and samples to new mothers, the company hired “sales girls” in nurses uniforms (sometimes qualified, sometimes not) to drop by the households unannounced and sell them on baby formula. As one mother recounts a Nestlé “milk nurse’s” sales pitch: “The nurse began by saying … breastfeeding was best. She then went on detail the supplementary foods that the breastfed baby would need … The nurse was implying that it was possible to start with a proprietary baby milk from birth, which would avoid these unnecessary problems” (Source: Baby Milk Action. The Business Insider)



Nestlé, as one of the leading nutrition multinationals, should have been more aware of how the baby formula should have been promoted and advertised in the Third World countries where the level of povery, stagnation, education and cultural development are lower than compare to the developing or developed countries. Nestlé somehow ignored the problems with water supplies, cleanliness of water, and also how mothers in less developed countries would keep the bottles sterile and clean (Feeding and Nutrition of Infants and Young Children).

. . .

http://blsciblogs.baruch.cuny.edu/mgt4880nestle/2013/04/22/crisis-facts-problems-and-issues/

derby378

(30,262 posts)
20. I wish he'd talk with the folks in Cochabamba, Bolivia about how well that policy worked out
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jun 2013
El agua es nuestra, carajo!

doc03

(39,086 posts)
40. Well dah, I paid $54.25 last month for
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jun 2013

2000 gallons. Oh and probably another $20 for water fit to drink.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
43. They, Inc. (R) trash the planet. Then charge the proles for every drop.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:25 AM
Jun 2013

Massive suckage is afoot.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
47. Yep. While searching for this video, I came across a page on nestle.com
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jun 2013

where they way NO! He's a good man and despite that video, wants water to be for everyone!



Pure bullshit. The corporate only think in one direction and it's very very clear. They may be talking a good game to the contrary, but money talks. I believe they were just thrown out of Arkansas for draining a river.

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