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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:06 PM Jun 2013

New Electronic License Plates Could Be Controlled By DMV, Law Enforcement Agencies

Now that Big Brother is all up in your cell phone and your email, why not your car, too?

Under a proposal reportedly being considered in South Carolina, metal license plates could be swapped out for electronic ones that would give the DMV or law enforcement agencies the power to broadcast messages directly onto the back of cars.

Such messages could read "Uninsured" or "Suspended" for people who are driving without insurance, or "Stolen" in cases of auto theft.

"We actually put that wording on the license plate across the top and, depending on how the state wants it, it could be in bright red, and we can actually [have the plate] flashing as it goes down the road," Brian Bannister, the co-founder of Compliance Innovations, the company that developed the technology, told CBS local affiliate WSPA-TV.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/electronic-license-plates_n_3424050.html

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New Electronic License Plates Could Be Controlled By DMV, Law Enforcement Agencies (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 OP
and a "wee" error in that system could get one killed... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1
But, there is no money for expanding medicaid and food assistance... HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #17
So now tracking every car with a gps signal JimDandy Jun 2013 #2
Chances are your car already has GPS. Multiple GPS's if you carry your smartphone with you. tridim Jun 2013 #4
License plate gps signals would give the GOVT JimDandy Jun 2013 #5
Fight it then, poutrage accomplishes nothing. tridim Jun 2013 #9
I wouldn't call that "reasonably safe" tkmorris Jun 2013 #27
The Obama Admin is arguing for direct Goverment access to GPS data in all cars? tridim Jun 2013 #31
duplication of the GPS cell phone in the driver's pocket markiv Jun 2013 #10
I see what you did there. JimDandy Jun 2013 #15
cell phones are real time too markiv Jun 2013 #21
But they need a Warrant One_Life_To_Give Jun 2013 #24
You beat me to it. JimDandy Jun 2013 #33
The National Snooping Association will love it. L0oniX Jun 2013 #22
Good gawd, will this never end? nt Live and Learn Jun 2013 #3
no... it's all down hill from here... nebenaube Jun 2013 #7
Koch brothers donated to ACLU to oppose PATRIOT Act markiv Jun 2013 #13
does he not also fund all the think tanks responsible for producing it? n/t nebenaube Jun 2013 #14
can you directly cite your claim markiv Jun 2013 #23
Why not just mandate chip implants at birth and be done with it... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #6
LOL... Seriously we are headed there if we don't stop JimDandy Jun 2013 #20
The mark of Cain for your car. Nika Jun 2013 #8
Wow, that would be REALLY hard to get around snooper2 Jun 2013 #11
Nice, well this will at least get more hackers out of the house and on the road. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #12
The possibilities are endless. n/t JimDandy Jun 2013 #18
" But, Officer, his License plate said "Hit Me"." formercia Jun 2013 #28
Huge end run around the Court's decision that GPS JimDandy Jun 2013 #16
How about an arrest mugshot or "I am speeding right now" or "X-Con" L0oniX Jun 2013 #19
This is getting out of control Marrah_G Jun 2013 #25
"Iowa City to ban red-light cameras, drones, and license plate readers too" Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #26
That is wonderful. Too bad it is only 1 city. nt Live and Learn Jun 2013 #34
Boy imagine hacking them.......... Historic NY Jun 2013 #29
fine by me flamingdem Jun 2013 #30
Don't most govts want to at least *look like* they're keeping costs down? lpbk2713 Jun 2013 #32
I have nothing to moparlunatic Jun 2013 #35
It would be great if you could hack them. So, the clown in his Mom's BMW, who just cut FSogol Jun 2013 #36
freaking creepy HiPointDem Jun 2013 #37
I want to be able to give other drivers the finger. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #38

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
1. and a "wee" error in that system could get one killed...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jun 2013

Someone vindictive reporting a car (theirs or not) stolen?
That clerical error that suggests your license is suspended or the car not current on registration?

Exuberant officer wanting to "up his/her quota?" Make a name for themselves?

Yeah, what could go wrong?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
17. But, there is no money for expanding medicaid and food assistance...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013

What went so wrong and when did it go so wrong in America?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
2. So now tracking every car with a gps signal
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:11 PM
Jun 2013

is going to be the norm? People better wake up and start saying NO!

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
5. License plate gps signals would give the GOVT
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jun 2013

real time tracking of your vehicles. That means giving express permission to the government to track your car's every movement and location. They must be salivating over the info they can grab from doing this.

And, after this NSA spying and tracking of our phones, I wouldn't trust any law or rule they enact in order to appease us that we aren't being spied on and tracked in our vehicles.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
9. Fight it then, poutrage accomplishes nothing.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jun 2013

This is a proposal, not a law.

It's reasonably safe to assume that no government will ever track any American car with GPS and without a warrant. That is an obvious invasion of privacy, and very few will give express permission to do that.

That said, the Police track cars with warrants and LoJack/GPS every day. A cop found my stolen car once by tracking my LoJack.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
27. I wouldn't call that "reasonably safe"
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jun 2013

After all, the Obama administration and it's justice department is arguing for exactly that. It's possible the USSC may continue to disallow it but I wouldn't exactly bet the ranch on it.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
31. The Obama Admin is arguing for direct Goverment access to GPS data in all cars?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jun 2013

That assertion certainly requires a link.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
15. I see what you did there.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jun 2013


The licence plates' GPS signals would actually be worse, though, because the signals would be accessible in real time to the government and WITHOUT a warrant.
 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
21. cell phones are real time too
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:10 PM
Jun 2013

you think your phone isnt pinging towers as you move along, whether you are on a call or not?

how do you think your phone rings, when you take a flight across country? you really think every single tower in the country rings your phone, every time it rings?

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
24. But they need a Warrant
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jun 2013

To use it criminally against you still requires a court issued warrant. Whereas the data from your state issued transponder is already gov't property and usable against you without further warrant or court order.

 

nebenaube

(3,496 posts)
7. no... it's all down hill from here...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:52 PM
Jun 2013

And in a few years (or less), somebody like the Koch Brothers will have unfettered control and access to it.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
13. Koch brothers donated to ACLU to oppose PATRIOT Act
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jun 2013


therre's plenty you can criticize them for, but blaming them for this stuff is ignorant

http://www.lasocialdiary.com/node/125921

(launching the 2008-2009 season would be Bush era)



Last Tuesday night the New York City Ballet launched its 2008-2009 season with An Opening Night Celebration .........

David Koch has had a prominent social presence.........He and his brother Charles, along with George Soros, the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation each contributed $10 million to the ACLU to defeat parts of the USA Patriot Act.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
6. Why not just mandate chip implants at birth and be done with it...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jun 2013

...jeebus aitch christ on a bike...when will it end???

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
12. Nice, well this will at least get more hackers out of the house and on the road.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jun 2013

Can you imagine how these things could be hacked?



PB

formercia

(18,479 posts)
28. " But, Officer, his License plate said "Hit Me"."
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jun 2013

Much better than a Post-it note slapped on the Back.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
16. Huge end run around the Court's decision that GPS
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013

tracking of vehicles by law enforcement (the Government) is illegal without a warrant.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
30. fine by me
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jun 2013

I've experienced the uninsured driver and non-citizen road impact scenario.

It's very dangerous out there especially with drivers who drink on top of the rest.

lpbk2713

(42,742 posts)
32. Don't most govts want to at least *look like* they're keeping costs down?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 03:28 PM
Jun 2013




How many times does this brainfart multiply the price of the plain ole vanilla tag?
Add too, the cost of the program to keep all msgs functional and up to date.





moparlunatic

(82 posts)
35. I have nothing to
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jun 2013

hide so it doesn't bother me if it makes us safer than, oh wait sorry wrong thread. It's ok for phone and internet tracking but I draw the line when it comes to my car.

FSogol

(45,453 posts)
36. It would be great if you could hack them. So, the clown in his Mom's BMW, who just cut
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jun 2013

me off, plate would read, "DOUCHE!"

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