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Senator Feinstein sells out Americans AGAIN (Original Post) FreakinDJ Jun 2013 OP
pretty much backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #1
It's just so much bullshit. Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #6
Sad but true newfie11 Jun 2013 #29
Why is there no term limits on these critters? Catherina Jun 2013 #2
IOW, the same corrupt POS she's always been. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #3
+1 BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #7
One would think that someone that was an upper-middle-class housewife in 1978 and, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #9
Seriously BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #11
Nope, another politician that has blatantly traded her position for fabulous wealth at the expense Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #15
Sadly, this is where you and I part BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #18
Not sad at all. By the time I moved to CA my experience with Clinton had completely soured me Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #23
She's the queen of using liberal keywords to fundraise and then goes limp when it's time to do BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #24
When's her term up? tblue Jun 2013 #4
She'll be about 85 when her term expires in 2018. She won. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #10
At 79 year old, she was just re-elected. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #12
There's always hell BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #20
Sadly you are pointing out our problem. It shouldnt be up to her. She should have been replaced rhett o rick Jun 2013 #39
I was saddened to see her win re-election last year Left Coast2020 Jun 2013 #19
We didn't exactly have an alternative... dogknob Jun 2013 #26
Gee, going to love the reaction here when China sends Snowden back railsback Jun 2013 #5
Precisely. She has been through a lot of trauma due to the JDPriestly Jun 2013 #8
Rec this post BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #13
Right. This did not start under Obama. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #16
She likes to explain charts? Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #14
I have been wishing that adieu Jun 2013 #17
That would be replacing one DINO with another. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #30
Baby steps adieu Jun 2013 #32
Sure we can. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #35
Here's the thing adieu Jun 2013 #37
And none of that addresses the fact Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #41
Another option is adieu Jun 2013 #38
Maybe we should do like they do in sports? Left Coast2020 Jun 2013 #21
Yes, please! dogknob Jun 2013 #27
she is a throroughly corrupt piece of shit. perhaps the most corrupt in Congress cali Jun 2013 #22
I wonder how she'd like these numbers... im1013 Jun 2013 #25
She's Aunt Bee. kitt6 Jun 2013 #28
Enough with the ageism. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #31
To be fair... Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #34
More like Ma Barker. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #33
It pays well. That's why it's called "selling out". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #36
She's an authoritarian shitbag. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #40
 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
1. pretty much
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:33 AM
Jun 2013

this was called a few days ago that they would say we have been saved by giving up our rights

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
6. It's just so much bullshit.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:31 AM
Jun 2013

There is so much rampant corruption in our country today, that I can't see one reason to believe it wasn't condoned or even instigated by those who had the information.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. Why is there no term limits on these critters?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jun 2013

These permanent tenures are NOT what the Founding Fathers had in mind. And for good reason like war-profiteering.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
9. One would think that someone that was an upper-middle-class housewife in 1978 and,
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:45 AM
Jun 2013

while doing nothing but holding a series of public offices, accumulates a personal net worth in the $100M range, would be a sufficient clue.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
15. Nope, another politician that has blatantly traded her position for fabulous wealth at the expense
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:59 AM
Jun 2013

of her constituents. OTOH, they keep sending her back.

Senator Boxer is much, much better.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
18. Sadly, this is where you and I part
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:15 AM
Jun 2013

Boxer has played 'better than' for a long time. But she caves whenever the corporacrats tell her to. All our California senators suck.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
23. Not sad at all. By the time I moved to CA my experience with Clinton had completely soured me
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:28 AM
Jun 2013

on politics (To my everlasting shame, I was a very active supporter and fundraiser for him in 1992), so when I moved to LA I was just busy pursuing my career and paid little attention to any of them (except for Dick Riordan, but that's a whole other story).

So, my opinion of Senator Boxer is almost certainly uninformed, being filtered through the cesspool-colored filter of California politics.

I am absolutely open to learning more about her, but she always seemed to be relatively benign.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
24. She's the queen of using liberal keywords to fundraise and then goes limp when it's time to do
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:39 AM
Jun 2013

anything.

She made a big stink about the Stupak amendment and then folded like a deck of cards when the administration told her to STFU and vote for the ACA. All bluster.

There's lost of those. I know many on this board will disagree and cite her awesome liberal creds. But she hasn't done anything to impress in a long time other than the "Don't call me M'am" thing which I loved.

The SF Chronicle refused to endorse her against Fiorina, not because they wanted the Republican, but because Boxer has been little more than a seat warmer.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/No-endorsement-in-U-S-Senate-race-3172926.php

I remember having so much hope that California was represented by three strong women. But damn, they have been very disappointing. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to correct me.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
4. When's her term up?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:10 AM
Jun 2013

I've lost track. I voted for another Dem in her last primary. Next time, I should go volunteer for someone running to replace DiFi. I sure hope Boxer is on the right side of this issue.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
12. At 79 year old, she was just re-elected.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:52 AM
Jun 2013

She's untouchable, unfortunately. I would HOPE, that in 6 years, when she's 85 YEARS OLD, she'll consider retiring and letting some young blood in. I would think she would be happy with the bloody MILLIONS she's made off these immoral, illegal wars but that seems not to be the case.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
20. There's always hell
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:17 AM
Jun 2013

Pascal's wager and all that. I do assume from her face that despite gaining all that wealth at the price of her soul, she's a desperately unhappy person. Or at least I like to think so.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. Sadly you are pointing out our problem. It shouldnt be up to her. She should have been replaced
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jun 2013

years ago. But the Democratic Party would rather have a shoo in, than some one with principles running.

At these times I wish I believed in hell, because that's where I would hope she rots.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
19. I was saddened to see her win re-election last year
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:15 AM
Jun 2013

I wanted her out long ago when she supported the cowboy and his bullshit. What a disgrace she has been to this state.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
26. We didn't exactly have an alternative...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:51 AM
Jun 2013

We DID, however, manage to neutralize the influence of the GOP in the state legislature and, almost immediately, erase the deficit.

And guess what? None of the bzillionaires left! Where are they gonna go? Kansas?

Nope, they're trying to buy the LA Times so they can create a new scandal every day until they get back into power...

SO...

We have to KEEP THEM OUT. Eliminate the GOP as a factor in California politics...

Only then can we challenge sellouts like DiFi on the left and not fuck ourselves doing it.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
5. Gee, going to love the reaction here when China sends Snowden back
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:19 AM
Jun 2013

after he discovers all those files he downloaded from the FTP, which he thought were super classified files that would buy him sanctuary, turn out to be a bunch of photos of the last company picnic.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. Precisely. She has been through a lot of trauma due to the
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:34 AM
Jun 2013

shooting of her colleague on the Council in San Francisco and she reacts with panic at the thought of terrorism. She doesn't keep her balance on certain issues. Terrorism is a serious problem, but losing our rights on this kind of massive scale is far more serious.

They may claim that this program is not all that invasive, but it is setting the stage for very invasive access to all of our communications.

And they are killing off the Post Office and replacing its services with private company deliveries. The problem with that is that the government can only read our mail if it gets a real subpoena, but private companies can do what they want with what we entrust to them. It isn't that I would have any reason or even opportunity to send something that they would be interested in. But I who knows what might be against the law in the future? And who knows what could be placed in an envelope to you that you do not know about?

Privatization is really bad for human rights. Private companies are not restrained by the Bill of Rights. That's one of the reasons this program is being contracted out to the private sector.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
13. Rec this post
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:55 AM
Jun 2013

This whole thing is so much bigger than Obama. If the people would take the blinders off to see this is not a partisan issue. If we allow this continue, and I don't know how it can be stopped, there is no going back.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Right. This did not start under Obama.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:07 AM
Jun 2013

The national security bureaucracy has strengthened its stranglehold on Americans slowly but surely over many years.

It doesn't have that much to do with Obama.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. She likes to explain charts?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:56 AM
Jun 2013

Maybe she can explain this one:


[font size=1]Delayed-notice search warrants issued under the expanded powers of the Patriot Act, 2006–2009. [/font]

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
17. I have been wishing that
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:13 AM
Jun 2013

Nancy Pelosi take over for Dianne Feinstein, with Feinstein retiring to a small island somewhere in the south pacific. And then, a new person taking over for Nancy to represent San Francisco.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
30. That would be replacing one DINO with another.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:29 AM
Jun 2013

No thanks. We need someone like Debra Bowen to take over her seat. A REAL Democrat and one who will represent the people on not the MIC.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
37. Here's the thing
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:13 PM
Jun 2013

Pelosi is more liberal than Feinstein. She also has enough experience so that once she gets to the senate, she can start elbowing without much worry about being the "junior" senator. At the same time, we can get someone new, with fresh blood to take over Pelosi's seat in the House. Yes, we may lose the potential speakership spot if the House swings to the Democrats in 2014, but I think there would be a reasonable good replacement for her in that case.

Then, since Pelosi isn't such a young gun, she may either retire or die in the next 6 years or so, so she may have one, maybe two terms as senator. After she goes, we can push on with more liberal candidates. Both Boxer and Pelosi were born in 1940. Feinstein in 1933.

Remember, Boxer was a long-time congressperson as well before landing the senate seat.

I'm sort of plugged in to the SF politics and see some dynamic younger group, those born in the 70s and later, who can fill in once Pelosi and Feinstein leave office.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
21. Maybe we should do like they do in sports?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:22 AM
Jun 2013

Ask for a trade with say, uh, Massachusetts? I'll take your Elizabeth Warren, for Di-Fi, and a future Senator pick for 2018.

We could certainly use Warren to replace a relic like DI-Fi. Or trade her Puerto Rico? Guam?

Just thinking out loud here.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. she is a throroughly corrupt piece of shit. perhaps the most corrupt in Congress
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:28 AM
Jun 2013

March 30, 2007 |


SEN. Dianne Feinstein has resigned from the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee. As previously and extensively reviewed in these pages, Feinstein was chairperson and ranking member of MILCON for six years, during which time she had a conflict of interest due to her husband Richard C. Blum's ownership of two major defense contractors, who were awarded billions of dollars for military construction projects approved by Feinstein.

<snip>

http://www.alternet.org/story/49970/dianne_feinstein_resigns_committee_post_amid_scandal%3B_accused_of_war_profiteering

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
31. Enough with the ageism.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:32 AM
Jun 2013

Bernie Sanders seems to do just fine. It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with she sold her soul in order to be a billionaire. Fuck her.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
34. To be fair...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

(don't you just love that term, it like a red neon sign)

Her husband is the billionaire, She's only got $100,000,000 or so. Not bad on a civil servant's pay.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
40. She's an authoritarian shitbag.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:39 PM
Jun 2013

Not only does she betray us on the Fourth Amendment, she demanded video game censorship, SOPA/PIPA and other Internet censorship/DRM shit laws, she cheerled the Iraq War, she voted for and cosponsored the PATRIOT Act, she's been a long-term cheerleader of the War on Drugs, she supports the death penalty, she supported the Flag Desecration amendment to the Constitution, etc. etc. etc. fucking etc.

She needs to be tarred and feathered, and run out of the Democratic Party on a rail.

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