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would it bother you to find out Government employees (Original Post) backwoodsbob Jun 2013 OP
Yes, which doesn't mean that it would surprise me. PDJane Jun 2013 #1
it wouldn't surprise me at all backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #2
+1 Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #18
Would it bother you if they hired entire offices full of people in India and Pakistan to do this? reformist2 Jun 2013 #3
What bothers me more is the amount of winger FUDr and outright memes that get pushed into uponit7771 Jun 2013 #4
I assume it's already happening nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #5
Where is this happening? Why would government employees do this? There is no reason southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #6
No surprise. lpbk2713 Jun 2013 #7
It doesn't take too much imagination pscot Jun 2013 #8
i dont think its govt employees but I am certain that it happens xiamiam Jun 2013 #9
No. Wait Wut Jun 2013 #10
Yes, because that is not something that the (federal, at least) government is empowered to do. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #11
There are lots of paid posters alsame Jun 2013 #12
Sure ... Obama has a whole department of folks in the West Wing JoePhilly Jun 2013 #13
Yes, but it wouldn't surprise me. LWolf Jun 2013 #14
only if they didnt declare themselves. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #15
Well, with the Sequester, you should be seeing 10 - 25% less "disccussion direction". haele Jun 2013 #16
What about the right wing paid trolls Andy823 Jun 2013 #17
I keep hearing about these paid jobs. Downwinder Jun 2013 #19
Are private security contractors considered Government employees? SecularMotion Jun 2013 #20
I'm sure it happens Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #21

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
4. What bothers me more is the amount of winger FUDr and outright memes that get pushed into
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

...conversations as if it's impossible to recognize.

Even gov folk have to approach a position factually, FUDr folk don't even link and quote

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. I assume it's already happening
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jun 2013

And it is happening for corps too.

Like I assumed calls were monitored for decades.

That does not mean I approve of it...when you live in a modern form of inserted totalitarianism.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
6. Where is this happening? Why would government employees do this? There is no reason
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jun 2013

since government employees usually are there to help the customer.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
7. No surprise.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jun 2013



Military recruiters do it all the time in order to try to boost enlistment numbers.

And this is only one very small segment of the entire big picture.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
9. i dont think its govt employees but I am certain that it happens
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:54 PM
Jun 2013

we don't even get legitimate news from our msm which is controlled and owned by the same folks who are newsworthy. I try to figure out how they get paid, per word? per post? Who pays them? Think tanks, private contractors, probably partisan groups as well..who cares, its easy to spot after a while.. willful ignorance and encouraging others to stay uninformed and engage in gossip instead of issues.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
10. No.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:54 PM
Jun 2013

I can still think for myself.

One of these forum cowboys would do no more 'directing' than any one of us. It would just be another voice in the crowd.

 

Nimajneb Nilknarf

(319 posts)
11. Yes, because that is not something that the (federal, at least) government is empowered to do.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jun 2013

Besides being a waste of the peoples' money.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
13. Sure ... Obama has a whole department of folks in the West Wing
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jun 2013

who are paid to do just that.

At least that's what my Tea Party neighbor tells me.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
14. Yes, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jun 2013

I don't really think that they need to; they have plenty of stooges among the general population who gladly take on that role for them. They are easily observable right here, unless they are really being paid by the government.

haele

(12,649 posts)
16. Well, with the Sequester, you should be seeing 10 - 25% less "disccussion direction".
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jun 2013

Or certain days that are strangely empty of opinion. If it's all about the talking points, why come on and try to change opinion if you aren't being paid for it?
Actual government employees are pretty 9 to 5 about that sort of activity. It's the contractors that tend to be true believers or might come in and post on their "off time"...and most contractors aren't affected by Sequester. (Another reason to take a second look at profitizing - err, privatizing certain government functions...)

The best way to prove your premise is to watch the tone of discussion over the next three months.

Just a hint.

Haele

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
17. What about the right wing paid trolls
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jun 2013

Does that bother you? And lets not forget the tea party trolls, and the Rand Paul trolls. Those posters who are trying to suggest that anyone that doesn't agree with one side or the other are paid government employes seems a bit much to me, especially those who have been here since back in the early days.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
19. I keep hearing about these paid jobs.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:54 PM
Jun 2013

They must be tied to these work from home spams. I could sure use a little boost in my income. Not too much, wouldn't want to get in a taxable situation. I just don't know where to apply. Just as well, i might be like Snowden and talk about my work, "I was a troll for NSA."

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
20. Are private security contractors considered Government employees?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jun 2013
Online astroturfing gets sophisticated

When security consulting firm HBGary was brought to its knees by the crusading group of online activists known as Anonymous, it confirmed many peoples’ worst suspicions about how corporations manage their reputations online. Among the leaked documents were plans to “disrupt” the work of journalists supportive of Wikileaks (theoretically to support of Bank of America, the alleged target of a forthcoming leak), to create false documents for its clients to mislead the press, and to create malware designed to impact the operations of Julian Assange’s whistle-blowing organization.

Buried among these outwardly distasteful revelations was an email discussion of something called “persona management” software. A diarist at the Daily Kos has identified the most alarming passages:

Persona management entails not just the deconfliction of persona artifacts such as names, email addresses, landing pages, and associated content. It also requires providing the human actors technology that takes the decision process out of the loop when using a specific persona.

To accomplish this, the company says it can create custom thumb drives or virtual machines that provide and keep updated virtual personas. A single human actor could possess numerous in-depth false online identities, each with a complete and deep web of convincing online connections and activities, and use them to disrupt discussions online.

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/thinking-tech/online-astroturfing-gets-sophisticated/6349
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