Ex-Steubenville football player rapist may be transferred to country club institution.

[Sheldon Cooper]

Yeah, after serving barely 10% of his sentence, he may be transferred to a no-security setting. So fellas, you can go ahead and drug and rape a girl, and if you are so unlucky as to actually be convicted, no worries. You can do this kind of time standing on your head. Sounds about right in America.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/steubenville-teens-in-rape-case-may-transfer-to-rehabilitation-center-691639/

A Steubenville High School football player convicted of raping a West Virginia teenager last summer will be classified as a sex offender at a hearing today that could also decide if he will be transferred to another facility for treatment.

The court has said it intends to approve, for both teens, a transfer from a state juvenile detention center to Lifehouse Youth Center at Paint Creek, a facility in Bainbridge, Ohio, which Judge Lipps suggested at their dispositional hearing.

Before the move, Trent must be classified into one of three sex-offender categories. The court could decide he must register every three months for life; or it could place him in two other levels, in which he registers every six months for 20 years; or, the least severe category, every year for a decade.

The private residential rehabilitation center for boys near Chillicothe has no bars, high fences or locked doors, and a 24-hour staff calls teenagers "clients" not "inmates," said Renee Hagan, the center's juvenile justice director.

"We don't have this correctional-mentality relationship with kids," she said.

[ohiosmith]

1. Have you no compassion?

[NYC_SKP]

2. It's the "Lighthouse Youth Center at Paint Creek", and it is a country club, private bedrooms, more.

Formerly a sports and activity center, it's full service.

http://www.lys.org/lycpc_about.html

[richmwill]

3. Candy Crowley must be pleased...

I won't forget her sadness when these rapists were convicted.

[TacoD]

5. Don't forget Poppy harlow.

[redqueen]

4. Sick.

But that's rape culture for you.

[Comrade Grumpy]

6. I think I'll let the judge handle it, rather than DU's punisher posse.

[LanternWaste]

11. I don't think any DUer has the opportunity to "handle it", merely to comment on it

I don't think any DUer has the opportunity to "handle it", merely to comment on it-- comments lacking any legal repercussions or consequences.

[DevonRex]

7. I wish all juvenile offenders were treated like this.

Instead of the way they're treated now, like slaves at some work house. This place actually tries to change the mindset of a person who has accepted criminal behavior as the norm. That's a good thing. And it gives them hope instead of a bleak future to look forward to

So, if I put aside my anger at these 2, I like the program. It's just that I can't hell but feel that they got in it because one of the boys has a mom who is a DA. And one criterion for admission is that the crime can't have stirred up a lot of local news attention. Um, not only local but national.

[alp227]

10. Even rapists? N/t

[DevonRex]

12. As I said...

It was more difficult to think about when I added these guys to the mix. Because of what they did and how the community treated them.

One thing I do know. My rapist went on to rape other young girls. He started as a teenager. This facility says it specializes in that crime. Maybe they can stop them from doing it again. Another thing I know is that they will get out of wherever they are eventually. I'd certainly rather they have someone address the actual crime they committed.

So, even though a small part of me would like to tear rapists limb from limb, if they're juveniles maybe a place that can teach them a better way to see things is the right way to go.

[Ms. Toad]

17. From the site admission criteria:

"Has not been involved in a heinous crime with significant local publicity"

Guess it wasn't heinous.

[DevonRex]

19. Yeah and didn't get publicity.

The Facebook stuff and national news I would think really would take them off the list for this place. But I do wish young convicted rapists would get the kind of directed treatment they offer. I don't know if it works. But at least they try.

[Ms. Toad]

23. It is "and", so

to meet the admission criteria, either it didn't get local publicity or it wasn't a heinous crime. Since we know it did get local publicity, that must mean it wasn't considered a heinous crime.

[DevonRex]

24. Fucked up, isn't it?

All I can say is this program had better work.

[The Straight Story]

8. Outside of the short length of their sentences - what conditions do you want them to have in jail?

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Folks talk about how barbaric our jails are compared to Europe - Anders Behring Breivik's jail ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20270325 )is quite plush and he is a mass murderer . We discuss how more humane jails would help prevent future crimes, etc.

What conditions do you want them in, how do you want them to suffer there (no tv, bad food, being called names, etc)?

[Downwinder]

9. Are they still threatening Deric Lostutter with ten years

for his efforts to bring it to light.

[radicalliberal]

26. Yes, they are. (I wonder if "they" are sports fans.)

I've seen a picture of Lostutter. He's a scrawny guy who's ill-equipped to defend himself from big thugs who have a tendency to rape fellow inmates. I have no doubt he will be forcefully sodomized against his will all the years he's in prison -- all because he tried to help a persecuted victim of rape. But no one cares.

Meanwhile, the two pampered rapists are back playing football. Isn't that wonderful? Now Candy Crowley, Poppy Harlow, and all the sports fans are happy. Of course, the victim, who received death threats from fans, will have to live with these memories for the rest of her life. But all of this really doesn't matter because sports are more important than anything else (such as justice, victims' rights, etc.). Ain't it wonderful?

[LittleBlue]

13. They may want to use his cell for someone too violent

to go to the country club. My guess is he's a low risk for escape and violence.

[Sheldon Cooper]

14. You don't consider his drugging and raping a young girl to be 'violent'?

[LittleBlue]

15. Your words, not mine

I said he may not pose a risk for violence or escape.

Prisoners often get transferred or paroled when there is overcrowding and the cell is needed for someone who poses a risk to guards/inmates.

[Sheldon Cooper]

16. I think someone that has been convicted of drugging and raping is too violent for a country club.

And as far as 'your words, not mine', what does that mean? Do you doubt that he drugged and raped the girl?

[LittleBlue]

18. The judge doesn't

Besides, how do you know that his cell isn't being used for a murderer or someone equally fucked up?

Do you doubt that he drugged and raped the girl?

No. Do you? Why are you casting doubt on it?

[Sheldon Cooper]

20. Explain your sentence 'your words, not mine'.

This is how you responded when I said he drugged and raped the girl. I don't think I'm the one casting any doubt. Unless you clarify your comment, I don't see what else you could have meant.

[LittleBlue]

21. "Your words, not mine"=

"You don't consider his drugging and raping a young girl to be 'violent'?"

I didn't say that, you did.

[Sheldon Cooper]

22. Okay. But that comment was in response to your comment:

My guess is he's a low risk for escape and violence.

I don't see how you can view him as low risk for violence, when he's demonstrated quite clearly that he's already committed a violent crime and had no qualms about it.

But, it's not worth debating anymore. Have the last word.

[redqueen]

25. Some encouraging news...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=23221