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Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:46 PM

Will China Offer Snowden Freedom in Exchange for Information?

Edward Snowden’s revelations keep coming. On Friday, the South China Morning Post reported that the former National Security Agency contractor shared details on the IP addresses of the computers in Hong Kong and China that the NSA had hacked over the last four years. The detailed data also reveals “whether an attack on a computer was ongoing or had been completed, along with an amount of additional operational information,” reports the Hong Kong daily. Snowden insisted that he felt comfortable sharing this information because the targets were civilian computers. "I don't know what specific information they were looking for on these machines, only that using technical exploits to gain unauthorized access to civilian machines is a violation of law. It's ethically dubious," Snowden said.

Snowden’s justification seems either naďve or purposefully misleading. As the New York Times points out, the line between the civilian sector and the government is hardly clear-cut in China. While some legal analysts say Snowden may be “digging his own grave,” as one put it, others contend that the leaks could encourage Beijing to prevent the former contractor’s extradition if he agrees to share what he knows. At the very least, the revelations to the Hong Kong paper seem to demonstrate he has plenty of information that Beijing might find interesting. So far though it isn’t clear whether Beijing will get involved, according to a South China Morning Post source. There’s much officials could learn from Snowden. Former CIA chief of staff Jeremy Bash tells ABC News that “if a foreign government learned everything that was in Edward Snowden's brain, they would have a good window into the way we collect signals intelligence.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/06/14/edward_snowden_reveals_details_of_hong_kong_and_china_nsa_hacking.html

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Reply Will China Offer Snowden Freedom in Exchange for Information? (Original post)
arely staircase Jun 2013 OP
Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #1
HangOnKids Jun 2013 #8
marions ghost Jun 2013 #12
darkangel218 Jun 2013 #2
arely staircase Jun 2013 #3
darkangel218 Jun 2013 #4
arely staircase Jun 2013 #9
darkangel218 Jun 2013 #11
Whisp Jun 2013 #5
Aerows Jun 2013 #6
arely staircase Jun 2013 #10
randome Jun 2013 #7
UTUSN Jun 2013 #13
JackN415 Jun 2013 #14
marions ghost Jun 2013 #15
JackN415 Jun 2013 #16
marions ghost Jun 2013 #17
JackN415 Jun 2013 #18

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:51 PM

1. Hong Kong Eddie turned out to be a Chinese espionage agent with a fake resume.

 

You can be sure he's going to give the Chinese all the information they want in exchange for freedom.

So in essence, Snowden turned out to be a prostitute. Instead of exchanging money for sex, he's exchanging US secrets to the Chinese in return for freedom.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:07 PM

8. The Break Up Between You and Hong Kong Eddie Must Have Been Brutal

 

I haven't seen this much angst and vitriol since the 10th grade. I hope you find peace soon.

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:19 PM

12. LOL

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:56 PM

2. He will never rat out to China.

 

He left everything and eveyone he has on this planet for the sake of the American people and our Constitutional rights. He will not voluntarily give up any info to China or any other foreign country.

What I'm afraid of is him being abducted/arrested and tortured and forced to give up whatever classified data he may possess.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:58 PM

3. he has already fed them some info

so it sounds like he has decided it is time to come to an agreement with Chinese security forces.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:01 PM

4. Do you have any proof of that??

 

Except the Chinese gov saying "he may have useful info" for them?

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:07 PM

9. it is in the OP in bold letters, first paragraph

nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:14 PM

11. Damn..

 

I was so fast in defending Snowden, didn't even read your OP carefully.

WTF????!?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:02 PM

5. oh, but he's just a baby rat! and they are so cute.

 

Actually I think he was suckered in by someone that knew he was gullible and suckerable. I feel sorry for the guy, actually, but he did big wrong and will not be able to get out of this. But someone is getting what they want. Not him tho.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:03 PM

6. Better question

 

Will the NSA clean house after this debacle and failure to prevent the Boston bombings? Because what we've found out leads me to believe that the upper management and some of these people they are contracting out to don't know the difference between shit and Shinola, and we are expected to trust them with the American people's private data? And fund massive contracts to people that are clearly unable to meet the responsibility of their job requirement?

That Clapper guy that lied to Congress and is a Bush holdover needs to be the first one to be directed to the unemployment line.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:08 PM

10. I hope so.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:07 PM

7. No. I doubt he has anything worth it, despite what the politicans say in front of the cameras.

 

He still stole documents and is giving some info to the Chinese.

If we can believe their reporting.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:44 PM

13. Does China have "freedom" to spare?!1 Granted, they've got a byte of capitalism/materialism. n/t

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:46 PM

14. China offers freedom is an oxymoron expression n/t

 

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:53 PM

15. Some Chinese appreciate Snowden's point...



Slate.com:
Protesters shout slogans in support of Edward Snowden as they march to the U.S. consulate in Hong Kong on June 13

Photo by PHILIPPE LOPEZ/AFP/Getty Images

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:25 PM

16. US violates human rights. That's why these HKers don't want...

 

to live in the US. Give them green cards and they would spit on them or burn them...

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Response to JackN415 (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:15 PM

17. The US picks and chooses what human rights to uphold

and which to violate. If I understand you correctly.

No I don't think they want to live in the US.

And your point about that is....? Maybe you could clarify.

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:51 PM

18. It is sarcasm. The whole world wants US green card to come here...

 

and live. Many want to pursue the American dream (not so attractive any more as the US wealth relative to world has eroded substantially), and others like terrorists want green card for a different purpose.

Many years ago, before 1997 (the year Hong Kong was returned to China after the lease expired), HKers would kill for a chance to immigrate to the US. Many migrated to Canada.

Now, fewer would want it as the standard of living in HK is quite high. But if the US open its door, many would beat a path to come.

So.. my post was with sarcasm.

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