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NRaleighLiberal

(61,857 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:38 PM Jun 2013

How to make it all go away.....

I've been immersed - filthy dirty, covered in sweat, tending a too-big garden. when showered and not dirty, immersed in writing my tomato book....or watching the Bruins. Or walking my dogs with my wife.....or...or....

Sure, I know who Snowden is....vaguely, it is somewhere in the haze that's been the past few months. Obama - oh yes, our president. The broken congress? yes indeedy...still broken, I suspect.

I am checking in here briefly....very very briefly....5 min or so per day, sometimes not at all. No TV in months (aside from sports and some netflix movies).

Sure, go ahead - chastise me! I am letting my guard down...by immersing myself in life. It feels good - it feels worthwhile, and very satisfying. I am sure that phone calls, emails, posts, you name it - pictures of my bumper sticker festooned (love that word...gramps McCain used it in a debate!) truck - are recorded for posterity somewhere "upstairs". Do I care?

Anyway, just a quick hello. I know heavy duty shit is going down....and it is serious and upsetting.

And at the moment, I can't say I care very much. I've made it go away - I am sure I will be back to reality (or is the garden/book/family stuff reality? to me, it is!).

So this is just a PSA - if it gets too much, too depressing, too...too.....just too. You too can make it all go away - and it will all be right back in place if/when we all choose to return to the mess that is around us!

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How to make it all go away..... (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 OP
Absolutely awesome advice! randome Jun 2013 #1
Every now and then I have to take a break myself. LeftofObama Jun 2013 #2
This is the height of 'mater season around here. Priorities. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #3
Can't wait for the book... SidDithers Jun 2013 #4
You know a good way to keep these bastards off my tomato plants? snooper2 Jun 2013 #5
gently saute in olive oil and garlic NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #7
I throw mine into the neighbor's garden. femmocrat Jun 2013 #15
I throw them in the pond for the fish to eat. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #51
IIRC, they glow under black light. You can find them very easily that way. An offbeat thing Nay Jun 2013 #20
Plant marigolds Andy823 Jun 2013 #26
Now I'm dying for a tomato sandwich. OneGrassRoot Jun 2013 #6
Oh yahhh. Stryder Jun 2013 #32
Yah,yah I know Stryder Jun 2013 #33
Way too many people here are addicted to rage. Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #8
I wonder how many people I have slept with Politicalboi Jun 2013 #11
Nothing better than a BLT using fresh heirlooms! zappaman Jun 2013 #9
But ... but ... how will you ever know ... lpbk2713 Jun 2013 #10
The NSA didn't go away and we're arming Syrians Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #12
Wow. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #13
I did and made up my mind to go out and play tomorrow. I miss Jersey Tomatoes..The best.. monmouth3 Jun 2013 #14
I can't get interested in these "scandals" either, NRL. It's summertime! femmocrat Jun 2013 #16
Gotta love this year's Stanley Cup Series! Myrina Jun 2013 #17
Concur, do it myself often, good medicine, good advice! K&R Rebellious Republican Jun 2013 #18
Absolutely awesome. timdog44 Jun 2013 #19
Gardening keeps me healthy and fit... malokvale77 Jun 2013 #21
Are those your tomatoes? MAN! Gorgeous! Recommend ACIDIC music for weed-pulling! calimary Jun 2013 #22
My garden is pathetic this year quakerboy Jun 2013 #23
Try a mixture timdog44 Jun 2013 #31
I will give it a try quakerboy Jun 2013 #45
Also.. any ideas on Onions and Carrots? quakerboy Jun 2013 #46
I've never had any timdog44 Jun 2013 #50
I made my comment about onions and carrots timdog44 Jun 2013 #53
I sure hope and believe you're a seed saver tech3149 Jun 2013 #24
Not only is he a seed saver.... Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #29
. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #44
you've got DU mail! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #43
Boston native, GO BRUINS! DrewFlorida Jun 2013 #25
Pawtucket, RI native here...go Bruins (and Red Sox, and Celtics, and Pats) indeed! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #42
Like box checked! DrewFlorida Jun 2013 #47
Oh Lord, wouldn't that be nice? To make all of this just GO AWAY Number23 Jun 2013 #27
I love the vegetable garden Andy823 Jun 2013 #28
General tomato book with a personal flavor... NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #41
I couldn't agree more. Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #30
Too much rain here! BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #34
Fantastic advice Hekate Jun 2013 #35
Buried in Netflix..but not as out of touch as you who have the plants...Your Work KoKo Jun 2013 #36
I hear you. Stryder Jun 2013 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jun 2013 #38
Yeah, yeah, it all goes away... hunter Jun 2013 #39
"I welcome their hatred" NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #40
I am getting away via reading... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #48
LET'S GO BRUINS!! :) Amonester Jun 2013 #49
Hurrah for tomatoes! nt MADem Jun 2013 #52
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. Absolutely awesome advice!
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jun 2013


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LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
2. Every now and then I have to take a break myself.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jun 2013

It just gets to be somewhat overwhelming at times, doesn't it?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. This is the height of 'mater season around here. Priorities.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013

I got a first time ever volunteer roque itinerant feral tomato plant that sprung up on the top of the levee where I usually park the car.

It's looking GREAT!

NRaleighLiberal

(61,857 posts)
7. gently saute in olive oil and garlic
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013


Either spray with BT, or just look for the poop balls, look up, hand pick throw in the air as high as you can and watch them pop. they are also good thrown on the roof on a hot day for the sizzle effect.

If they have white egg cases along their backs leave them - wasps hatch and eat the wormies from the inside.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
20. IIRC, they glow under black light. You can find them very easily that way. An offbeat thing
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jun 2013

to try is to see if your dog (if you have one) can be taught to spot them. A long time ago, someone told me they trained their dog to find and eat/seize the little bastards.

Andy823

(11,555 posts)
26. Plant marigolds
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jun 2013

My grandmother told me this many years ago, and I have followed her advice since and they really do repel these guys, along with other bad insects. I have dozens of them planted my raised vegetable beds, as well as in my wife's glower gardens, and they look great as well.

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
6. Now I'm dying for a tomato sandwich.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013

Looking forward to the first good tomato of the summer soon.

Enjoy your life, NRL.



Stryder

(450 posts)
32. Oh yahhh.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jun 2013

My beefsteaks got a rough start. But they're kickin now.
3/4" slice, paper thin onions(plenty of em), Brown mustard & mayo on a very lightly toasted slab of Italian bread.
Unfortunately there only just now flowering.(Northern Ohio)
Thanks for the anticipation though. I guess I could always run up to the local processed food like substance station and pick up some genetically altered for durability and shelf life red rubber balls.
Yummmm.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
8. Way too many people here are addicted to rage.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013

We've even got one well known poster who believes the government is watching her through her TV.

Get out and take a walk. Get some fresh air, folks. Live your life for a little while away from the computer.

Also, your tomatoes look fucking awesome.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
11. I wonder how many people I have slept with
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jun 2013

While my TV was on while I was sleeping.

I did back in the 90's talk about being watched through ones TV. I also predicted movies on a disc as small as a quarter, and you put in your TV like a vending machine. So close but yet so far.

lpbk2713

(43,273 posts)
10. But ... but ... how will you ever know ...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jun 2013



what Zimmy had for breakfast?



It's good to know you have a life.

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
12. The NSA didn't go away and we're arming Syrians
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jun 2013

And if you need medical attention it is still for-profit. If you ever use money it's still ruled by criminal banks and if some Monsanto seeds fly into your garden, they can sue you for patent infringement and win!

Nothing goes away by ignoring it, that's why it's call denial.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
16. I can't get interested in these "scandals" either, NRL. It's summertime!
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:29 PM
Jun 2013

I just blocked NSA and Snowden and find DU much more readable.

We are having such a cool, rainy June that I am not getting much done outside. The weeds are out of control!

I love reading about your garden.... don't get too busy to post an update now and then, OK?

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
17. Gotta love this year's Stanley Cup Series!
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jun 2013

I'm a Blackhawks fan but would hold no ill will if the Bruins win ... this thing is fantastic!!

Torey Krug played his Jr. hockey here in Indy so I have a little vested interest in seeing him do well, too.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
18. Concur, do it myself often, good medicine, good advice! K&R
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:22 PM
Jun 2013

I take extended breaks from all politics and media, for my sanity. It feels good and gives fresh perspective. I have been hanging around DU for a few days, 3650 approximately give or take a couple. I have seen many come and go, they get burnt out and to depressed because they do not stop to smell the tomato's.

Off topic, I love garden fresh tomato's, yum!!!!!

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
19. Absolutely awesome.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jun 2013

Nothing better than being sweaty and dirty, in a garden, brushing against the herbs and smelling the lovely fragrances wafting over you. I too have a too big garden and sadly am having to sell my place. Age and a bad back prevent me from doing justice to the place any more. Hoping to move to an 80,000 sq ft place instead of 800,000 sq ft.

"garden/book/family" is reality. And too bad not reality for a lot of others who seem to be out of joint all the time.

I think I asked you before, be sure to announce when you book comes out. I recall you said something like 2015. I would like to be first in line. Love the pictures of you tomatoes. Especially the cherokee black. Absolutely the best I have ever eaten.

No chastisement from this quarter. You are living the life. I'll bet it does feel good. Love getting done with my chores and sitting down and admiring my little garden of eden. And yes I am bragging. And if somehow a glass of wine ends up in my hands, so much the better and especially if there is a plate of Humboldt Fog cheese.

Nothing but good on you from me.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
21. Gardening keeps me healthy and fit...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jun 2013

I get on DU when I come in to cool off (I'm in Texas). Then I really get hot and go back to my garden to cool off. Go figure.
Happy gardening!

calimary

(90,021 posts)
22. Are those your tomatoes? MAN! Gorgeous! Recommend ACIDIC music for weed-pulling!
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jun 2013

AWESOME, vigorous, catchy rock 'n' roll to get your energy up! And if you want to turn up the volume, there are no swear words to offend the neighbors!

www.facebook.com/acidicband - and go to BandPage to hear tunes!

quakerboy

(14,868 posts)
23. My garden is pathetic this year
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jun 2013

We took and old dresser, converted it to a minigreenhouse and started a bunch of stuff from seed instead of just buying plants

The plants came up in just a week, and looked beautiful for several weeks. Then they just... stopped. They didnt get bigger, but they didnt die or shrink. After a while, i figured move em outside, maybe that will change something. Same thing, a month later. Same size. Not dead. Little leaves are still green, not dried out or anything. But still only like 2 inches tall.

So I have a bunch of mini tomato plants that show no signs of growing. A few plants have come up from seeds dropped last year, they are doing fine. But none of the ones I spent so much effort trying to grow.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
31. Try a mixture
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jun 2013

of epsom salts. Yes, epsom salts. I think a tablespoon to a gallon. But I would google that to be sure.

I do my houseplants all the time with epsom salts and they are doing great. AM not having any problems with outdoor stuff this year. It has been our turn (nothern Illinois) to have had a great growing season so far. Farmers are complaining, but what is new.

Here is a site that talks about it. http://gardening.about.com/od/organicgardenin1/f/Epsom_Salts.htm

quakerboy

(14,868 posts)
45. I will give it a try
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:02 PM
Jun 2013

It certainly cant make it any worse. The only thing growing is the zucchini, which is going nuts, exactly like last year.

quakerboy

(14,868 posts)
46. Also.. any ideas on Onions and Carrots?
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:04 PM
Jun 2013

I planted a bunch of seeds for both, and there is no sign either have done anything. Not a leaf or hint of green to be seen in that section.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
50. I've never had any
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:19 AM
Jun 2013

luck with onion seeds either. I always use sets. And the trick to those, so they don't get too hot is water them like crazy.

Carrots. I always dig the area I put the seeds about 12 inches deep. Smooth it all out, carefully lay a few short rows of seeds and then use potting soil to cover them. Not too deep. Pat that down and usually water them a couple times a day until they start to show. Always have to thin them out because I can never space them little suckers far enough apart, the seeds are so small. When winter comes around I mulch them with about a 10-12" layer of straw. Then when I want some, roll back some mulch and there they are. Cover em back up until I need some again.

Interesting that I did not use them all up one year. Carrots are actually a biennial. If they get to the following year, they come up again and go to seed. Looks just like Queen Ann's lace, which there are a cultivar of. Good luck.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
53. I made my comment about onions and carrots
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jun 2013

not knowing exactly what growing zone you are in. I am in zone 5 trending to zone 6 what with global warming.

But as far as planting seeds, I always like to top off the seeds with potting soil because it is a different color than the soil, and it ads a little fertilizer to the mix. I do the same when I start my herbs. I have those green laminated rings that people use by attaching posts to them and use them as a plant support system. What I do with the rings is put them on the ground, scatter those little herb seeds inside the perimeter of the ring and then top the whole thing with a shallow cover of potting soil again. I use tent stakes to hold them in place and know exactly where to water because the soil is a different color. When they get to be a couple inches tall, just remove the rings and it makes a perfect size herb cluster.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
24. I sure hope and believe you're a seed saver
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jun 2013

When my old man turned 85 he couldn't keep up the garden so we put grass back where the garden was. The compromise was to plant a small row along the fence line. The soil is rich and healthy and better than a foot deep. The total area was about 20 sq/yd and we had great tomatoes all summer and usually canned better than 30 qt for the winter. The last few years have been tough. Half the fruit was affected by some fungus or black rot. This year the only thing I have growing are a few herbs, onions, and garlic. I was just turning the soil and weeding today and the soil is so rich and dark that I have to plant something.

Back to the intent of your post, I had lived most of my adult life in rentals or townhouses where you couldn't do anything with the ground or exterior of the property. I grew up with all forms of food being grown in the backyard and in every neighbors home. Back then even field corn was a choice target for a bunch of roving teenagers.
There is no feeling better than sex as to get your hand dirty and grow tour own food or be really connected to where it comes from. Beyond getting you away from the clatter of the infotainment world it really does give you a chance to focus on what really matters. I'm no biologist or neurological specialist but there is definitely a positive effect on your attitude and emotional balance from getting your hands down in the dirt and helping something else to live.

If you are a seed saver could I possibly glom a few from you? Most of the commercial heritage seed sellers just rape people for what should be if not free at least cheap.
BTW, your tomatoes look soo good that every post I read gets my mouth watering.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
29. Not only is he a seed saver....
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jun 2013

he is THE seed saver. NRL has actually developed tomato varieties, has resurrected many heirlooms, and is an expert in tomatoes. Come visit the gardening group here on DU sometime, especially if you need advice on tomatoes. He LIVES tomatoes.

He also has a seed saving/sharing thread pinned in the gardening group. And check out his "garden":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11593505

And he has a blog:

http://nctomatoman.weebly.com/1/post/2013/05/what-im-growing-in-2013-part-1-indeterminate-tomatoes-main-garden-and-driveway-large-container.html

Seriously, NRL is a serious gardener and tomato expert.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
27. Oh Lord, wouldn't that be nice? To make all of this just GO AWAY
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jun 2013

DU is too much at the best of times but it's times like this that make me wonder about the health of many of the most err... PROLIFIC posters here. Particularly in GD.

Andy823

(11,555 posts)
28. I love the vegetable garden
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jun 2013

I spend a lot of time in my vegetable garden, and my wife spends her spare time in her glower gardens. It's a great way to unwind, and it has helped both of us cope with the everyday problems in life. I now have 5 raised vegetable beds, much easier than the old days bending over to weed and harvest. My wife has flower beds all over the place around the house. She is not able to spend as much time in them this year because her mother is not doing to well and we take care of her, but she still finds some time and it has really helped her cope with things.

I plant heirloom tomatoes, far better flavor than they hybrids as far as I am concerned. I have ten plants this year and they are growing like weeds! Strawberries are just about done, we put up several batches of jam, and the raspberries are coming on. Looks like a good crop, and the blueberries are looking pretty good also.

What kind of tomato book are you writing?



NRaleighLiberal

(61,857 posts)
41. General tomato book with a personal flavor...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:21 PM
Jun 2013

Covering varieties, history, culture from seed starting through to harvest, some recipes, featuring 25 specific varieties responsible for my tomato hobby addiction....publish date Dec 2014, Storey.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
30. I couldn't agree more.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jun 2013

I do know more about what is in the news and on DU than you indicate that you know, but it isn't always a good thing. I often step back from the serious and controversial issues for my sanity. Most of these things are beyond our control, so obsessing on them instead of living our lives as best we can is counterproductive.

Good for you for making it all go away. Just don't get too apathetic.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
34. Too much rain here!
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jun 2013

For any ground-planters, it will probably be a challenge but nothing better than picking that first ripe one.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
36. Buried in Netflix..but not as out of touch as you who have the plants...Your Work
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jun 2013

but we have a few...and flowers and with this weather ..it's been "interesting."

The Basil is Thriving and that House Going Up across from is a "Site to Behold." The noise..the loss of habitat for our birds and such...and every day it will be NOISE thru the Summer...and neighbor's house is on Market next door...so much Power Washing and Restructuring NOISE going on there...and we have to ReDo our Roof and found that we have "Grey Pipe" and have to RotoRoot our whole House along with Roof...and the Storms come and go...and there were twigs and branches...and it goes on an on.

We are Lucky...we Ain't CA, Colorado or Oklahoma...yet. Remember the last time we went through "Blown Away....Blown Away"...Oklahoma Blown Away........Sometime in that Great Depression that's been receded into memory.

Whatever... WE CARRY ON... "All Creatures Great and Small" and a little "Early Inspector Poirot" and some old VHS STUFF Faves we Saved......and we deal with it...except for when I "Mouth Off" on DU with Indignation..But the Partner deals with his own stuff... Still we work through it and LOVE & TOGETHER after ALL THESE YEARS.....ALWAYS WINS... Just doing a "CODE POST" to you.

And yes...always love your Tomatoes!

and

Stryder

(450 posts)
37. I hear you.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 08:46 PM
Jun 2013

Actually I got lucky on the NSA story. Spent 6/5 through 6/10 at a music fest on 45 acres of wooded bliss with some very interesting people. The only digital info I accepted was the occasional radar update.
Came home spent but rejuvenated if you know the feeling.
Of course the crap doesn't go away. But if you decompress every now and then, neither does your mind.

Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

hunter

(40,691 posts)
39. Yeah, yeah, it all goes away...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jun 2013

... and the next thing you know the NSA is putting bugs in your garden.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
48. I am getting away via reading...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:59 PM
Jun 2013

I am probably the only D&D geek who didn't read Tolkein. I just finishe The Hobbit, and have started the LOTR trilogy.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
49. LET'S GO BRUINS!! :)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 12:13 AM
Jun 2013

And that said from a (moderate) CH fan is a rarity...

But ye gotta admit the BERGERON+PAILLE shining-star duo is quite awesome!!

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