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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:42 PM Jun 2013

So... how did YOU become a racist?

I think it's time for some personal stories. Cautionary tales.

In my case, I read the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution, and am told that I immediately flew into a rage against African-Americans.

How about you?

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So... how did YOU become a racist? (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 OP
I learned mine from my Hispanic grandfather Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #1
Or possibly bread to be a loaf pscot Jun 2013 #6
I was thinking more of a biscuit. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #39
Dirty Frenchman. nt DRoseDARs Jun 2013 #70
Can I steal that Romney sign? ctsnowman Jun 2013 #238
Are you possibly a Saltine-American?? Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2013 #92
I hope not. They're crackers! merrily Jun 2013 #96
I stole that term from a FARK comments thread. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2013 #97
Who could blame you? merrily Jun 2013 #100
DUzy! n/t eridani Jun 2013 #112
Biscuit or cracker? nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #210
Cracker, please! Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #217
That's what I figured... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #338
Posting while baked? Well, if that doesn't take the cake! merrily Jun 2013 #95
The crust of some people, a crumby thing to do. marble falls Jun 2013 #190
Any way you slice it, kurtzapril4 Jun 2013 #261
That's because it is only half-baked Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #288
Only because it kneads to be. kurtzapril4 Jun 2013 #353
Better to be bread a loaf, chervilant Jun 2013 #278
FAIL Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #2
"Epic Fail" is my middle name (nm) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #14
. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #19
I am more of a carla Jun 2013 #215
LOL, you appear defensive! Hit a nerve? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #36
Huh? Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #38
How's that? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #71
It's the latest desperate attempt to distract from the fact that there is a massive surveillance sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #77
good grief Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #113
Wow. You sure told Manny Goldstein. merrily Jun 2013 #81
Lol! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #104
Did you just join Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #114
I'm trying to join the team East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #276
LMAO L0oniX Jun 2013 #178
you are aptly describing your own response Skittles Jun 2013 #106
Accusing anyone of racism simply because they disagree with president is "Fail of the epic variety" idwiyo Jun 2013 #128
Simplistic, tone deaf interpretation Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #145
You are getting better and better with your descriptions of those who can't stand the very idea of idwiyo Jun 2013 #149
Projection. 'swats' or 'swarms' or 'what is on deck for next week'. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #232
LOL! Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #246
Didn't think so, and I kept it short too, just for you! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #289
would you like ranch, bleu cheese, or a lovely vinagrette with that word salad? frylock Jun 2013 #243
I just asked your teammate the Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #248
well let's hope they get on board, tout de suite! frylock Jun 2013 #251
Projection!!11! Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #257
you're outta your league here.. frylock Jun 2013 #260
I'm a social worker Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #266
thanks for schooling me on how teh interwebs works.. frylock Jun 2013 #277
Okay Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #284
Girl, that was no swarm that was a Flock of Foolishness Number23 Jun 2013 #294
Social workers have the lowest sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #304
OMG ucrdem Jun 2013 #305
Do I get a trophy? sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #321
Thanks professor Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #307
Why bother? Just Saying Jun 2013 #312
Manny and the professor ucrdem Jun 2013 #313
A lot of Recs on this post! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #319
Yes, sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #320
320 replies in this asinine thread Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #322
322 actually. sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #324
I could not agree more!! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #216
For me it was looking at children mutilated and slaughtered by drone strikes... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #3
So you hate our freedoms, as well as hating African-Americans MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #22
So I have been told. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #42
Yes, you're obviously a racist. kurtzapril4 Jun 2013 #262
By other people's standards, that is when I became one, too. loudsue Jun 2013 #280
Only speaking for our dog. He noticed that some folk don't look like me and my wife. onehandle Jun 2013 #4
Apparently, for me, TDale313 Jun 2013 #5
LMAO! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #179
I believed a 1960s Utopian dream... Recursion Jun 2013 #7
+10000000000 pkdu Jun 2013 #11
Great post. nt raccoon Jun 2013 #117
Good post!!! xoom Jun 2013 #130
Living your beliefs is the hard work. Zorra Jun 2013 #236
X1000 bvar22 Jun 2013 #264
Being around folks that mangaled the English lang HipChick Jun 2013 #8
That's gotta rally suck. (Nm) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #17
Can't we all just get a log? DRoseDARs Jun 2013 #75
No. We're members of a splinter group. marble falls Jun 2013 #191
And now they want us to leaf. kurtzapril4 Jun 2013 #354
I think your barque is worse than your bight. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #213
There'll be a board of inquiry. marble falls Jun 2013 #356
It is pretty mangaled... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #212
DUzed! unblock Jun 2013 #186
I admit it, I've always been a closet racist. progressoid Jun 2013 #9
Spoke out for LGBT equality. Prism Jun 2013 #10
That's rough. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #13
I became self-aware. Prism Jun 2013 #23
lol. TDale313 Jun 2013 #25
LOL :) nt Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #41
LOL! reusrename Jun 2013 #119
Duzy! Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2013 #209
I thought the people who crashed the world economy should QC Jun 2013 #12
Didn't your parents raise you better than that? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #16
Mama tried to raise me better, but her pleading I denied. n/t QC Jun 2013 #20
Go TARP yourself. merrily Jun 2013 #79
I dared to disagree with the President's education agenda. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #15
. QC Jun 2013 #18
I think it was when I was born, like the President, the child of one white parent... The Link Jun 2013 #21
Did you become racist against your white parent, or racist against your minority parent? Or both? merrily Jun 2013 #67
You CANT be racist against the WHITE parent!! 7962 Jun 2013 #323
Nope, but ever since the BOGer types did some desperate dumpster diving quinnox Jun 2013 #24
Acceptance is the first step in healing. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #26
I hear ya quinnox Jun 2013 #28
Speaking of kool-aid ... AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #311
After getting coal for Christmas many years in a row, I hate elves. Especially dark and wood elves. Dash87 Jun 2013 #27
You got actual coal? Lucky! I only got a picture of coal. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #199
Racist or ratfucker? KittyWampus Jun 2013 #29
Were they the same cause? (nm) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #34
you make the call! frylock Jun 2013 #244
Well...something similar to you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #30
Hmm... Fearless Jun 2013 #31
Geez. You could be a Grand Kleagle in the Klan! MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #32
Kleagle. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #57
They wear hats. Special hats. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #84
You single issue voters really frost me. merrily Jun 2013 #61
Obama's "clean" coal was epic stupid. L0oniX Jun 2013 #180
Damn. You were expecting a whole herd of ponies Doctor_J Jun 2013 #332
Rick Warren. I've learned my lesson. Standing up against bigots is racist. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #33
I will not forget some of the things that the LGBT community had to read during that time. NCTraveler Jun 2013 #164
Those who spoke ill of the Warren inclusion... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #214
I think I became an raesist Hydra Jun 2013 #35
Well, he did promise to fix that after we elected him President. merrily Jun 2013 #63
Extending the patriot act made me a racist! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #37
There was once an OP... xocet Jun 2013 #40
"But it was all right, everything was all right, Hydra Jun 2013 #43
This is too cool. May I quote you (and attribute) you when appropriate? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #50
You noticed that pattern too? LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #218
You certainly may: I am glad that you enjoyed the piece! n/t xocet Jun 2013 #345
stop yer lyin! merrily Jun 2013 #99
"My God, it's full of links..." [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2013 #201
You are in a maze of twisty little blue links, all alike... Pholus Jun 2013 #158
Indeed! n/t xocet Jun 2013 #174
... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #181
I did a few bong hits and decided in my paranoia backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #44
I was seduced into a mixed race marriage, lol. nt BootinUp Jun 2013 #45
When you demanded of a Dem black president that all would go your way treestar Jun 2013 #46
"All" Yeah, that''s it. merrily Jun 2013 #64
Context for readers! A post by treestar from her rant 'gays have plenty of rights' Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #148
This has nothing to do with gay issues. treestar Jun 2013 #150
It is about bigotry on DU. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #155
Do you care about racism at all? treestar Jun 2013 #163
You don't know a thing about me, my family, my life, background or works. Yet you judge. Why? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #169
So what about racism? treestar Jun 2013 #173
Actual racism is a pernicious evil on the face of humanity. Don't you agree? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #175
You can quote me all day if you want treestar Jun 2013 #200
"You are spamming threads with unrelated subjects" - !!! sibelian Jun 2013 #221
How can anyone not realise that racism, homophobia and bigotry are related issues and all idwiyo Jun 2013 #267
People ARE bigots when they insist that only they know what members of one of the most idwiyo Jun 2013 #252
This post is so very revealing for me. stillwaiting Jun 2013 #296
No, it was when Rush Limbaugh told me that all Liberals are hypocritical racists who con sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #153
Yep-there you go! Boomerproud Jun 2013 #286
When Bill Clinton pushed for NAFTA and the Clipper Chip toddaa Jun 2013 #47
Toni Morrison did call Bill the first black President. merrily Jun 2013 #65
Oddly I just found out I may be a gay closet racist, petulant and complaining... Safetykitten Jun 2013 #48
I believe the word you may be looking for is "poutrage." merrily Jun 2013 #66
The Pom Pom Crowd Loves The Poutrage Thingy HangOnKids Jun 2013 #83
To be fair merrily Jun 2013 #89
Those "original thoughts" would have died from lonliness HangOnKids Jun 2013 #93
Don't sell them sort they also have 'hair on fire' and emoticons to express how funny they think Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #154
You are only saying that because you aren't part of the LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #220
Don't forget Emo-Prog TDale313 Jun 2013 #328
i still had the same opinions even after Obama became president. Enrique Jun 2013 #49
Not only are you racist, but you are a Republican racist. merrily Jun 2013 #69
What the board needs is an investigation comity to ferret out the racist among us. zeemike Jun 2013 #51
Well I had a dream night before kitt6 Jun 2013 #52
Those smoke signals would have told you where to go. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #55
I thought cutting Social Security was a bad idea Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #53
There are a few nutty radicals out there that I've read about...... AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #54
protesting the invasion of iraq did it to me. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #56
I was born in the South so I didn't have a choice. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #58
I was born in Philadelphia, PA, but grew up in South Florida RebelOne Jun 2013 #256
Actually Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #342
I defended someone who was being accused of being a racist Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #59
Fellow traveler, defending someone accused of being a racist. You're the worst kind of racist! merrily Jun 2013 #74
I know, it was Cali too Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #120
Well, about 20 years ago . . . Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #60
I opposed the billion dollar giveaway to private health insurers known as the ACA... OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #62
+1000000 liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #68
+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #187
+1 n-t Logical Jun 2013 #344
I discovered I was a racist when the president put Social Security on the table Marr Jun 2013 #72
So, January 16, 2009? merrily Jun 2013 #76
Wow! What took him so long? SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #184
It is racism to hate people who refuse to eat catfood jsr Jun 2013 #254
I supported Kucinich. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #73
Good thing I started reading this thread at the beginning and worked my way down. merrily Jun 2013 #78
Now yer gettin' it! Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #87
So, you are pro good looking WASPs? I rest my case. merrily Jun 2013 #91
Swamp Rat shows how it should be. Octafish Jun 2013 #348
Under Clinton the spam porn was bjs and "barely legal teens"... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #349
Great! Now, where do I send the invoice for the computer screen? Octafish Jun 2013 #350
I bit the apple, and was banned from Eden. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #80
The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. merrily Jun 2013 #82
My observation of "reality-based democrats"... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #90
Well, now you harshed my mellow. And I was having such fun, too. merrily Jun 2013 #94
It was intended as a barb. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #102
Thanks for the thread. I had a lot of fun with it merrily Jun 2013 #85
When I decided universal health care was more important than one individual. kiva Jun 2013 #86
I became a racist when I objected to rappers using the "n"-bomb, arguing it was a word Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #88
People on DU have kneejerk reactions davidpdx Jun 2013 #98
I became a racist 35 years ago MurrayDelph Jun 2013 #101
Wow. Did that really happen? Brigid Jun 2013 #157
Sure did. MurrayDelph Jun 2013 #301
Omg, Manny, stop reading that stuff! You don't know what it could do to you. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #103
When I was silly enough to think war crimes should be prosecuted. JoeyT Jun 2013 #105
No, Manny, as far as I can see you are the following intaglio Jun 2013 #107
Attention whore. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #118
Wrong thread. Deleted and moved to the right place. idwiyo Jun 2013 #135
I love leftists who want social revolution. LWolf Jun 2013 #206
Manny, this really and truly isn't very funny. ucrdem Jun 2013 #108
I really don't think it's supposed to be funny, ucrdem. sibelian Jun 2013 #110
Misguided satire, at best, and that is being generous. Skidmore Jun 2013 #111
I was responding to a specific post MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #116
I hope you and others take those points to heart and realize Skidmore Jun 2013 #122
And I'll ask you to consider this response to the current accusations of racism. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #156
A post yesterday had many DU members calling me a racist! Where... Logical Jun 2013 #126
I read the post you are talking about and Skidmore Jun 2013 #127
When you denigrate principled opposition as "Right Wing memes" Maedhros Jun 2013 #204
I am on the receiving end and I don't have a single problem with Manny's post. I do have a damn idwiyo Jun 2013 #139
Nice hit and run. Skidmore Jun 2013 #143
You are welcome to re-read your posts in this thread. They are full of hypocrisy, IMNSHO. idwiyo Jun 2013 #146
I did. Skidmore Jun 2013 #151
Who on the left is 'adopting the RW usage of racism'? Do you have an example? idwiyo Jun 2013 #159
Hold on LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #227
Manny's 'satire' has been misguided from the begining grantcart Jun 2013 #189
Thanks grantcart ucrdem Jun 2013 #197
Thanks Grant.... jaysunb Jun 2013 #334
The problem with that logic is that when I say that I strongly oppose his SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #195
Thank you skidmore JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #226
Please check your PM. Thank you for this post. Number23 Jun 2013 #297
We racists need a little space of our own right now MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #115
You actually made it all the way through Puglover Jun 2013 #162
Mock racism that looks like real racism and isn't meant to be funny ucrdem Jun 2013 #168
You actually read that???? Autumn Jun 2013 #224
Wow, you again, are you an admin or something? How about you... Logical Jun 2013 #124
It wasn't meant to be funny. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #141
What gave you an idea this OP was intended to be 'funny'? idwiyo Jun 2013 #144
If it isn't funny, it's serious, and that would mean the OP is seriously racist, ucrdem Jun 2013 #223
Is there anything that ISN'T racist? sibelian Jun 2013 #225
If real racism looks the same as "mock" racism, maybe posting mock racism isn't such a good idea. ucrdem Jun 2013 #228
.... so... is there anything that ISN'T racist? sibelian Jun 2013 #233
Yes of course. Why? ucrdem Jun 2013 #235
bbl nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #239
Stupid ideas need to be mocked. Rush Limbaugh garbage doesn't belong here on DU, and no one sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #291
What are you talking about specifically? ucrdem Jun 2013 #292
Don't worry about it, everyone else knows. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #300
Thanks for your deep thoughts then. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #302
I am trying to tell you that 'not funny' means 'OP is seriously racist'? Are you OK? idwiyo Jun 2013 #240
Yes I am and yes you are. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #241
Are you familiar with a concept of 'sarcasm'? Your posts make it clear you are not. idwiyo Jun 2013 #245
There's no indication of sarcasm visible to me or to the NYT ucrdem Jun 2013 #250
Yes, I know you didn't realise OP was sarcastic. That's OK. This is why I suggested you read idwiyo Jun 2013 #259
Topical humor is best left to professionals. ucrdem Jun 2013 #263
No, I don't. It takes a very... lets say 'special' kind of very convoluted thinking to conjure idwiyo Jun 2013 #265
It just takes a little decency and common sense. ucrdem Jun 2013 #306
Judging by the content and quality of your posts... they are indeed. Points fo admiting your idwiyo Jun 2013 #347
I thought I didn't like drones. sibelian Jun 2013 #109
My girlfriend of two years Flying Squirrel Jun 2013 #121
I criticized the policies of the federal government of the United States. Iggo Jun 2013 #123
I Was on the Racist RobinA Jun 2013 #125
I realized I wasn't going to compromise my principles. nt DLevine Jun 2013 #129
When I voted for Obama twice? forestpath Jun 2013 #131
Me too! Which really shocked my interracial family... usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #132
you racist, you nt markiv Jun 2013 #133
When I wasn't getting a unicorn... 99Forever Jun 2013 #134
I read some really awful stuff like Universal Declaration of Human Rights. :( idwiyo Jun 2013 #136
I dared to suggest the NSA was breaking the law! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #137
I own firearms. oneshooter Jun 2013 #138
Good gawd. Every slight imagined or not leads to a woe is me I'm a victim OP by you. great white snark Jun 2013 #140
Opposing Keystone XL and TPP, the coming merger with China.... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #142
For me it was supporting an African American Candidate in 2008 n2doc Jun 2013 #147
As an African-American, I became racist against myself a few weeks ago Apophis Jun 2013 #152
My racism has evolved greatly over the last couple of years. NCTraveler Jun 2013 #160
It happened to me after I worked my ass off to elect Obama in 2008. Bonobo Jun 2013 #161
I must have been a racist all along. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #165
apparently ive always been a racist misogynist who humps guns ?! things you learn here! nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #166
It's easier to be tolerant of *those kinds of people* when they deliver the promised pony. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #167
I was born here, on Planet Terra. kentauros Jun 2013 #170
I'm Irish/American: It seems we don't even like each other byeya Jun 2013 #171
It looks like a direct hit on those raw nerves. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #172
It was a very large bulls eye. L0oniX Jun 2013 #182
I don't know when or how it happened. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #176
I criticized Obama ...so according to the authoritarians & worshippers ...I am a racist. L0oniX Jun 2013 #177
"I Was Really Drunk At The Time..." WillyT Jun 2013 #183
It was a short leap from admiring Elizabeth Warren's to hating anyone who didn't look like her. n/t Orsino Jun 2013 #185
I think, therefore I am, I guess..... NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #188
So... how did YOU become a racist? The CCC Jun 2013 #192
I was in a sociology class in the 70s. Our Prof said that everyone has some class or race of people jwirr Jun 2013 #193
Trust me. Anyone that disagrees with President Obama is a racist. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #194
I suppose NOLALady Jun 2013 #196
But I'm a Cheerleader Babel_17 Jun 2013 #198
Back in 2008, I said something nice about Hillary Clinton and her campaign during the primaries. hughee99 Jun 2013 #202
200 replies, but none of you guys bother to write letters to newspapers or to Congress Kolesar Jun 2013 #203
Are you an NSA plant? LWolf Jun 2013 #207
Are you a HS grad? Kolesar Jun 2013 #303
Oh, the irony. LWolf Jun 2013 #351
No, the NSA hires contractors for their astroturfing operations. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #329
(1) make shit up Kolesar Jun 2013 #352
And you would be wrong and talking out of ignorance. Autumn Jun 2013 #230
You assume much, and assume it wrongly. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #237
Your posts don't make much sense. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #249
where do we log those hours? frylock Jun 2013 #253
When, in '08, before being elected, LWolf Jun 2013 #205
I just generally dislike the Portuguese. EOTE Jun 2013 #208
When I shed my slavish devotion to the party n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #211
I was born this way. I got my dark skinned mixed race female LGBT Yellowdog Zorra Jun 2013 #219
I guess it was when I realized that health care was a right due to all citizens of the US kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #222
Perhaps when I didn't condemn Joe Biden for... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #229
when I didn't get a pony.... mike_c Jun 2013 #231
Call me a racist? Just leave, and here- Let me hold the door open for you... richmwill Jun 2013 #234
i think it was after the second time i voted for obama that i realized i was a racist.. frylock Jun 2013 #242
During the Bush Administration Aerows Jun 2013 #247
I was raised that way. I got over it. Bake Jun 2013 #255
I read articles by Cornel West, Tavis Smiley, and Charles Blow...all critical of President Obama DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #258
My parents always taught me better and my Grandparents lived in an all black neighborhood xtraxritical Jun 2013 #268
N/s JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #281
Whatever. lameo xtraxritical Jun 2013 #295
You're Easy Breezy and I am Japaneezy AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #269
now that is funny...... madrchsod Jun 2013 #273
I love that song and Utada Hikaru .. AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #275
when i went through mississippi when i was a kid in the 50`s madrchsod Jun 2013 #270
When I decided to enter a half marathon. mwooldri Jun 2013 #271
I'm a proud racist! Fuddnik Jun 2013 #274
damn races! n/t warrprayer Jun 2013 #282
It was when I acknowledged the fact that I am an unwilling participant in the race to the bottom. bluesbassman Jun 2013 #272
I can't be! Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #279
You are self hating racist mongrel, just like me. It's a very sad, sad case. :( idwiyo Jun 2013 #283
When I realized due to my multi racial heritage janlyn Jun 2013 #285
I had sex with a racist without a condom. nt Incitatus Jun 2013 #287
Ever since a bunch of white kids kicked my ass because of my black girlfriend... stlsaxman Jun 2013 #290
Are you serious? One of the 99 Jun 2013 #293
Yep. With him and judging by the posts, several others as well Number23 Jun 2013 #299
Look down thread JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #310
Do I have to? Upthread was bad enough. Number23 Jun 2013 #327
he was also dismissive of FDR and internment camps JI7 Jun 2013 #343
I was born white KamaAina Jun 2013 #298
When Paula Deen French-kissed me derby378 Jun 2013 #308
I was 19 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #309
Ah, this is the "down thread" post. Thanks goodness! Number23 Jun 2013 #330
I think a lot of us became racists the same way we became anti-semites yurbud Jun 2013 #314
Some of us DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #315
I grew up in the state in which the electorate recalled an outstanding US Senator for having had the indepat Jun 2013 #316
Humans are miserable know-it-alls. Kablooie Jun 2013 #317
by summary judgement and declaration by fellow DUers stupidicus Jun 2013 #318
I Haven Given This Some Serious Thought Liberal_Dog Jun 2013 #325
I will let you know as soon as it happens.. fadedrose Jun 2013 #326
I think it was when Van Jones was asked to fall on his sword Doctor_J Jun 2013 #331
It must have started Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #333
The first time I watched 2001 A Space Odyssey ....... chknltl Jun 2013 #335
I enjoyed it until I found out what it was supposed to mean. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #337
Extraterrestrial Xenophobianism? Well there's a good reason for that! chknltl Jun 2013 #355
I saw Halle Berry in "The Last Boy Scout", thought "She is FINE!", and I knew I was a racist. Kennah Jun 2013 #336
Weird. I was not a racist about the Bengazi or the IRS scandal. But the NSA one made me racist! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #339
Many of us. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #341
Got out of bed this morning. westerebus Jun 2013 #340
I'm not, never was. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #346
 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
1. I learned mine from my Hispanic grandfather
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:52 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:12 PM - Edit history (1)

and African American grandmother.

Or maybe my Northern European mother.

Or quite possibly my indigenous American wife.

Apperantly I was bread to be a racist.


I remember them all saying, judge a person by their skin color and not by what they do.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
77. It's the latest desperate attempt to distract from the fact that there is a massive surveillance
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:32 AM
Jun 2013

program going on in the US on the American people. Which is a crime under the US Constitution.

All the other talking points failed to defend it. When that happens, there are only two possible charges, and these two are reserved for Liberals, they wouldn't work on Right Wingers since they actually apply to them.

One is to call a 'liberal a 'racist' Rush Limbaugh eg, does it all the time.

If that fails, watch for 'anti-women'. Obama = pro women, those who disagree with the surveillance of Americans = anti-women. There is no logic to any of it, but there is not meant to be, it is meant to distract.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
128. Accusing anyone of racism simply because they disagree with president is "Fail of the epic variety"
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:38 AM
Jun 2013

Glad you have enough integrity to admit it in public. Very commendable.


Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
145. Simplistic, tone deaf interpretation
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jun 2013

and knee jerk outrage.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

So who's on deck for next swat? The swarm feels a bit light.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
149. You are getting better and better with your descriptions of those who can't stand the very idea of
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:39 AM
Jun 2013

disagreement with the current president of US.

Bravo!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
289. Didn't think so, and I kept it short too, just for you!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jun 2013

Can't blame you though, we all to 'watch what we say' these days!

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
248. I just asked your teammate the
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:36 PM
Jun 2013

same question.


There are still a few swarm members missing their shot at me.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
251. well let's hope they get on board, tout de suite!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jun 2013

I hate to see a good persecution complex go to waste.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
257. Projection!!11!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:51 PM
Jun 2013

Funny stuff.... you just offered the perfect description of this thread.

Unintentional irony at it's finest.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
260. you're outta your league here..
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jun 2013

like the person that keeps throwing the term "ratfucker" around, I don't think you know what that word means. good day.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
266. I'm a social worker
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)

I know exactly what it means. Condescension noted.

As far as being "out of my league," I'll take that as a complement. Your "league" is not one that I would want to be associated with.....and yes, I know what that phrase means as well.

You can take your arrogance and sell it elsewhere.

Understand?

Oh and btw..... When you see this particular punctuation (!11!) following a word or phrase on DU, it denotes mocking. Again, your teammate tried to use the term "projection" upthread in an effort to form some kind of response.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
277. thanks for schooling me on how teh interwebs works..
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

you know, memes and whutnots. I mean, I don't know fuckall. i'm just a lowly systems admin who's been fucking around on the web for 17 or so years. and good for you on your social work. I really do mean that. I volunteer down at the foodbank, so I do typically look highly upon those that make an effort to better the lives of those less fortunate. but that still doesn't change the fact that your assigning the term of psychological projection to my reply when it simply doesn't apply. furthermore, i'm not on any "team." you see, I don't look at politics as some type of "team" sport. too many people have an us-against-them attitude, and lose sight of policy, deciding instead to focus on personality. again, I bid you a good day.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
284. Okay
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3055377

My use of the term in reference to this.

As long as we're sharing here....

I've been a clinical social worker for 25 years. I have an undergrad degree in psych, and a masters in social work. Although I've done my time in homeless and youth shelters, much of my work as been as an outpatient therapist. So I know my way around a number of psychological terms much like the way you know your way around teh interwebs.

So when you admonish me for the inappropriate use of the term "projection," it strikes me as odd, considering the way it is frequently used around here as a throwaway line to mean; "I know what you are, but what am I."

Clearly I was swarmed in this thread, and I can handle that, but for you to proceed to tell me that I'm "out of my league," as if I'm some sort of dumbass, or unable to hang with the "crowd," that crossed the line for me.

Anyway...good day to you as well.



Number23

(24,544 posts)
294. Girl, that was no swarm that was a Flock of Foolishness
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jun 2013

A Mob of Mindlessness. And you had just the right sized can of Raid to deal with it.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
304. Social workers have the lowest
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jun 2013

average IQs of any college graduates. I'm not suggesting you're out of your league, but it would be nice to hear a cogent argument in defense of your position rather than all the snarky insults. If you can do something like that.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
307. Thanks professor
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jun 2013

You're honestly asking me to provide a "cogent argument" in THIS fucking thread?

Seriously?

Brilliant. No, this thread is nothing BUT snark.

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
312. Why bother?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:50 PM
Jun 2013

There's no discussing this actual issue without name calling on both sides and more time is spent here figuring out ways to insult those who don't see things exactly like you do than anything else.

And silly me I thought only rightwingers "debated" like this.

And in case you didnt know, this website has the awesome feature to trash threads.

Good luck out there!

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
322. 320 replies in this asinine thread
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:27 PM
Jun 2013

and you're fixated on mine?

Welcome to the team! Tag up, professor.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
324. 322 actually.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jun 2013

Had you looked above the first post and seen the number you wouldn't have needed to try and count them one at a time.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
216. I could not agree more!!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jun 2013

So tired of all the cries from folks claiming to be victims here on DU...It reminds me of Christians in America always claiming that they're victims of persecution. SAD!!

I will join in...

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
3. For me it was looking at children mutilated and slaughtered by drone strikes...
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:56 PM
Jun 2013

For some reason these shredded junior terrorists pushed me over the edge.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
262. Yes, you're obviously a racist.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:03 PM
Jun 2013

I became a racist when I found out there were no advocates for single-payer health insurance at the bargaining table when that was all decided for us. I became a double racist when I found out OBama had put SS and Medicare on the bargaining table. I became a ne plus ultra racist when I found out that the spying and eavesdropping policies of Bush had been continued, and enhanced.

Boo yeah.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
280. By other people's standards, that is when I became one, too.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jun 2013

If you don't believe in Obama 100%, it's because of his race.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. Only speaking for our dog. He noticed that some folk don't look like me and my wife.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:57 PM
Jun 2013

He does not like that. Vocally.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. I believed a 1960s Utopian dream...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:01 AM
Jun 2013

... and refused to ever acknowledge that accomplishing those goals meant a shit ton of hard work.

You?

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
11. +10000000000
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:09 AM
Jun 2013

I've read one OP that put that forth....it's somehow become the FauxNews sound bite of Many on DU.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
236. Living your beliefs is the hard work.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jun 2013

Not living your beliefs is generally known as selling out.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
264. X1000
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:12 PM
Jun 2013

I've never had much use for the Excuse Makers.
That is why I love the OLD Democratic Party Leadership like FDR, HST, and LBJ...
NO EXCUSES, but especially no excuses accepted for NOT fighting.

When LBJ did the right thing in 1964,
and signed the Civil Rights Act is when I had the epiphany.
There is NO valid excuse for NOT doing the Right Thing.



You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS,[/font]
not by their excuses.

[font color=firebrick size=3][center]"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."

--- Paul Wellstone[/font]
[/center]
[center][/font]
[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center]
[/font]

[font size=5 color=firebrick]Solidarity![/font]

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
23. I became self-aware.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:17 AM
Jun 2013

Your apology has been noted.

And recorded.

And filed away.

Seriously, you should see my cabinets around this place. Can't exactly Public Storage you lot.

QC

(26,371 posts)
12. I thought the people who crashed the world economy should
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:10 AM
Jun 2013

bear some sort of accountability for it.

Silly me!

 

The Link

(757 posts)
21. I think it was when I was born, like the President, the child of one white parent...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:16 AM
Jun 2013

and one minority parent.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
67. Did you become racist against your white parent, or racist against your minority parent? Or both?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:16 AM
Jun 2013
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
24. Nope, but ever since the BOGer types did some desperate dumpster diving
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:17 AM
Jun 2013

and started trotting out the racist card to try and silence those who are the heretics and non-believers, I realized this NSA business has not only caused cognitive disturbance, but drove some of them plain batty.

If it isn't grand conspiracy theories involving the entire worlds' media united against Obama, it is something else equally nuts, like racists everywhere they look.

Can you say, way too much kool-aid?

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
311. Speaking of kool-aid ...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jun 2013

Here's you explaining HClinton's IWR vote.

Kool-aid anyone?

quinnox (16,060 posts)

28. well, maybe she had to do that for her political career. She is a woman, and she has to appear strong. I am not excusing it, just saying she might have had reasons. And it was not a pivotal vote she made either, in terms of the numbers. If she had opposed it, that would have made no difference in how it came out.

link to this gem: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2593794
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
30. Well...something similar to you
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jun 2013

And family history. You'd be surprised how intolerant you become of data mining when family members died due the collection of data at that mythical time we are not supposed to remember.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
31. Hmm...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jun 2013

By disagreeing with the president on the Afghanistan War
By being frustrated at the Administration's foot dragging on DADT
By seeing Guantanamo still open more than a half decade after we were told it would close
By seeing the precedent for drone strikes on American citizens abroad enacted and the further gutting of habeas corpus
By recognizing that the government is more concerned with spying on environmentalists and OWS then prosecuting bankers
By seeing that we now accept tar sands as an acceptable energy solution apparently
By realizing that we still don't have an ENDA and do have an Administration that hasn't fought for it
By realizing that the most transparent Administration in decades is a fraudulent claim
By seeing the continuation of the Bush economic policy
By seeing the continuation of the Bush education policy
By seeing the continuation of the Bush drug policy
By suggesting the fleecing of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as a budget balancing solution
By seeing secret free trade agreements going to be rammed through without Congressional debate
By seeing "clean" coal being used as an alternative energy source for the United States in a Democratic State of the Union Address

And probably several other things like failure to act on single payer, no-bid contracts to private military and arms contractors, and so on and so forth.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
332. Damn. You were expecting a whole herd of ponies
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:08 PM
Jun 2013

you should start your own version of The List. When you do, please add

By seeing political prisoner Don Siegelmann left to rot in prison
By seeing a nominal (D) president side with management over labor

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
33. Rick Warren. I've learned my lesson. Standing up against bigots is racist.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:33 AM
Jun 2013

I was clutching my pearls on my imaginary pony.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
164. I will not forget some of the things that the LGBT community had to read during that time.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:16 AM
Jun 2013

At a point for me it wasn't even about Warren, it was about the words some used to defend it. It wasn't just a couple of posters either. Many of the words were completely hateful. If I had the reaction to them that I did, I cannot imagine reading them if you were a part of any group they were aimed at. I realized something that I wasn't aware of during that time. I realized that many don't care or understand the importance of the promotion of equality at all times. That was a landmark moment in the history of the US. Many also don't care about their brothers and sisters, who are willing to fight tooth and nail for progressive causes, when they are under attack. Actually quite the opposite, many went on the attack. So while you were being told that you were clutching your pearls and looking for your imaginary pony, many people such as myself learned a lot. It gave me a much better understanding with respect to how brutal and personal the fight for equality is. I am not trying to make light of the situation by making it about me. I just want to let you know that some of us learned a lot and were watching with open eyes.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
214. Those who spoke ill of the Warren inclusion...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:52 PM
Jun 2013

were summarily trounced, and basically told to STFU. I guess that should have been a harbinger.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
35. I think I became an raesist
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:38 AM
Jun 2013

After this:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00168

Measure Number: H.R. 6304 (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 )
Measure Title: A bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to establish a procedure for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign intelligence, and for other purposes.

Obama (D-IL), Yea

merrily

(45,251 posts)
63. Well, he did promise to fix that after we elected him President.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:06 AM
Jun 2013

Not his fault that we did not ask him what he meant by "fix."

xocet

(3,871 posts)
40. There was once an OP...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jun 2013

It led down a dark thread.

From out of nowhere, self-referential blue links appeared and were everywhere around my reply.

They kept pointing and pointing - full of text and assertion yet signifying nothing.

Hydra-like, if one were addressed, ten more would sprout in its place.

...Pointing and pointing...Always pointing...Always regressing...Away from the OP and off towards infinity...

Only then did I realize my shameful problem.



It has been a struggle, but I am no longer made mad by the policies of this Administration - all of which now make perfect sense.







Hydra

(14,459 posts)
43. "But it was all right, everything was all right,
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:09 AM
Jun 2013

the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
50. This is too cool. May I quote you (and attribute) you when appropriate?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:32 AM
Jun 2013

DUer xocet
June 20, 2012



It led down a dark thread.

From out of nowhere, self-referential blue links appeared and were everywhere around my reply.

They kept pointing and pointing - full of text and assertion yet signifying nothing.

Hydra-like, if one were addressed, ten more would sprout in its place.

...Pointing and pointing...Always pointing...Always regressing...Away from the OP and off towards infinity...

Only then did I realize my shameful problem.



It has been a struggle, but I am no longer made mad by the policies of this Administration - all of which now make perfect sense.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023051604#post40

merrily

(45,251 posts)
99. stop yer lyin!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:05 AM
Jun 2013

I actually tried following those blue links once. Most of them led to other posts of the same poster. And those other posts also contained blue links that led to more other posts of the same poster. And those more other posts of the same poster also contained other blue links that led to still more other posts of the same poster. And those still more other posts of the same poster....

Oh, wait, you're right. Infinity.

never mind.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
158. You are in a maze of twisty little blue links, all alike...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jun 2013

Professionally designed by someone.

It all makes sense.
 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
44. I did a few bong hits and decided in my paranoia
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:12 AM
Jun 2013

that they were out to get me...and I was right.That day I became a racist

treestar

(82,383 posts)
46. When you demanded of a Dem black president that all would go your way
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:23 AM
Jun 2013

And unfairly compared him to dead white ones who were allegedly better than he, but had much more Dem Congresses at a time of much more political will, when white privilege of the time meant they could get more respect - and found the black one of the 21st century, subject to constant filibuster of every little thing by Republicans (with race as a likely factor), to simply be spineless and various other negative characterizations?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
148. Context for readers! A post by treestar from her rant 'gays have plenty of rights'
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:38 AM
Jun 2013

"There there is only one right you do not have. And people who give no credit to Obama for what he did already while making as if it is the only issue that matters are just wrong. There's always going to be some new demand. I am a woman and we don't have all our rights all the time, or some are threatened, but this is the US where we can talk about it, protest and I don't go around saying I have no rights. Not when looking at women in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia for instance.

If I am a bigot for caring about other issues, then fine. I don't think gay marriage is the only civil rights issue there is. Or the only issue that matters. And there is free speech. And the rest of the bill of rights. You should be ashamed for not caring about anyone or anything else."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2952192

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
155. It is about bigotry on DU.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jun 2013

Sorry that bothers you as it very clearly does. You claim we have 'plenty of rights'. People need to read for context, they can decide if you have a clue about equality, justice, courtesy....
It is a great thread for you. Be proud.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
163. Do you care about racism at all?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jun 2013

And people are bigots because they don't concern themselves with only your issue?

Yes you do have rights. In my state, you have every right, including marriage.

You have one issue only. You post about that one issue in any thread, you find a way to relate it. And if you keep reposting my post in unrelated threads, I think possibly you could get alerted on/banned. You are stalking. You hate me because I care about many issues and not just yours.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
169. You don't know a thing about me, my family, my life, background or works. Yet you judge. Why?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jun 2013

There is NO marriage equality anywhere in the US because that equality lies in Federal law. So we do not have every right in any American State. Your claims are false, your characterizations are venomous and without basis.
I posted your words about equal rights for minorities. Your words. 'you have plenty of rights'. Own it, it is what you think.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
175. Actual racism is a pernicious evil on the face of humanity. Don't you agree?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:56 AM
Jun 2013

Let me tell you this treestar. My work is such that I have spent funds to hire security because of death threats from folks who call me 'race traitor'. Hate letters, endless hate letters, from racists and homophobes, to be blunt dear, they are indistinguishable one from the other when they are ranting. Hate is hate. Those who excuse discrimination are purveyors of that hate. Show me one who excuses homophobia, you show me a person who will excuse racism. That is a fact.
To repeat, you don't know my life. You do not know who I love, who have been my mentors and and my peers, who raised me, who formed my identity as a gay man and as an artist.
My posting life on DU is here to search, you should do so. So should any and everyone. I invite them to.
Your posts are also here to look at. You do not want yours seen. I'm fine with mine. Think about that. I am proud of my life, my work and my words. You get snarky when you are quoted. Think about that.
Quote me all day. I know my heart, you on the other hand, do not.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
221. "You are spamming threads with unrelated subjects" - !!!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jun 2013

Like accusing surveillance opponents of racism?

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
267. How can anyone not realise that racism, homophobia and bigotry are related issues and all
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jun 2013

of them are equally important and must not be compromised on EVER is totally beyond me.
Isn't it what fight for equality is about?

Its incomprehensible that you INSIST post after post after post that this 'one issue' of equality is not important enough to always be on the forefront, yet at the same time you profess how deeply you care about eradicating racism.

To me it starting to look like you believe that LGBTQ community consists of white rich males only, and the only thing they care about is getting married, nothing else (because they already have all other rights, according to you).

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
252. People ARE bigots when they insist that only they know what members of one of the most
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jun 2013

marginalised minorities think and care about.

It IS bigotry when LGBTQ minority is told to shut up and be happy because they already have more rights in US than in Iran or SA (for an example).

I don't even know what to call someone who would accuse another person of being a racist because they dare to demand equal rights for everyone.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
296. This post is so very revealing for me.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jun 2013

I'll just be kind and say you are very, very ignorant, and you have zero excuse for being so seeing how prolific you are around here.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
153. No, it was when Rush Limbaugh told me that all Liberals are hypocritical racists who con
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jun 2013

minorities into voting for them by bribing them with Welfare. He told me liberals want to keep minorities dependent on them so they keep giving them stuff.

toddaa

(2,518 posts)
47. When Bill Clinton pushed for NAFTA and the Clipper Chip
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:24 AM
Jun 2013

As we all know, criticism of free trade and spying on civilians often goes hand in hand with holocaust denial and reading Charles Murray books.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
65. Toni Morrison did call Bill the first black President.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:10 AM
Jun 2013

When Obama ran against Hillary, Toni said she had only been joking about Bill, but disagreeing with Bill on the issues still counts as racism.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
66. I believe the word you may be looking for is "poutrage."
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:13 AM
Jun 2013

It works best when used to gay males, but can be almost as condescending to anyone.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
83. The Pom Pom Crowd Loves The Poutrage Thingy
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:42 AM
Jun 2013

That and my little pony, because they are so sure of how cute they are.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
89. To be fair
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:47 AM
Jun 2013

going beyond tried and true things like "poutrage," "racist," "epic fail," "pony," etc. would require original thought. Using the tried and true things from the past is what any true conservative, I mean, Democrat, would do.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
93. Those "original thoughts" would have died from lonliness
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:54 AM
Jun 2013

Some here are still pumping gas into Granny it appears.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
154. Don't sell them sort they also have 'hair on fire' and emoticons to express how funny they think
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jun 2013

equal rights and basic decency are.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
328. Don't forget Emo-Prog
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jun 2013

They tried that one for a while. Didn't really catch on- I think cause some of us actually kinda liked it

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
49. i still had the same opinions even after Obama became president.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:26 AM
Jun 2013

a true non-racist would have changed all of his views to match Obama's.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
69. Not only are you racist, but you are a Republican racist.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:20 AM
Jun 2013

No true Democrat would have clung to principles.

You disgust me.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
51. What the board needs is an investigation comity to ferret out the racist among us.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:36 AM
Jun 2013

So I ask you now Manny. are you now. or have you ever been a member of the Obama haters club?

And for the rest of you, you can avoid all of this probating by taking the Obama loyalty oath and posting your disgust with those who question his polices...that is the path to take if you want instant love and acceptance by the Never Question The Leader club

 

kitt6

(516 posts)
52. Well I had a dream night before
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:37 AM
Jun 2013

last. American Indians with headdress told all of us to go home. They said it was too much smoke in the air. But we didn't know where to go.

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
53. I thought cutting Social Security was a bad idea
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jun 2013

but it turns out I was just suffering from some massive white privilege complex, as was explained in about 100 different articles that all happened to jump on that idea at the same time.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
54. There are a few nutty radicals out there that I've read about......
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jun 2013

that say that white people are racist just for being born white. I mean, come on, I know "white privilege" is an issue, but this approach takes it WAAAAAYYYY too far.....it's like saying all Jews are anti-Arab just because of how some rightist Israeli governments have treated Palestinians, or that all Japanese are anti-Ainu because Ainu people can still be discriminated against sometimes. I mean, seriously.....

(P.S. no, it wasn't from anybody on this board.)

Uncle Joe

(58,354 posts)
58. I was born in the South so I didn't have a choice.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:48 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Thanks for the thread, Manny.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
256. I was born in Philadelphia, PA, but grew up in South Florida
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jun 2013

since I was 6 years old. I am now 74, so I have seen plenty of racism, such as separate bathrooms, water fountains, blacks having to sit in the back of buses, not allowed into white restaurants and movie theaters and school segregation. But attitudes change when you age.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
120. I know, it was Cali too
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:06 AM
Jun 2013

Correction; it was Quinnox, I defended. I later defended Cali after whe was called Madame Obamahater by another poster.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
60. Well, about 20 years ago . . .
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:51 AM
Jun 2013

I looked at the facts in a certain murder case and concluded a certain celebrity defendant was guilty. Having said that that was what I thought, I instantly became a racist. Being a fellow with Korean children, Japanese nephews, Mexican cousins and a distant relative who's black, that hurt.

More recently, like you, I read the Fourth Amendment. Of course, I read the Fourth Amendment and memorized it with the rest of the Constitution when I was in eighth grade, which was even before that certain celebrity murder defendant played running back at USC. Now when a couple of dippy white presidents acted like they either hadn't read or didn't understand it (in fact one of them I was pretty sure couldn't read at all, in spite of getting a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard), I cried bloody murder and demanded that their heads roll. That almost happened to one of those two dippy white presidents, but he chickened out and resigned; the illiterate one got off free for no good reason except that Congress chickened out.

Now that we have a black president, I am suddenly a racist when I scream bloody murder about him acting like he's never read or understood the Fourth Amendment (and I am even absolutely certain that this fellow can read). Nevertheless, I've screamed bloody murder because he is collecting information of all us Americans, regardless of whether any particular one of us is suspected of doing anything wrong, just as I did when those two dippy white Republican jack asses did it. So, I guess I am a racist because I make no distinction between a white Republican or a black Democrat who violates the Fourth Amendment.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
62. I opposed the billion dollar giveaway to private health insurers known as the ACA...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:05 AM
Jun 2013

And then I asked for a trade policy that would benefit the working class, and I got the TPP instead.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
72. I discovered I was a racist when the president put Social Security on the table
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:22 AM
Jun 2013

as a path to deficit reduction.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
78. Good thing I started reading this thread at the beginning and worked my way down.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:35 AM
Jun 2013

By the time I got to your post, I had become tougher.

Not only are you racist, you're a Republican troll. No true Democrat in modern times would have supported Kucinich. He's not DLC.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
87. Now yer gettin' it!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:44 AM
Jun 2013

I wanted a FLOTUS with a British accent and flowing red hair and a POTUS that looked like a Hobbit.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
349. Under Clinton the spam porn was bjs and "barely legal teens"...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jun 2013

Under Bush it was s&m/b&d and "hot military studs".

When Palin came along it was all MILF, all the time.

Just think of all the midget sex we've missed.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
350. Great! Now, where do I send the invoice for the computer screen?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:16 AM
Jun 2013


Come to think of it, there was a lot of screwing going on.
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
80. I bit the apple, and was banned from Eden.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:37 AM
Jun 2013

I read the 1st and 4th Amendments of that racist manifesto known as the Bill of Rights, and I was hooked.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
82. The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:41 AM
Jun 2013

If you were a real Democrat, knowledge of good and evil would give you nothing but indigestion.

Get thee away from me, Republican.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
90. My observation of "reality-based democrats"...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:49 AM
Jun 2013

is when confronted with evil they bury their heads in the sand and scream "nyah, nyah, nyah, I can't hear you" to the messenger, and then hit the alert button. Good little germans, but pathetic human beings. Prescott Busch would be proud of them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
94. Well, now you harshed my mellow. And I was having such fun, too.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:55 AM
Jun 2013

We're all good Germans. Either that, or we should have STFU about "good Germans" after WWII.

According to us, the German citizens were to blame because they saw what was happening and failed to stop Hitler.

So, tell me, what could they have done to stop him? I think we owe them a mega apology for the guilt trip we threw on them, but most of them are dead by now. Well, at least their descendants demonstrated when Obama spoke recently. Demonstrations in Hong Kong, too. In the U.S., though? All Quiet on the Western Front.

Sorry to go all serious on you, but I have been thinking about that a lot in recent months.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
102. It was intended as a barb.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:12 AM
Jun 2013

Apologies if it struck too close.

My family background is German, though my mom's side left about 400 and my dad's side in the later 1800s. I can fully understand how Germany accepted Hitler. The economy was in shambles, Hitler promised better. Hitler created division by blaming Jews, Gypsies, and Homosexuals (interesting irony there), thus creating a bogeyman for the population to hate. Propaganda was effective, and the truth suppressed. I too wondered how and why those who eye-witnessed the truth didn't manage to spread the word (even in secret). Then I saw similar begin to incubate here, and understood. Some Germans were simply struggling to get by...if keeping your job meant keeping your eyes closed, sobeit. Others bought into the propaganda, either by willfull ignorance, gullible ignorance, or in the hope of bettering their social status. Those who saw or suspected the truth, and opposed the evil, were simply out-numbered...and to speak out was suicide....and a death sentence for their family. Thats how it happened.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
85. Thanks for the thread. I had a lot of fun with it
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:42 AM
Jun 2013

even though Idid not become a racist like the rest of you racists.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
86. When I decided universal health care was more important than one individual.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:43 AM
Jun 2013

Or maybe it was when Social Security got put on the table. No, I'm pretty sure it was when it became apparent that none of the banksters were going to be held accountable for the financial meltdown.

Thinking about it, though, I suspect it was when I failed to gush over the swimsuit pictures.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
88. I became a racist when I objected to rappers using the "n"-bomb, arguing it was a word
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:44 AM
Jun 2013

invented by white men to keep black people down and subjugated. I was told there is a difference between using it with an "-er" and an "-a," to which I said pronunciation differences do not change the root and meaning of the world.

I was told I was a racist for not understanding black culture. I asked if people here Jews using anti-Semetic phrases to talk to other Jews. . .I was then told I was anti-Semetic (I'm Jewish) for using those words to prove my point.

So I am a racist, anti-Semetic Jew.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
98. People on DU have kneejerk reactions
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:04 AM
Jun 2013

(or least jerk) often times. If I really went back and cataloged all the things people on DU called me...it would be an utter waste of my time. Seriously there was a really good one a few days back. The post was hidden 6-0.

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
101. I became a racist 35 years ago
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:08 AM
Jun 2013

when I was teaching elementary school in Watts, and my (black) principal kept trying to downplay educational expectations using the phrase "black kids can't..."

and I told him "Will you shut up before they start believing you?"

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
301. Sure did.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jun 2013

We all knew the principal had a double-standard for black teachers vs white ones, but could not do anything to prove it.

About four years after I quit public school teaching to go into industrial education, I bumped into my one of my former colleagues, who informed me that the principal got moved to a bigger school with more teachers, and accidentally admitted his view that only black teachers can be effective in the ghetto. The approximately 25 white teachers in his new staff of approximately 50 teachers did not take kindly to this.

He was definitely a moron. My third graders knew more about effective teaching strategies than he did (and demonstrated it).

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
103. Omg, Manny, stop reading that stuff! You don't know what it could do to you.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:13 AM
Jun 2013

And there is no cure for it once you've read it.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
105. When I was silly enough to think war crimes should be prosecuted.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:16 AM
Jun 2013

Actually I think the Rick Warren thing was the first time I actually got accused of being racist. Prior to that I'd only ever been accused of being racist by stupid right wingers insisting I hated white people because I wasn't also a stupid right winger.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
107. No, Manny, as far as I can see you are the following
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:11 AM
Jun 2013

you are an outrage junkie and a leftist who wants a socialist revolution. Admittedly your screen name is that of a right wing stalking horse but I do not think you either a racist or an agent provocateur, just someone who didn't bother actually reading 1984 critically.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
206. I love leftists who want social revolution.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jun 2013

Now that you've pointed it out, I've got to meet Manny in person.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
108. Manny, this really and truly isn't very funny.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:16 AM
Jun 2013

And to me it seems a little insensitive. Would you consider locking it up?

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
111. Misguided satire, at best, and that is being generous.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:09 AM
Jun 2013

Unless you've been on the receiving end or have witnessed someone who has been on the receiving end of racism, this claptrap apparently passes as acceptable on DU now. Having been through a very difficult period of several years dealing with racism directed at my husband, I don't find it either good satire or funny. Those who rushed to claim victimhood at once have diminished themselves and have given comfort to those elements of society using race to subvert any agenda held by the left. Racism is a real issue in this society and has been used consistently by the right to undermine this President. It is disgusting to see people purporting to be on the left rush to do the same thing. The point could have been made by simply asking what the turning point in supporting the President was for the individual.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
122. I hope you and others take those points to heart and realize
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:16 AM
Jun 2013

that carrying the RW's water for them does no one any good. Certainly, it denigrates the very people who are part of our extended coalition and discounts the experiences of many in communities across the nation. There is no way that you can employ the notion of racism as it relates to either the President or any policy that doesn't make you look like you are hypocritical in support of democratic principles. Thank you for considering what I have said and I would encourage you to reread that OP you refer to and to consider what was actually being said there.

Ms. Toad

(34,065 posts)
156. And I'll ask you to consider this response to the current accusations of racism.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:52 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3051217

And suggest that the same applies when you (speaking generically to all who have) direct allegations of racism at progressives merely because we did not change our beliefs, or the way we interact with our government, merely based on the race of the person holding the head office.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
126. A post yesterday had many DU members calling me a racist! Where...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:28 AM
Jun 2013

We're you complaining about that?

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
127. I read the post you are talking about and
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:36 AM
Jun 2013

did not come away with anything other than that racism is part of the equation when it comes to how this President has been treated throughout. That post was written to address another post on the topic of using RW memes when arguing for whatever issue people are in opposition to. No one has a problem with opposition to policy. Jumping to own the title of "racist" is at once counterproductive and abhorrent. Perhaps the people who lined up behind it could speak to those issues with a little less vitriol and without using RW memes.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
139. I am on the receiving end and I don't have a single problem with Manny's post. I do have a damn
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:20 AM
Jun 2013

huge problem with hypocrisy, and your posts in this tread are full of it, IMNSHO.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
151. I did.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:41 AM
Jun 2013

And I still assert that issues related to policy can be accomplished on the left without adopting the RW usage of racism against the President to do so.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
159. Who on the left is 'adopting the RW usage of racism'? Do you have an example?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:59 AM
Jun 2013

How can anyone be 'lefty' and racist at the same time is beyond my understanding, unless your description of 'left' is anyone who is not an open supporter of RW.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
227. Hold on
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jun 2013

You are claiming that those disagreeing with the President on policy matters are (at least sometimes) "adopting the RW usage of racism", have I got that right? So you're saying the very same thing as the OP that Manny is writing about in this OP.

I know I'd sure like to see some examples from DU where people are taking a stance against Obama's policies because he is black.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
189. Manny's 'satire' has been misguided from the begining
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jun 2013

Sometimes clever but almost never very humorous Manny's mission in life is to patronize fellow Democrats that are not in 100% agreement with his sacred point of view. He has a running strawman that he feels is particularly brilliant that he routinely and tediously brings out to heap scorn on supporters of the President for their double standard. Ironically he glosses over the record of President Roosevelt (IMO the greatest elected official of any country at any time) lamenting that Obama is a poor inheritor of the FDR legacy. That is especially ironic in this case where he decries the loss of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution because the President supports the collection of data records on communication patterns that could then be used to identify and pursue potential terrorist suspects. To date no individual American citizen has been identified as having been an actual victim, the concern is based on principle and concern about future use (a legitimate point for rational discussion) . FDR on the other hand authored Executive Order 9066 which authorized the government to establish a zone in 4 states (California, Oregon, Washington and AZ) where Citizens and residents of Japanese were arrested and 140,000 were put into concentration camps and all of their private property stolen. (Oddly enough the order was not extended to Hawaii where the government was monitoring an actual Japanese spy ring the order was not in effect - probably because with 30% of the population of Japanese descent the territory's economy would have collapsed). You may be wondering why one standard for FDR and another for Obama. I don't know that the answer to that but I will say that the divisiveness that Manny relishes in is the Republicans only hope in stopping the left from moving forward.

I am very sorry to hear about your family's struggle with the pain of racism in your family's experience. With my youngest daughter's engagement I now find myself the only Caucasian in our family unit and am pleased to tell you how little racist reaction we seem to get, so at least in some parts progress is being made. I very much appreciated your willingness to share your personal pain on a sensitive subject. Peace.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
334. Thanks Grant....
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:21 PM
Jun 2013

Only once in the more than 11 years I've posted on this board have I been alerted on or had problems w/ the mods until I said I thought the OP was the most annoying Democrat I could think of.
He appears to have special status here at DU and his followers are legion. So, when I see this kind of in your face insulting of me and every black person on this board, I can only shake my head and wonder about all the glee generated in support of the OP.

I can't tell what's in the heart or mind of others, but,having been born 70 years ago in rural Mississippi I think I'm more than qualified to recognize racism when I see or hear it...even when the perpetrator sincerely does not believe or intends it to be.

I read and rec-ed the post regarding possible racist feelings toward the President and thought the OP may have been rather clumsy in his attempt to try and identify the misguided vitriol toward him, but the reaction has been astounding. In response, I posted this:Whiteness, NSA Spying and the Irony of Racial Privilege
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023050699

and wouldn't you know....crickets. Not even willing to consider or discuss.

Hopefully, by the time the grand kids are running the world this kind of stuff will just be history.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
195. The problem with that logic is that when I say that I strongly oppose his
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:04 PM
Jun 2013

attacks on first and fourth amendment rights, I'm called a racist. Where, exactly, do I go to get my reputation back after that kind of attack?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
297. Please check your PM. Thank you for this post.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jun 2013

Though I'm sure you're already aware it will fall on deaf ears and extraordinarily closed minds.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
168. Mock racism that looks like real racism and isn't meant to be funny
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:29 AM
Jun 2013

looks like real racism and really isn't funny.

Autumn

(45,058 posts)
224. You actually read that????
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jun 2013
The only demon I confront is the demon rum, usually twice a week and that SOB wins, every damn time.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
124. Wow, you again, are you an admin or something? How about you...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:26 AM
Jun 2013

Stop trying to control posts you do not like! Alert it or shut up.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
141. It wasn't meant to be funny.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:24 AM
Jun 2013

There are plenty of 'insentive' OPs here that need your attention though, would you consider heading on over and suggesting they be locked up?

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
144. What gave you an idea this OP was intended to be 'funny'?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jun 2013

BTW, if you don't like the OP please feel free to use Alert, Ignore, and Trash features.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
223. If it isn't funny, it's serious, and that would mean the OP is seriously racist,
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:22 PM
Jun 2013

wouldn't it? Is that what you're trying to tell me idwiyo?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
228. If real racism looks the same as "mock" racism, maybe posting mock racism isn't such a good idea.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jun 2013

Ya think?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
291. Stupid ideas need to be mocked. Rush Limbaugh garbage doesn't belong here on DU, and no one
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jun 2013

deserves mocking more than Limbaugh.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
245. Are you familiar with a concept of 'sarcasm'? Your posts make it clear you are not.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:29 PM
Jun 2013

Its nothing to be ashamed about, there are a lot of people who wouldn't recognise sarcasm even when it hits them on a forehead with a two-by-four. May I suggest a little bit of reading:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Sarcasm

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
250. There's no indication of sarcasm visible to me or to the NYT
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jun 2013

should they happen to come calling. That's what I'm trying to make clear. Mock racism looks exactly like real racism and it's a bit of a shock to see it here. Can you understand that?

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
259. Yes, I know you didn't realise OP was sarcastic. That's OK. This is why I suggested you read
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jun 2013

a little bit about sarcasm.

Now, can you please explain to me what does your failure to recognise sarcasm have to do with 'mock racism' and NYT? Or why should I (or anyone for that matter) care about NYT and their implied inability to recognise sarcasm when they see it?

Edited to add: and what is 'mock racism'?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
263. Topical humor is best left to professionals.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jun 2013

And sarcasm is a grossly inappropriate approach to this particular topic. It might seem funny to you and it might play well on TV but to anyone not intimately familiar with Manny's ever-changing persona it looks likes straight-up racism and violates the DU TOS, whatever intentions Manny and his respondents might have.

Now do you get it?

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
265. No, I don't. It takes a very... lets say 'special' kind of very convoluted thinking to conjure
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jun 2013

your type of interpretation of what this OP is about. I do hope there are very few people who are capable of such... lets call it 'unorthodox' leaps of logic.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
306. It just takes a little decency and common sense.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:30 PM
Jun 2013

I wouldn't have thought those were in such short supply.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
347. Judging by the content and quality of your posts... they are indeed. Points fo admiting your
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:37 AM
Jun 2013

shortcomings publicly though.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
121. My girlfriend of two years
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:08 AM
Jun 2013

Whose mother is white and father is AA, thinks it happened right about the time our Democratic president put Social Security on the table. It was kind of the last straw and I became a foaming-at-the-mouth racist from that point on. I also left the Democratic Party, which means I want Republicans to win and I really have no place on DemocraticUnderground any more. Just waiting for the inevitable PPR.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
125. I Was on the Racist
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:27 AM
Jun 2013

spectrum early on during the first campaign when I started to notice that the words being spoken did not seem to say what the liberal interpretations said they said. I think my exact racist comment at the time was, "If this were 1976 he'd be a Republican." Mostly I blamed the interpretors, but hey... I voted with full understanding of that. When Guantanamo didn't close I became a little more of a racist, but I back tracked (walked it back) when some sort of health care reform was passed. The cat food commission definitely increased my bigotry. I then went wild with hatred when I read an editorial written by a member (color unknown) of the administration stating that basically, health insurance was headed for the same type of system as the 401k and that this was inevitable. That was the pinnacle of my racism. The surveillence boondoogle really hasn't increased my racism from that level, because I feel it is more a case of Kool Aid drinking than actual race. In fact, until many DUers equated anti-snoopism with hating Obama, I never really thought of it as an Obama issue. Which also makes me a hypocrite, because I always blamed this snooping on Bush when he was in the White House. Thanks, snoop-deniers!

Oh, wait, I forgot one. Being white, and [gasp] blue-eyed, I am told that I am a racist simply by being alive, so essentially I've been racist since before conception. The very idea of me is racist.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
132. Me too! Which really shocked my interracial family...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:55 AM
Jun 2013

Especially how quickly it happened, less than a year after voting for Obama (The 2nd time), and being upset (again) with Washingtons continued violations of our rights (1st, 4th), other people, strangers in fact, kindly pointed it out to me.

I am working on it though, thank you for your thread

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
136. I read some really awful stuff like Universal Declaration of Human Rights. :(
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:09 AM
Jun 2013

But it didn't stop my descent into racism right there and than...

I became convinced it applies to EVERYONE. No qualifiers, restrictions, etc. I even think it should be applied to non-Human species like Great Apes (just one of the examples) and AI.

I am so sorry...

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
137. I dared to suggest the NSA was breaking the law!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:12 AM
Jun 2013

Why, the minute I did that, my Klan robes and pointy hood came in the mail the very next day!

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
140. Good gawd. Every slight imagined or not leads to a woe is me I'm a victim OP by you.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:22 AM
Jun 2013

The ones you need to feel sorry for you aren't worth the effort.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
147. For me it was supporting an African American Candidate in 2008
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:35 AM
Jun 2013

who said he would change things for the better. I did it again in 2012. But he changed many things in the opposite direction, so I got disappointed. Silly me.

 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
152. As an African-American, I became racist against myself a few weeks ago
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jun 2013

after I read the Fourth Amendment and re-learned the government was spying on us.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
160. My racism has evolved greatly over the last couple of years.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:00 AM
Jun 2013

Not sure exactly when it reared its ugly head. When I hear things like this

"I suspect that, on Social Security, we've got a somewhat similar position. Social Security is structurally sound. It's going to have to be tweaked the way it was by Ronald Reagan and Democratic Speaker Tip O'Neill." - Obama being asked what the major differences between he and Mitt in a debate.

my racist side seems to show itself. You see, I think that what is said by the President actually helps to shape public opinion. I felt racist emotions when he let the public know that the republican presidential candidates position on SS has validity. It is a dark side of me that I try to hide from.

Arming bad people in Syria has also brought out my racist side. New found love for the Patriot Act. Yep, that does it. “What’s she not telling you about her healthcare plan, It forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can’t afford it, and you pay a penalty if you don’t.” - Obama. Shit, at one point we agreed on that. But now that he has evolved I am a racist. My stance against NAFTA, dammit, racist.

Overall it is something that I have become over the last couple of years. Can't really pinpoint the date.


Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
161. It happened to me after I worked my ass off to elect Obama in 2008.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jun 2013

I was okay with black people at that point...

But somewhere along the line, the failure to prosecute or even strongly criticize the war crimes of Bush, the failure to strongly advocate for the public option, the troop surge and increasing death toll in Afghanistan, the bailout of the banksters and the failure to bailout the homeowners, the massive war on drugs, the cutting of the home heating oil assistance program, the appointment of Republicans, the appointment of drug corporatists, the appointment of Wall St. sleazebags, the assault on teachers, the failure to put on comfy shoes and stand up for unions.... it all sort of built up.

And then... I guess I became a racist because it wasn't really all about that. I guess I just realized I don't like black folks like my sister-in-law.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
165. I must have been a racist all along.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:23 AM
Jun 2013

It's apparently racist as hell to hold people who should know better to a higher standard. Maybe it was racist for me to think that he knew better. I'll say one thing for racism, though, it makes a person much more aware of politicians' words and deeds.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
167. It's easier to be tolerant of *those kinds of people* when they deliver the promised pony.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jun 2013

It is one thing to talk about racism within the context of the 30% of the public who won't vote for him no matter what.

It is something else entirely to throw it around here.

"The president of the United States is a victim of racism" is the kind of sentence that brings ones credibility into question.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
170. I was born here, on Planet Terra.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jun 2013

And I'm just incensed with all these illegal aliens taunting us with their anti-gravity ships. I'm so mad at them for never sharing a single bit of their superior technology that I could shout at a cloud!

The CCC

(463 posts)
192. So... how did YOU become a racist?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jun 2013

The Vietnam war. I've had a profound hatred for American Presidents ever since of both political parties.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
193. I was in a sociology class in the 70s. Our Prof said that everyone has some class or race of people
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jun 2013

they do not like and asked us to think about who we did not associate with when we living in our home areas. I was going to say NO ONE until I thought about it.

I came from an almost totally white area of Iowa so it was hard to answer that question. But using the definition for bigotry it was easier. Most of our communities were divided into ethnic groups/religious groups depending on immigration patterns in the past. My great grandparents had been involved in the KKK but not against racial groups instead we hated the Catholics and they hated us. In my school class one of the boys talked about how the Catholics joined the KKK to fight the Protestants and I talked about how my family did for the exact opposite reasons. Our families both had the white robes to prove it.

In the 70s there was no more KKK but we still lived in groups who strongly disagreed on religion - even to the point of not encouraging intermarrying. I had to admit I was no more innocent than anyone else in that class room.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
198. But I'm a Cheerleader
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:08 PM
Jun 2013

I can't be the hateful one, I'm a cheerleader!

All the good people are where I am, cheering our side on.

How can you deny our cheer, can't you hear it's perfect rhyme and reason?

Why are you so full of hate, it must be because of my team's color.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
202. Back in 2008, I said something nice about Hillary Clinton and her campaign during the primaries.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jun 2013

That was the first time I believe someone implied I was a racist.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
207. Are you an NSA plant?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jun 2013

Collecting and reporting on letter writing data for people in this thread?

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
303. Are you a HS grad?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jun 2013

What kind of career puts you in a chair writing these pathetic posts all day?

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
329. No, the NSA hires contractors for their astroturfing operations.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:53 PM
Jun 2013

Which means he doesn't work directly for the government.

Autumn

(45,058 posts)
230. And you would be wrong and talking out of ignorance.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jun 2013

that's what's sad, is that you think you can say something like that when you have no clue.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
249. Your posts don't make much sense.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jun 2013

Objectively, how do you know who we are and how much we write to Congress? I mean seriously, how could you POSSIBLY know that? I'm really, truly curious.

If there is no way you could possibly know, why take it upon yourself to criticize, without cause, 200 people who are ostensibly your allies? You ARE a Democrat, right? but you actively seek to insult and possibly make enemies of other Democrats? Why? Truly, why?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
205. When, in '08, before being elected,
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jun 2013

Barack Obama told FOX News that Republicans "got" education better than Democrats.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
208. I just generally dislike the Portuguese.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jun 2013

And sometimes Australian aborigines really set me off. And anyone who speaks Esperanto. Other than that, I'm accepting of pretty much everyone. Oh yeah, except for Canadians.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
219. I was born this way. I got my dark skinned mixed race female LGBT Yellowdog
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jun 2013

bleeding heart tolerant hippie radical liberal social worker anti-fascist racism directly in the womb, apparently.

This should be completely evident from my sig line below.

Born This Way ~ Lady Gaga

Don't be a drag, just be a queen
Whether you're broke or evergreen
You're black, white, beige, chola descent
You're Lebanese, you're orient
Whether life's disabilities
Left you outcast, bullied, or teased
Rejoice and love yourself today
'cause baby you were born this way

No matter gay, straight, or bi,
Lesbian, transgendered life,
I'm on the right track baby,
I was born to survive.
No matter black, white or beige
Chola or orient made,
I'm on the right track baby,
I was born to be brave.

I was born this way hey!
I was born this way hey!
I'm on the right track baby
I was born this way hey!

Same DNA, but born this way.
Same DNA, but born this way.
------------------------------
Pretty, pretty please, don't you ever ever feel, like you're less than, fuckin' perfect, to me.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
222. I guess it was when I realized that health care was a right due to all citizens of the US
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jun 2013

and that we each had an obligation to all in that regard, and all had an obligation to each. I could not square this belief with the way the heinous "Obamacare" act force-fed people into the jaws of an abusive financial racket, enlisted the coercive powers of government into the service of that racket making no effort to control costs, and absolutely denied health care as anything like a human right, but instead condemned all to the racket's cradle to grave predation.

Ever since then, kind people, who know better than I, have been informing me that my real reason for believing health care is a human right due to every citizen is because I am in fact a racist.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
229. Perhaps when I didn't condemn Joe Biden for...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:28 PM
Jun 2013

referring to Obama as "articulate"?

I mean, really, we were coming off of 8 years of this:



and "articulate" was high up on my pony list.

Shoot me.

richmwill

(1,326 posts)
234. Call me a racist? Just leave, and here- Let me hold the door open for you...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:39 PM
Jun 2013

Let's start THAT debate again...

frylock

(34,825 posts)
242. i think it was after the second time i voted for obama that i realized i was a racist..
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jun 2013

sure, it dawned on me in 2008, when I was buying up Obama shirts, posters, and decals, and donating money directly to the campaign, that perhaps I was bigoted.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
247. During the Bush Administration
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jun 2013

I was trendy then, now I'm a racist because I'm not fond of the Patriot Act. It's funny how civil rights go out of style.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
258. I read articles by Cornel West, Tavis Smiley, and Charles Blow...all critical of President Obama
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

The 3 of those guys are most definitely racist toward Obama, so I thought I'd be a racist, just like them.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
268. My parents always taught me better and my Grandparents lived in an all black neighborhood
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jun 2013

in Washington D,C.. I played all day with all black kids and none of us cared. In the late 1950's my older brother and his friend (whom had married a black girl) went to Mississippi to work on voter registration drives. I'm so tired of this "racist" meme.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
275. I love that song and Utada Hikaru ..
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jun 2013

When I first heard it, I knew exactly where she was coming from!

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
270. when i went through mississippi when i was a kid in the 50`s
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jun 2013

those "colored only" or "white only" signs made me realize just how privileged i am.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
271. When I decided to enter a half marathon.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jun 2013

A full marathon was just too much. I discriminated against longer races....

Oh, we talking about favouring one human versus another because of their historical ancestry? Please. Fill me in.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
274. I'm a proud racist!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jun 2013

I don't like NASCAR, Drag Racing, boat racing, Three legged sack races. I don't like track or hurdles. I don't like races of any sort. I don't even like the Kentucky Derby.

bluesbassman

(19,371 posts)
272. It was when I acknowledged the fact that I am an unwilling participant in the race to the bottom.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:36 PM
Jun 2013

Or does that make me a merely racer?

I'm so confused now...

janlyn

(735 posts)
285. When I realized due to my multi racial heritage
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jun 2013

that if I couldn't find someone to argue with I could insult myself. The hispanic side of myself could accuse the Irish/Scottish side of racism. And the German protestant side of my ancestry could call the Sephardi Jewish side a Jesus killer.

So much easier than having to pick a fight with a complete stranger !

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
290. Ever since a bunch of white kids kicked my ass because of my black girlfriend...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jun 2013

this was in 1967 and i hated white people ever since.

oh, yeah- and i'm white.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
293. Are you serious?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jun 2013

You're been ranting against this President for years and now you're trying to claim that it's only been the last few weeks that you've been critical of him. I don't know if you're a racist. Only you know that. But it seems that someone hit a nerve with you.

JustAnotherGen

(31,813 posts)
310. Look down thread
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jun 2013

I was single for 39 years and I've dated enough races, ethnicities and foreigners to have an opinion and anecdotal story or two.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
343. he was also dismissive of FDR and internment camps
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:25 AM
Jun 2013

when someone brought that up when he keeps trying to hold FDR up.

i find this to happen a lot. people attacking Obama while dismissing things others did , including wingnuts like the Pauls who would have opposed civil rights acts.

JustAnotherGen

(31,813 posts)
309. I was 19
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jun 2013

He was 34 and over here from United Arab Emirates - the only male out of 13 children trying to avoid scud missiles.

I didn't become an ageist for another 16 years.

Looked around and realized I had way too many rich ex's in their 50's.

Maybe I should post this in the Woman's World group.

Hilarity and laughter ensues.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
314. I think a lot of us became racists the same way we became anti-semites
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:00 PM
Jun 2013

If you criticize someone's policies, you must be blinded by racism or religious prejudice, even if a lot of members of the group you supposedly dislike agree with your criticism.

I wonder what group I hate because I think George Lucas screwed up the last three Star Wars movies. I guess I'm an anti-wookite now.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
315. Some of us
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jun 2013

Never said people against Obama were racist,
any more than we were Sexist for opposing St.Hillary back in 2008.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
316. I grew up in the state in which the electorate recalled an outstanding US Senator for having had the
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jun 2013

temerity to support civil rights. My maternal grandfather had been his (Al Gore, Sr.') early campaign manager. That grandfather and my father left me without a racist story to tell. I am grateful and salute them both.

Liberal_Dog

(11,075 posts)
325. I Haven Given This Some Serious Thought
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:44 PM
Jun 2013

It goes back to when I was in the womb.

I remember fantasizing about Raquel Welch while masturbating.

And then I stopped.

I remember thinking, "How could I be fantasizing about Raquel Welch?? I have never seen her and have no idea who she even is. This is some seriously f**ked up s**t."

I hope that explains things.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
331. I think it was when Van Jones was asked to fall on his sword
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jun 2013

Before that I'd walked, spent money, phone banked, and voted to get a black man elected president. But after Van was sacked I swore I'd never vote for another black man.

Wait a minute. That can't be right. I walked, spent money, phone banked, and voted to get a black man elected president again last year. It must have been some time in the last 7 months. Kind of late in life to become a racist, but it must be true, since I read it in GD

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