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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo... how did YOU become a racist?
I think it's time for some personal stories. Cautionary tales.
In my case, I read the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution, and am told that I immediately flew into a rage against African-Americans.
How about you?
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:12 PM - Edit history (1)
and African American grandmother.
Or maybe my Northern European mother.
Or quite possibly my indigenous American wife.
Apperantly I was bread to be a racist.
I remember them all saying, judge a person by their skin color and not by what they do.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Possibly a croissant.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)Thanks.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)marble falls
(57,079 posts)kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)it leaves a sour dough taste in the mouth.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)But I hope it's not something that's on the rise.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)than to pinch a loaf...
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Of the epic variety.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)carla
(553 posts)"world food pocket"....
Logical
(22,457 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)The racism OP was offensive and deserves to be mocked.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)program going on in the US on the American people. Which is a crime under the US Constitution.
All the other talking points failed to defend it. When that happens, there are only two possible charges, and these two are reserved for Liberals, they wouldn't work on Right Wingers since they actually apply to them.
One is to call a 'liberal a 'racist' Rush Limbaugh eg, does it all the time.
If that fails, watch for 'anti-women'. Obama = pro women, those who disagree with the surveillance of Americans = anti-women. There is no logic to any of it, but there is not meant to be, it is meant to distract.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)What a load of bullshit.
In typical fashion.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)the team?
East Coast Pirate
(775 posts)but so far they only let me be equipment manager.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Glad you have enough integrity to admit it in public. Very commendable.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)and knee jerk outrage.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
So who's on deck for next swat? The swarm feels a bit light.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)disagreement with the current president of US.
Bravo!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Care to explain that?
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)What kind of extra crispy tossed word salad was that?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Can't blame you though, we all to 'watch what we say' these days!
frylock
(34,825 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)same question.
There are still a few swarm members missing their shot at me.
frylock
(34,825 posts)I hate to see a good persecution complex go to waste.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Funny stuff.... you just offered the perfect description of this thread.
Unintentional irony at it's finest.
frylock
(34,825 posts)like the person that keeps throwing the term "ratfucker" around, I don't think you know what that word means. good day.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)
I know exactly what it means. Condescension noted.
As far as being "out of my league," I'll take that as a complement. Your "league" is not one that I would want to be associated with.....and yes, I know what that phrase means as well.
You can take your arrogance and sell it elsewhere.
Understand?
Oh and btw..... When you see this particular punctuation (!11!) following a word or phrase on DU, it denotes mocking. Again, your teammate tried to use the term "projection" upthread in an effort to form some kind of response.
frylock
(34,825 posts)you know, memes and whutnots. I mean, I don't know fuckall. i'm just a lowly systems admin who's been fucking around on the web for 17 or so years. and good for you on your social work. I really do mean that. I volunteer down at the foodbank, so I do typically look highly upon those that make an effort to better the lives of those less fortunate. but that still doesn't change the fact that your assigning the term of psychological projection to my reply when it simply doesn't apply. furthermore, i'm not on any "team." you see, I don't look at politics as some type of "team" sport. too many people have an us-against-them attitude, and lose sight of policy, deciding instead to focus on personality. again, I bid you a good day.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)My use of the term in reference to this.
As long as we're sharing here....
I've been a clinical social worker for 25 years. I have an undergrad degree in psych, and a masters in social work. Although I've done my time in homeless and youth shelters, much of my work as been as an outpatient therapist. So I know my way around a number of psychological terms much like the way you know your way around teh interwebs.
So when you admonish me for the inappropriate use of the term "projection," it strikes me as odd, considering the way it is frequently used around here as a throwaway line to mean; "I know what you are, but what am I."
Clearly I was swarmed in this thread, and I can handle that, but for you to proceed to tell me that I'm "out of my league," as if I'm some sort of dumbass, or unable to hang with the "crowd," that crossed the line for me.
Anyway...good day to you as well.
Number23
(24,544 posts)A Mob of Mindlessness. And you had just the right sized can of Raid to deal with it.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)average IQs of any college graduates. I'm not suggesting you're out of your league, but it would be nice to hear a cogent argument in defense of your position rather than all the snarky insults. If you can do something like that.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Your post just won the race to the bottom.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)It was easy. Being offensive and insulting requires little skill.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)You're honestly asking me to provide a "cogent argument" in THIS fucking thread?
Seriously?
Brilliant. No, this thread is nothing BUT snark.
Just Saying
(1,799 posts)There's no discussing this actual issue without name calling on both sides and more time is spent here figuring out ways to insult those who don't see things exactly like you do than anything else.
And silly me I thought only rightwingers "debated" like this.
And in case you didnt know, this website has the awesome feature to trash threads.
Good luck out there!
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I just knew he was famous
Logical
(22,457 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)and you've contributed most of it. Very entertaining in an adolescent sort of way.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)and you're fixated on mine?
Welcome to the team! Tag up, professor.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Had you looked above the first post and seen the number you wouldn't have needed to try and count them one at a time.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)So tired of all the cries from folks claiming to be victims here on DU...It reminds me of Christians in America always claiming that they're victims of persecution. SAD!!
I will join in...
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)For some reason these shredded junior terrorists pushed me over the edge.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And love the terrorists.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)I became a racist when I found out there were no advocates for single-payer health insurance at the bargaining table when that was all decided for us. I became a double racist when I found out OBama had put SS and Medicare on the bargaining table. I became a ne plus ultra racist when I found out that the spying and eavesdropping policies of Bush had been continued, and enhanced.
Boo yeah.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)If you don't believe in Obama 100%, it's because of his race.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)He does not like that. Vocally.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)It was when I realized I wasn't gonna get my pony.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)... and refused to ever acknowledge that accomplishing those goals meant a shit ton of hard work.
You?
pkdu
(3,977 posts)I've read one OP that put that forth....it's somehow become the FauxNews sound bite of Many on DU.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)xoom
(322 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)Not living your beliefs is generally known as selling out.
I've never had much use for the Excuse Makers.
That is why I love the OLD Democratic Party Leadership like FDR, HST, and LBJ...
NO EXCUSES, but especially no excuses accepted for NOT fighting.
When LBJ did the right thing in 1964,
and signed the Civil Rights Act is when I had the epiphany.
There is NO valid excuse for NOT doing the Right Thing.
You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS,[/font]
not by their excuses.
[font color=firebrick size=3][center]"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."
--- Paul Wellstone[/font][/center]
[center][/font]
[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center][/font]
[font size=5 color=firebrick]Solidarity![/font]
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and bastardized into something called American
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)eom
marble falls
(57,079 posts)kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)I guess they're board with us.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)marble falls
(57,079 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Make English our offical language.
progressoid
(49,984 posts)But the NSA thing forced me out of the closet.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Of all the things, eh?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Sorry about your nom de web, too.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Your apology has been noted.
And recorded.
And filed away.
Seriously, you should see my cabinets around this place. Can't exactly Public Storage you lot.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Jerry, is that you?
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)bear some sort of accountability for it.
Silly me!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Wow.
QC
(26,371 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)The Link
(757 posts)and one minority parent.
merrily
(45,251 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)and started trotting out the racist card to try and silence those who are the heretics and non-believers, I realized this NSA business has not only caused cognitive disturbance, but drove some of them plain batty.
If it isn't grand conspiracy theories involving the entire worlds' media united against Obama, it is something else equally nuts, like racists everywhere they look.
Can you say, way too much kool-aid?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I guess you have a ways to go.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Here's you explaining HClinton's IWR vote.
Kool-aid anyone?
28. well, maybe she had to do that for her political career. She is a woman, and she has to appear strong. I am not excusing it, just saying she might have had reasons. And it was not a pivotal vote she made either, in terms of the numbers. If she had opposed it, that would have made no difference in how it came out.
link to this gem: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2593794
Dash87
(3,220 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And family history. You'd be surprised how intolerant you become of data mining when family members died due the collection of data at that mythical time we are not supposed to remember.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)By disagreeing with the president on the Afghanistan War
By being frustrated at the Administration's foot dragging on DADT
By seeing Guantanamo still open more than a half decade after we were told it would close
By seeing the precedent for drone strikes on American citizens abroad enacted and the further gutting of habeas corpus
By recognizing that the government is more concerned with spying on environmentalists and OWS then prosecuting bankers
By seeing that we now accept tar sands as an acceptable energy solution apparently
By realizing that we still don't have an ENDA and do have an Administration that hasn't fought for it
By realizing that the most transparent Administration in decades is a fraudulent claim
By seeing the continuation of the Bush economic policy
By seeing the continuation of the Bush education policy
By seeing the continuation of the Bush drug policy
By suggesting the fleecing of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as a budget balancing solution
By seeing secret free trade agreements going to be rammed through without Congressional debate
By seeing "clean" coal being used as an alternative energy source for the United States in a Democratic State of the Union Address
And probably several other things like failure to act on single payer, no-bid contracts to private military and arms contractors, and so on and so forth.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Such hatred for our black friends.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]
merrily
(45,251 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)you should start your own version of The List. When you do, please add
By seeing political prisoner Don Siegelmann left to rot in prison
By seeing a nominal (D) president side with management over labor
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)I was clutching my pearls on my imaginary pony.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)At a point for me it wasn't even about Warren, it was about the words some used to defend it. It wasn't just a couple of posters either. Many of the words were completely hateful. If I had the reaction to them that I did, I cannot imagine reading them if you were a part of any group they were aimed at. I realized something that I wasn't aware of during that time. I realized that many don't care or understand the importance of the promotion of equality at all times. That was a landmark moment in the history of the US. Many also don't care about their brothers and sisters, who are willing to fight tooth and nail for progressive causes, when they are under attack. Actually quite the opposite, many went on the attack. So while you were being told that you were clutching your pearls and looking for your imaginary pony, many people such as myself learned a lot. It gave me a much better understanding with respect to how brutal and personal the fight for equality is. I am not trying to make light of the situation by making it about me. I just want to let you know that some of us learned a lot and were watching with open eyes.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)were summarily trounced, and basically told to STFU. I guess that should have been a harbinger.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)After this:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00168
Measure Number: H.R. 6304 (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 )
Measure Title: A bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to establish a procedure for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign intelligence, and for other purposes.
Obama (D-IL), Yea
merrily
(45,251 posts)Not his fault that we did not ask him what he meant by "fix."
Logical
(22,457 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)It led down a dark thread.
From out of nowhere, self-referential blue links appeared and were everywhere around my reply.
They kept pointing and pointing - full of text and assertion yet signifying nothing.
Hydra-like, if one were addressed, ten more would sprout in its place.
...Pointing and pointing...Always pointing...Always regressing...Away from the OP and off towards infinity...
Only then did I realize my shameful problem.
It has been a struggle, but I am no longer made mad by the policies of this Administration - all of which now make perfect sense.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)DUer xocet
June 20, 2012
It led down a dark thread.
From out of nowhere, self-referential blue links appeared and were everywhere around my reply.
They kept pointing and pointing - full of text and assertion yet signifying nothing.
Hydra-like, if one were addressed, ten more would sprout in its place.
...Pointing and pointing...Always pointing...Always regressing...Away from the OP and off towards infinity...
Only then did I realize my shameful problem.
It has been a struggle, but I am no longer made mad by the policies of this Administration - all of which now make perfect sense.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023051604#post40
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)I actually tried following those blue links once. Most of them led to other posts of the same poster. And those other posts also contained blue links that led to more other posts of the same poster. And those more other posts of the same poster also contained other blue links that led to still more other posts of the same poster. And those still more other posts of the same poster....
Oh, wait, you're right. Infinity.
never mind.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Pholus
(4,062 posts)Professionally designed by someone.
It all makes sense.
xocet
(3,871 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)that they were out to get me...and I was right.That day I became a racist
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:52 AM - Edit history (1)
treestar
(82,383 posts)And unfairly compared him to dead white ones who were allegedly better than he, but had much more Dem Congresses at a time of much more political will, when white privilege of the time meant they could get more respect - and found the black one of the 21st century, subject to constant filibuster of every little thing by Republicans (with race as a likely factor), to simply be spineless and various other negative characterizations?
merrily
(45,251 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"There there is only one right you do not have. And people who give no credit to Obama for what he did already while making as if it is the only issue that matters are just wrong. There's always going to be some new demand. I am a woman and we don't have all our rights all the time, or some are threatened, but this is the US where we can talk about it, protest and I don't go around saying I have no rights. Not when looking at women in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia for instance.
If I am a bigot for caring about other issues, then fine. I don't think gay marriage is the only civil rights issue there is. Or the only issue that matters. And there is free speech. And the rest of the bill of rights. You should be ashamed for not caring about anyone or anything else."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2952192
treestar
(82,383 posts)This OP is about racism.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Sorry that bothers you as it very clearly does. You claim we have 'plenty of rights'. People need to read for context, they can decide if you have a clue about equality, justice, courtesy....
It is a great thread for you. Be proud.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And people are bigots because they don't concern themselves with only your issue?
Yes you do have rights. In my state, you have every right, including marriage.
You have one issue only. You post about that one issue in any thread, you find a way to relate it. And if you keep reposting my post in unrelated threads, I think possibly you could get alerted on/banned. You are stalking. You hate me because I care about many issues and not just yours.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)There is NO marriage equality anywhere in the US because that equality lies in Federal law. So we do not have every right in any American State. Your claims are false, your characterizations are venomous and without basis.
I posted your words about equal rights for minorities. Your words. 'you have plenty of rights'. Own it, it is what you think.
treestar
(82,383 posts)That is what the thread is about.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Let me tell you this treestar. My work is such that I have spent funds to hire security because of death threats from folks who call me 'race traitor'. Hate letters, endless hate letters, from racists and homophobes, to be blunt dear, they are indistinguishable one from the other when they are ranting. Hate is hate. Those who excuse discrimination are purveyors of that hate. Show me one who excuses homophobia, you show me a person who will excuse racism. That is a fact.
To repeat, you don't know my life. You do not know who I love, who have been my mentors and and my peers, who raised me, who formed my identity as a gay man and as an artist.
My posting life on DU is here to search, you should do so. So should any and everyone. I invite them to.
Your posts are also here to look at. You do not want yours seen. I'm fine with mine. Think about that. I am proud of my life, my work and my words. You get snarky when you are quoted. Think about that.
Quote me all day. I know my heart, you on the other hand, do not.
treestar
(82,383 posts)But you are spamming threads with unrelated subjects.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Like accusing surveillance opponents of racism?
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)of them are equally important and must not be compromised on EVER is totally beyond me.
Isn't it what fight for equality is about?
Its incomprehensible that you INSIST post after post after post that this 'one issue' of equality is not important enough to always be on the forefront, yet at the same time you profess how deeply you care about eradicating racism.
To me it starting to look like you believe that LGBTQ community consists of white rich males only, and the only thing they care about is getting married, nothing else (because they already have all other rights, according to you).
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)marginalised minorities think and care about.
It IS bigotry when LGBTQ minority is told to shut up and be happy because they already have more rights in US than in Iran or SA (for an example).
I don't even know what to call someone who would accuse another person of being a racist because they dare to demand equal rights for everyone.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)I'll just be kind and say you are very, very ignorant, and you have zero excuse for being so seeing how prolific you are around here.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)minorities into voting for them by bribing them with Welfare. He told me liberals want to keep minorities dependent on them so they keep giving them stuff.
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)Guilty as charged.
toddaa
(2,518 posts)As we all know, criticism of free trade and spying on civilians often goes hand in hand with holocaust denial and reading Charles Murray books.
merrily
(45,251 posts)When Obama ran against Hillary, Toni said she had only been joking about Bill, but disagreeing with Bill on the issues still counts as racism.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)It works best when used to gay males, but can be almost as condescending to anyone.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)That and my little pony, because they are so sure of how cute they are.
merrily
(45,251 posts)going beyond tried and true things like "poutrage," "racist," "epic fail," "pony," etc. would require original thought. Using the tried and true things from the past is what any true conservative, I mean, Democrat, would do.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Some here are still pumping gas into Granny it appears.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)equal rights and basic decency are.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Common Sense, Reality Based Community
TDale313
(7,820 posts)They tried that one for a while. Didn't really catch on- I think cause some of us actually kinda liked it
Enrique
(27,461 posts)a true non-racist would have changed all of his views to match Obama's.
merrily
(45,251 posts)No true Democrat would have clung to principles.
You disgust me.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)So I ask you now Manny. are you now. or have you ever been a member of the Obama haters club?
And for the rest of you, you can avoid all of this probating by taking the Obama loyalty oath and posting your disgust with those who question his polices...that is the path to take if you want instant love and acceptance by the Never Question The Leader club
kitt6
(516 posts)last. American Indians with headdress told all of us to go home. They said it was too much smoke in the air. But we didn't know where to go.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)but it turns out I was just suffering from some massive white privilege complex, as was explained in about 100 different articles that all happened to jump on that idea at the same time.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)that say that white people are racist just for being born white. I mean, come on, I know "white privilege" is an issue, but this approach takes it WAAAAAYYYY too far.....it's like saying all Jews are anti-Arab just because of how some rightist Israeli governments have treated Palestinians, or that all Japanese are anti-Ainu because Ainu people can still be discriminated against sometimes. I mean, seriously.....
(P.S. no, it wasn't from anybody on this board.)
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,354 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:40 AM - Edit history (1)
Thanks for the thread, Manny.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)since I was 6 years old. I am now 74, so I have seen plenty of racism, such as separate bathrooms, water fountains, blacks having to sit in the back of buses, not allowed into white restaurants and movie theaters and school segregation. But attitudes change when you age.
Uncle Joe
(58,354 posts)I was just be sarcastic in keeping with my perception of the spirit of the OP.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)in turn I was also accused of being a racist.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Correction; it was Quinnox, I defended. I later defended Cali after whe was called Madame Obamahater by another poster.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)I looked at the facts in a certain murder case and concluded a certain celebrity defendant was guilty. Having said that that was what I thought, I instantly became a racist. Being a fellow with Korean children, Japanese nephews, Mexican cousins and a distant relative who's black, that hurt.
More recently, like you, I read the Fourth Amendment. Of course, I read the Fourth Amendment and memorized it with the rest of the Constitution when I was in eighth grade, which was even before that certain celebrity murder defendant played running back at USC. Now when a couple of dippy white presidents acted like they either hadn't read or didn't understand it (in fact one of them I was pretty sure couldn't read at all, in spite of getting a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard), I cried bloody murder and demanded that their heads roll. That almost happened to one of those two dippy white presidents, but he chickened out and resigned; the illiterate one got off free for no good reason except that Congress chickened out.
Now that we have a black president, I am suddenly a racist when I scream bloody murder about him acting like he's never read or understood the Fourth Amendment (and I am even absolutely certain that this fellow can read). Nevertheless, I've screamed bloody murder because he is collecting information of all us Americans, regardless of whether any particular one of us is suspected of doing anything wrong, just as I did when those two dippy white Republican jack asses did it. So, I guess I am a racist because I make no distinction between a white Republican or a black Democrat who violates the Fourth Amendment.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)And then I asked for a trade policy that would benefit the working class, and I got the TPP instead.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)as a path to deficit reduction.
merrily
(45,251 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Seems he had an agenda from the start, re: entitlement reform.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)By the time I got to your post, I had become tougher.
Not only are you racist, you're a Republican troll. No true Democrat in modern times would have supported Kucinich. He's not DLC.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I wanted a FLOTUS with a British accent and flowing red hair and a POTUS that looked like a Hobbit.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Under Bush it was s&m/b&d and "hot military studs".
When Palin came along it was all MILF, all the time.
Just think of all the midget sex we've missed.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Come to think of it, there was a lot of screwing going on.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I read the 1st and 4th Amendments of that racist manifesto known as the Bill of Rights, and I was hooked.
merrily
(45,251 posts)If you were a real Democrat, knowledge of good and evil would give you nothing but indigestion.
Get thee away from me, Republican.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)is when confronted with evil they bury their heads in the sand and scream "nyah, nyah, nyah, I can't hear you" to the messenger, and then hit the alert button. Good little germans, but pathetic human beings. Prescott Busch would be proud of them.
merrily
(45,251 posts)We're all good Germans. Either that, or we should have STFU about "good Germans" after WWII.
According to us, the German citizens were to blame because they saw what was happening and failed to stop Hitler.
So, tell me, what could they have done to stop him? I think we owe them a mega apology for the guilt trip we threw on them, but most of them are dead by now. Well, at least their descendants demonstrated when Obama spoke recently. Demonstrations in Hong Kong, too. In the U.S., though? All Quiet on the Western Front.
Sorry to go all serious on you, but I have been thinking about that a lot in recent months.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Apologies if it struck too close.
My family background is German, though my mom's side left about 400 and my dad's side in the later 1800s. I can fully understand how Germany accepted Hitler. The economy was in shambles, Hitler promised better. Hitler created division by blaming Jews, Gypsies, and Homosexuals (interesting irony there), thus creating a bogeyman for the population to hate. Propaganda was effective, and the truth suppressed. I too wondered how and why those who eye-witnessed the truth didn't manage to spread the word (even in secret). Then I saw similar begin to incubate here, and understood. Some Germans were simply struggling to get by...if keeping your job meant keeping your eyes closed, sobeit. Others bought into the propaganda, either by willfull ignorance, gullible ignorance, or in the hope of bettering their social status. Those who saw or suspected the truth, and opposed the evil, were simply out-numbered...and to speak out was suicide....and a death sentence for their family. Thats how it happened.
merrily
(45,251 posts)even though Idid not become a racist like the rest of you racists.
kiva
(4,373 posts)Or maybe it was when Social Security got put on the table. No, I'm pretty sure it was when it became apparent that none of the banksters were going to be held accountable for the financial meltdown.
Thinking about it, though, I suspect it was when I failed to gush over the swimsuit pictures.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)invented by white men to keep black people down and subjugated. I was told there is a difference between using it with an "-er" and an "-a," to which I said pronunciation differences do not change the root and meaning of the world.
I was told I was a racist for not understanding black culture. I asked if people here Jews using anti-Semetic phrases to talk to other Jews. . .I was then told I was anti-Semetic (I'm Jewish) for using those words to prove my point.
So I am a racist, anti-Semetic Jew.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)(or least jerk) often times. If I really went back and cataloged all the things people on DU called me...it would be an utter waste of my time. Seriously there was a really good one a few days back. The post was hidden 6-0.
MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)when I was teaching elementary school in Watts, and my (black) principal kept trying to downplay educational expectations using the phrase "black kids can't..."
and I told him "Will you shut up before they start believing you?"
Brigid
(17,621 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)We all knew the principal had a double-standard for black teachers vs white ones, but could not do anything to prove it.
About four years after I quit public school teaching to go into industrial education, I bumped into my one of my former colleagues, who informed me that the principal got moved to a bigger school with more teachers, and accidentally admitted his view that only black teachers can be effective in the ghetto. The approximately 25 white teachers in his new staff of approximately 50 teachers did not take kindly to this.
He was definitely a moron. My third graders knew more about effective teaching strategies than he did (and demonstrated it).
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)And there is no cure for it once you've read it.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Actually I think the Rick Warren thing was the first time I actually got accused of being racist. Prior to that I'd only ever been accused of being racist by stupid right wingers insisting I hated white people because I wasn't also a stupid right winger.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)you are an outrage junkie and a leftist who wants a socialist revolution. Admittedly your screen name is that of a right wing stalking horse but I do not think you either a racist or an agent provocateur, just someone who didn't bother actually reading 1984 critically.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)You forgot attention whore.
Otherwise, not a bad characterization.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Now that you've pointed it out, I've got to meet Manny in person.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)And to me it seems a little insensitive. Would you consider locking it up?
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I'm not sure why you think it might be.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Unless you've been on the receiving end or have witnessed someone who has been on the receiving end of racism, this claptrap apparently passes as acceptable on DU now. Having been through a very difficult period of several years dealing with racism directed at my husband, I don't find it either good satire or funny. Those who rushed to claim victimhood at once have diminished themselves and have given comfort to those elements of society using race to subvert any agenda held by the left. Racism is a real issue in this society and has been used consistently by the right to undermine this President. It is disgusting to see people purporting to be on the left rush to do the same thing. The point could have been made by simply asking what the turning point in supporting the President was for the individual.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)that's been getting a fair number of recs.
That said, you make good points.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)that carrying the RW's water for them does no one any good. Certainly, it denigrates the very people who are part of our extended coalition and discounts the experiences of many in communities across the nation. There is no way that you can employ the notion of racism as it relates to either the President or any policy that doesn't make you look like you are hypocritical in support of democratic principles. Thank you for considering what I have said and I would encourage you to reread that OP you refer to and to consider what was actually being said there.
Ms. Toad
(34,065 posts)And suggest that the same applies when you (speaking generically to all who have) direct allegations of racism at progressives merely because we did not change our beliefs, or the way we interact with our government, merely based on the race of the person holding the head office.
Logical
(22,457 posts)We're you complaining about that?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)did not come away with anything other than that racism is part of the equation when it comes to how this President has been treated throughout. That post was written to address another post on the topic of using RW memes when arguing for whatever issue people are in opposition to. No one has a problem with opposition to policy. Jumping to own the title of "racist" is at once counterproductive and abhorrent. Perhaps the people who lined up behind it could speak to those issues with a little less vitriol and without using RW memes.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)you weaken your argument.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)huge problem with hypocrisy, and your posts in this tread are full of it, IMNSHO.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)When you levy a charge, you should at least give a reason.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)And I still assert that issues related to policy can be accomplished on the left without adopting the RW usage of racism against the President to do so.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)How can anyone be 'lefty' and racist at the same time is beyond my understanding, unless your description of 'left' is anyone who is not an open supporter of RW.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)You are claiming that those disagreeing with the President on policy matters are (at least sometimes) "adopting the RW usage of racism", have I got that right? So you're saying the very same thing as the OP that Manny is writing about in this OP.
I know I'd sure like to see some examples from DU where people are taking a stance against Obama's policies because he is black.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Sometimes clever but almost never very humorous Manny's mission in life is to patronize fellow Democrats that are not in 100% agreement with his sacred point of view. He has a running strawman that he feels is particularly brilliant that he routinely and tediously brings out to heap scorn on supporters of the President for their double standard. Ironically he glosses over the record of President Roosevelt (IMO the greatest elected official of any country at any time) lamenting that Obama is a poor inheritor of the FDR legacy. That is especially ironic in this case where he decries the loss of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution because the President supports the collection of data records on communication patterns that could then be used to identify and pursue potential terrorist suspects. To date no individual American citizen has been identified as having been an actual victim, the concern is based on principle and concern about future use (a legitimate point for rational discussion) . FDR on the other hand authored Executive Order 9066 which authorized the government to establish a zone in 4 states (California, Oregon, Washington and AZ) where Citizens and residents of Japanese were arrested and 140,000 were put into concentration camps and all of their private property stolen. (Oddly enough the order was not extended to Hawaii where the government was monitoring an actual Japanese spy ring the order was not in effect - probably because with 30% of the population of Japanese descent the territory's economy would have collapsed). You may be wondering why one standard for FDR and another for Obama. I don't know that the answer to that but I will say that the divisiveness that Manny relishes in is the Republicans only hope in stopping the left from moving forward.
I am very sorry to hear about your family's struggle with the pain of racism in your family's experience. With my youngest daughter's engagement I now find myself the only Caucasian in our family unit and am pleased to tell you how little racist reaction we seem to get, so at least in some parts progress is being made. I very much appreciated your willingness to share your personal pain on a sensitive subject. Peace.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)and congrats on your daughter's engagement!
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Only once in the more than 11 years I've posted on this board have I been alerted on or had problems w/ the mods until I said I thought the OP was the most annoying Democrat I could think of.
He appears to have special status here at DU and his followers are legion. So, when I see this kind of in your face insulting of me and every black person on this board, I can only shake my head and wonder about all the glee generated in support of the OP.
I can't tell what's in the heart or mind of others, but,having been born 70 years ago in rural Mississippi I think I'm more than qualified to recognize racism when I see or hear it...even when the perpetrator sincerely does not believe or intends it to be.
I read and rec-ed the post regarding possible racist feelings toward the President and thought the OP may have been rather clumsy in his attempt to try and identify the misguided vitriol toward him, but the reaction has been astounding. In response, I posted this:Whiteness, NSA Spying and the Irony of Racial Privilege
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023050699
and wouldn't you know....crickets. Not even willing to consider or discuss.
Hopefully, by the time the grand kids are running the world this kind of stuff will just be history.
SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)attacks on first and fourth amendment rights, I'm called a racist. Where, exactly, do I go to get my reputation back after that kind of attack?
JustAnotherGen
(31,813 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Though I'm sure you're already aware it will fall on deaf ears and extraordinarily closed minds.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)We've been found out:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023049348
and we need to confront our demons.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)that dreck? I'm impressed.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)looks like real racism and really isn't funny.
Autumn
(45,058 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Stop trying to control posts you do not like! Alert it or shut up.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)There are plenty of 'insentive' OPs here that need your attention though, would you consider heading on over and suggesting they be locked up?
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)BTW, if you don't like the OP please feel free to use Alert, Ignore, and Trash features.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)wouldn't it? Is that what you're trying to tell me idwiyo?
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Hint: trick question.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Ya think?
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Hint: same trick question.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)deserves mocking more than Limbaugh.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)idwiyo
(5,113 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Its nothing to be ashamed about, there are a lot of people who wouldn't recognise sarcasm even when it hits them on a forehead with a two-by-four. May I suggest a little bit of reading:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Sarcasm
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)should they happen to come calling. That's what I'm trying to make clear. Mock racism looks exactly like real racism and it's a bit of a shock to see it here. Can you understand that?
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)a little bit about sarcasm.
Now, can you please explain to me what does your failure to recognise sarcasm have to do with 'mock racism' and NYT? Or why should I (or anyone for that matter) care about NYT and their implied inability to recognise sarcasm when they see it?
Edited to add: and what is 'mock racism'?
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)And sarcasm is a grossly inappropriate approach to this particular topic. It might seem funny to you and it might play well on TV but to anyone not intimately familiar with Manny's ever-changing persona it looks likes straight-up racism and violates the DU TOS, whatever intentions Manny and his respondents might have.
Now do you get it?
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)your type of interpretation of what this OP is about. I do hope there are very few people who are capable of such... lets call it 'unorthodox' leaps of logic.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I wouldn't have thought those were in such short supply.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)shortcomings publicly though.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Turns out I didn't like black people. Can you imagine my shame?
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Whose mother is white and father is AA, thinks it happened right about the time our Democratic president put Social Security on the table. It was kind of the last straw and I became a foaming-at-the-mouth racist from that point on. I also left the Democratic Party, which means I want Republicans to win and I really have no place on DemocraticUnderground any more. Just waiting for the inevitable PPR.
Iggo
(47,550 posts)RobinA
(9,888 posts)spectrum early on during the first campaign when I started to notice that the words being spoken did not seem to say what the liberal interpretations said they said. I think my exact racist comment at the time was, "If this were 1976 he'd be a Republican." Mostly I blamed the interpretors, but hey... I voted with full understanding of that. When Guantanamo didn't close I became a little more of a racist, but I back tracked (walked it back) when some sort of health care reform was passed. The cat food commission definitely increased my bigotry. I then went wild with hatred when I read an editorial written by a member (color unknown) of the administration stating that basically, health insurance was headed for the same type of system as the 401k and that this was inevitable. That was the pinnacle of my racism. The surveillence boondoogle really hasn't increased my racism from that level, because I feel it is more a case of Kool Aid drinking than actual race. In fact, until many DUers equated anti-snoopism with hating Obama, I never really thought of it as an Obama issue. Which also makes me a hypocrite, because I always blamed this snooping on Bush when he was in the White House. Thanks, snoop-deniers!
Oh, wait, I forgot one. Being white, and [gasp] blue-eyed, I am told that I am a racist simply by being alive, so essentially I've been racist since before conception. The very idea of me is racist.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)Especially how quickly it happened, less than a year after voting for Obama (The 2nd time), and being upset (again) with Washingtons continued violations of our rights (1st, 4th), other people, strangers in fact, kindly pointed it out to me.
I am working on it though, thank you for your thread
markiv
(1,489 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... or a public option for decent healthcare insurance.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)But it didn't stop my descent into racism right there and than...
I became convinced it applies to EVERYONE. No qualifiers, restrictions, etc. I even think it should be applied to non-Human species like Great Apes (just one of the examples) and AI.
I am so sorry...
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Why, the minute I did that, my Klan robes and pointy hood came in the mail the very next day!
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)To many here that makes me a racist.
great white snark
(2,646 posts)The ones you need to feel sorry for you aren't worth the effort.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Racist AND Terrorist
n2doc
(47,953 posts)who said he would change things for the better. I did it again in 2012. But he changed many things in the opposite direction, so I got disappointed. Silly me.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)after I read the Fourth Amendment and re-learned the government was spying on us.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not sure exactly when it reared its ugly head. When I hear things like this
"I suspect that, on Social Security, we've got a somewhat similar position. Social Security is structurally sound. It's going to have to be tweaked the way it was by Ronald Reagan and Democratic Speaker Tip O'Neill." - Obama being asked what the major differences between he and Mitt in a debate.
my racist side seems to show itself. You see, I think that what is said by the President actually helps to shape public opinion. I felt racist emotions when he let the public know that the republican presidential candidates position on SS has validity. It is a dark side of me that I try to hide from.
Arming bad people in Syria has also brought out my racist side. New found love for the Patriot Act. Yep, that does it. Whats she not telling you about her healthcare plan, It forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you cant afford it, and you pay a penalty if you dont. - Obama. Shit, at one point we agreed on that. But now that he has evolved I am a racist. My stance against NAFTA, dammit, racist.
Overall it is something that I have become over the last couple of years. Can't really pinpoint the date.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)I was okay with black people at that point...
But somewhere along the line, the failure to prosecute or even strongly criticize the war crimes of Bush, the failure to strongly advocate for the public option, the troop surge and increasing death toll in Afghanistan, the bailout of the banksters and the failure to bailout the homeowners, the massive war on drugs, the cutting of the home heating oil assistance program, the appointment of Republicans, the appointment of drug corporatists, the appointment of Wall St. sleazebags, the assault on teachers, the failure to put on comfy shoes and stand up for unions.... it all sort of built up.
And then... I guess I became a racist because it wasn't really all about that. I guess I just realized I don't like black folks like my sister-in-law.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)It's apparently racist as hell to hold people who should know better to a higher standard. Maybe it was racist for me to think that he knew better. I'll say one thing for racism, though, it makes a person much more aware of politicians' words and deeds.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It is one thing to talk about racism within the context of the 30% of the public who won't vote for him no matter what.
It is something else entirely to throw it around here.
"The president of the United States is a victim of racism" is the kind of sentence that brings ones credibility into question.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)And I'm just incensed with all these illegal aliens taunting us with their anti-gravity ships. I'm so mad at them for never sharing a single bit of their superior technology that I could shout at a cloud!
byeya
(2,842 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)But one day, I logged on to DU and found out right away.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)& Rec !!!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)The CCC
(463 posts)The Vietnam war. I've had a profound hatred for American Presidents ever since of both political parties.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)they do not like and asked us to think about who we did not associate with when we living in our home areas. I was going to say NO ONE until I thought about it.
I came from an almost totally white area of Iowa so it was hard to answer that question. But using the definition for bigotry it was easier. Most of our communities were divided into ethnic groups/religious groups depending on immigration patterns in the past. My great grandparents had been involved in the KKK but not against racial groups instead we hated the Catholics and they hated us. In my school class one of the boys talked about how the Catholics joined the KKK to fight the Protestants and I talked about how my family did for the exact opposite reasons. Our families both had the white robes to prove it.
In the 70s there was no more KKK but we still lived in groups who strongly disagreed on religion - even to the point of not encouraging intermarrying. I had to admit I was no more innocent than anyone else in that class room.
SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)NOLALady
(4,003 posts)when I saw hoses and dogs attacking Black children.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)I can't be the hateful one, I'm a cheerleader!
All the good people are where I am, cheering our side on.
How can you deny our cheer, can't you hear it's perfect rhyme and reason?
Why are you so full of hate, it must be because of my team's color.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)That was the first time I believe someone implied I was a racist.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Sad
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Collecting and reporting on letter writing data for people in this thread?
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)What kind of career puts you in a chair writing these pathetic posts all day?
LWolf
(46,179 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Which means he doesn't work directly for the government.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)(2) post it on the internet
Autumn
(45,058 posts)that's what's sad, is that you think you can say something like that when you have no clue.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)Objectively, how do you know who we are and how much we write to Congress? I mean seriously, how could you POSSIBLY know that? I'm really, truly curious.
If there is no way you could possibly know, why take it upon yourself to criticize, without cause, 200 people who are ostensibly your allies? You ARE a Democrat, right? but you actively seek to insult and possibly make enemies of other Democrats? Why? Truly, why?
frylock
(34,825 posts)are you in human resources?
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Barack Obama told FOX News that Republicans "got" education better than Democrats.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And sometimes Australian aborigines really set me off. And anyone who speaks Esperanto. Other than that, I'm accepting of pretty much everyone. Oh yeah, except for Canadians.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)bleeding heart tolerant hippie radical liberal social worker anti-fascist racism directly in the womb, apparently.
This should be completely evident from my sig line below.
Born This Way ~ Lady Gaga
Don't be a drag, just be a queen
Whether you're broke or evergreen
You're black, white, beige, chola descent
You're Lebanese, you're orient
Whether life's disabilities
Left you outcast, bullied, or teased
Rejoice and love yourself today
'cause baby you were born this way
No matter gay, straight, or bi,
Lesbian, transgendered life,
I'm on the right track baby,
I was born to survive.
No matter black, white or beige
Chola or orient made,
I'm on the right track baby,
I was born to be brave.
I was born this way hey!
I was born this way hey!
I'm on the right track baby
I was born this way hey!
Same DNA, but born this way.
Same DNA, but born this way.
------------------------------
Pretty, pretty please, don't you ever ever feel, like you're less than, fuckin' perfect, to me.
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)and that we each had an obligation to all in that regard, and all had an obligation to each. I could not square this belief with the way the heinous "Obamacare" act force-fed people into the jaws of an abusive financial racket, enlisted the coercive powers of government into the service of that racket making no effort to control costs, and absolutely denied health care as anything like a human right, but instead condemned all to the racket's cradle to grave predation.
Ever since then, kind people, who know better than I, have been informing me that my real reason for believing health care is a human right due to every citizen is because I am in fact a racist.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)referring to Obama as "articulate"?
I mean, really, we were coming off of 8 years of this:
and "articulate" was high up on my pony list.
Shoot me.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)eom
richmwill
(1,326 posts)Let's start THAT debate again...
frylock
(34,825 posts)sure, it dawned on me in 2008, when I was buying up Obama shirts, posters, and decals, and donating money directly to the campaign, that perhaps I was bigoted.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I was trendy then, now I'm a racist because I'm not fond of the Patriot Act. It's funny how civil rights go out of style.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Bake
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)The 3 of those guys are most definitely racist toward Obama, so I thought I'd be a racist, just like them.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)in Washington D,C.. I played all day with all black kids and none of us cared. In the late 1950's my older brother and his friend (whom had married a black girl) went to Mississippi to work on voter registration drives. I'm so tired of this "racist" meme.
JustAnotherGen
(31,813 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)to you for one of the funniest replies i've read in a long time.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)When I first heard it, I knew exactly where she was coming from!
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)those "colored only" or "white only" signs made me realize just how privileged i am.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)A full marathon was just too much. I discriminated against longer races....
Oh, we talking about favouring one human versus another because of their historical ancestry? Please. Fill me in.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)I don't like NASCAR, Drag Racing, boat racing, Three legged sack races. I don't like track or hurdles. I don't like races of any sort. I don't even like the Kentucky Derby.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)bluesbassman
(19,371 posts)Or does that make me a merely racer?
I'm so confused now...
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)If I hate this or that race, I'll end up just hating part of me.
My family lines are world wide!
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)janlyn
(735 posts)that if I couldn't find someone to argue with I could insult myself. The hispanic side of myself could accuse the Irish/Scottish side of racism. And the German protestant side of my ancestry could call the Sephardi Jewish side a Jesus killer.
So much easier than having to pick a fight with a complete stranger !
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)this was in 1967 and i hated white people ever since.
oh, yeah- and i'm white.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)You're been ranting against this President for years and now you're trying to claim that it's only been the last few weeks that you've been critical of him. I don't know if you're a racist. Only you know that. But it seems that someone hit a nerve with you.
Number23
(24,544 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,813 posts)I was single for 39 years and I've dated enough races, ethnicities and foreigners to have an opinion and anecdotal story or two.
Number23
(24,544 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)when someone brought that up when he keeps trying to hold FDR up.
i find this to happen a lot. people attacking Obama while dismissing things others did , including wingnuts like the Pauls who would have opposed civil rights acts.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)in the USA.
derby378
(30,252 posts)My mouth still tastes like bacon and burnt robes.
JustAnotherGen
(31,813 posts)He was 34 and over here from United Arab Emirates - the only male out of 13 children trying to avoid scud missiles.
I didn't become an ageist for another 16 years.
Looked around and realized I had way too many rich ex's in their 50's.
Maybe I should post this in the Woman's World group.
Hilarity and laughter ensues.
Number23
(24,544 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)If you criticize someone's policies, you must be blinded by racism or religious prejudice, even if a lot of members of the group you supposedly dislike agree with your criticism.
I wonder what group I hate because I think George Lucas screwed up the last three Star Wars movies. I guess I'm an anti-wookite now.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Never said people against Obama were racist,
any more than we were Sexist for opposing St.Hillary back in 2008.
indepat
(20,899 posts)temerity to support civil rights. My maternal grandfather had been his (Al Gore, Sr.') early campaign manager. That grandfather and my father left me without a racist story to tell. I am grateful and salute them both.
Kablooie
(18,628 posts)Woof!
Where's my dinner?
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)eom
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)It goes back to when I was in the womb.
I remember fantasizing about Raquel Welch while masturbating.
And then I stopped.
I remember thinking, "How could I be fantasizing about Raquel Welch?? I have never seen her and have no idea who she even is. This is some seriously f**ked up s**t."
I hope that explains things.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Maybe I'll try the 4th Amendment and see if it works....
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Before that I'd walked, spent money, phone banked, and voted to get a black man elected president. But after Van was sacked I swore I'd never vote for another black man.
Wait a minute. That can't be right. I walked, spent money, phone banked, and voted to get a black man elected president again last year. It must have been some time in the last 7 months. Kind of late in life to become a racist, but it must be true, since I read it in GD
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)with those sit-ins I did in the 60's.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)......I didn't get it either.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Buzzkill.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)They are after our women folk!
Kennah
(14,256 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)We need a support group.