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alp227

(32,065 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:14 AM Jun 2013

Geraldo Rivera: Michael Hastings "destroyed career" of Gen. McChrystal

Wow, Geraldo Rivera is such a class act. (h/t Public Shaming)





PS responds:

Geraldo Rivera is a piece of shit. We all knew that. Whether he’s blaming Trayvon Martin for wearing a hoodie or putting together a television stunt to real the nonexistent contents of Al Capone’s vault, Geraldo Rivera is nothing but a hack, jealous of what real, actual journalists like Michael Hastings accomplished. Hastings reported what he heard and saw and committed to writing it as is, the truth. McChrystal cost himself his job. Geraldo Rivera, a Fox News employee, has no idea what being a journalist even means.

@Bro_Pair on Twitter had this amazing thing to say: “@GeraldoRivera Remember when you got thrown out of Iraq for drawing troop movements on live TV? But yeah, Hastings hated America.”
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Geraldo Rivera: Michael Hastings "destroyed career" of Gen. McChrystal (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2013 OP
Silly "journalist"... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #1
no kidding frylock Jun 2013 #4
I let him know that "Jerry Rivers" is a putz. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author frylock Jun 2013 #3
The only career Geraldo destroyed was his own. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #5
Rivera is right, Al Capone's vault was decades ago and he didn't know before The Second Stone Jun 2013 #6
Al Capone's vault was a spectical... it didn't even come close to real journalism. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #8
What a Joke Geraldo is! BillyRibs Jun 2013 #7
Geraldo was married to one of Kurt Vonnegut's daughters (Edith) for a few years... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #9
This would be the guy who gave away our military's postition on live coverage. dballance Jun 2013 #10
Do folding chairs still break noses? Politicalboi Jun 2013 #11
Well if they do, BillyRibs Jun 2013 #50
McChrystal destroyed his own career. There's a fine line between cameraderie MADem Jun 2013 #12
Geraldo Rivera--what a joke. He should be on Comedy Central. AndyA Jun 2013 #13
There isn't a dispute about what McChrystal said. Renew Deal Jun 2013 #14
What else could he have meant? marble falls Jun 2013 #16
That it is part of his legacy. Renew Deal Jun 2013 #19
In Geraldo's defense... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #27
lol for a journalist that is like saying a terrible dentist grantcart Jun 2013 #37
Hell Geraldo, Capone's vault was the best YOU'VE got!!!!!! marble falls Jun 2013 #15
^^^THIS^^^ Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #25
+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #29
haha +1! zappaman Jun 2013 #31
In all fairness Geraldo deserves accolades for his work on the Willowbrook story MattBaggins Jun 2013 #55
That "dipshit" opened the 'Capone' door. I am sorry you got such a rough childhood, though .... marble falls Jun 2013 #56
That was what I was thinking. He started off as tomg Jun 2013 #59
So? nt bemildred Jun 2013 #17
somewhat disagree PatrynXX Jun 2013 #18
Gerald'oh has followers? GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2013 #20
Sadly yes obama2terms Jun 2013 #63
I didn't know Gerry was such a military expert n2doc Jun 2013 #21
That made for classic TV though... Pholus Jun 2013 #41
McChrystal didn't need any help in ruining his career Joey Liberal Jun 2013 #22
+10,000 reaming Michael hastings for reporting the truth? Shame Geraldo! librechik Jun 2013 #30
If News organizations had any credibility any more that alone would get him fired Quixote1818 Jun 2013 #23
Who is Geraldo Rivera? jsr Jun 2013 #24
Fuck You Geraldo formercia Jun 2013 #26
LOL! Capone was just the beginning for the king of yellow journalism. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #28
General McChrystal destroyed General McChrystal's career CanonRay Jun 2013 #32
Wait ctsnowman Jun 2013 #33
Hey Geraldo,...if you had ANY integrity you would have dumped FOX after this... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #34
McChrystal destroyed his own carreer maindawg Jun 2013 #35
McChrystal Destroyed His Own Career Demeter Jun 2013 #36
McChrystal destroyed his own career. Octafish Jun 2013 #38
^^^what they said^^^^ Squinch Jun 2013 #39
Karma, Mr. Rivera 47of74 Jun 2013 #40
He pretty much did that all by himself Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #42
He says that like it was a bad thing ... eppur_se_muova Jun 2013 #43
fuck you geraldo and you're inflated opinion of yourself spanone Jun 2013 #44
I heaven05 Jun 2013 #45
Imbecile. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #46
I like when Jon Stewart called Geraldo a "part time Snidley Whiplash impersonator." Initech Jun 2013 #47
My favorite Geraldo memory DirkGently Jun 2013 #48
And Manson threatened to "beat the dogshit out of Rivera" Tom Ripley Jun 2013 #52
After he tweeted this: cleduc Jun 2013 #49
Lol owned. Why do these assholes that never served Dash87 Jun 2013 #64
Stanley ruined his own career. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #51
There's still time... Godot51 Jun 2013 #53
If I really cared enough to repond to Jerry Rivers tech3149 Jun 2013 #54
McChrystal destroyed his own career with his own mouth and his own actions, same as Geraldo. Jamastiene Jun 2013 #57
Actually the best i would have had was rpannier Jun 2013 #58
Geraldo Rivera = the male version of Ann Coulter - n/t Locrian Jun 2013 #60
Geraldo Rivera needs to grow up. avebury Jun 2013 #61
Well, at least Stanley was loyal to his Commander in Chief - Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #62
McChrystal ruined his career. Whatever happened to GOP accountability. Oh, right, only apps to other CarmanK Jun 2013 #65
. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #66

Response to alp227 (Original post)

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
6. Rivera is right, Al Capone's vault was decades ago and he didn't know before
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:42 AM
Jun 2013

going in that it was empty. He now works willingly for Fox News, which he knew was nothing but lies before he willingly signed on. Al Capone's vault was real journalism by comparison to what he does now.

 

BillyRibs

(787 posts)
7. What a Joke Geraldo is!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:26 AM
Jun 2013

Here is my comparison; Eliot Spitzer, destroyed him self and his career And the reporter who brought this to light was a Champion of truth! but A "Fighting" General who has waged a rather dirty war Lying to the American people with the "Victory is Just around the Corner!" B.S. has destroyed his his own career as well, But the Man reporting the said atrocities and lies is the one who did the dirty deed!?!?
Here is my Conclusion; Gerry Get a life! you forgot you are a part of the fourth estate a long time ago you Fargging Whore! BTW do us all a favor, go Piss up a rope!

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
9. Geraldo was married to one of Kurt Vonnegut's daughters (Edith) for a few years...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:33 AM
Jun 2013

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
10. This would be the guy who gave away our military's postition on live coverage.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:52 AM
Jun 2013

This is the guy who gave away our troops' position on a live feed. Who was then ordered to leave the country.

Sorry Rivera. McChrystal made the decisions that destroyed his career, just like you did for yours. Michael Hastings didn't destroy McChrystal, McChrystal did it all on his own.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. McChrystal destroyed his own career. There's a fine line between cameraderie
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:21 AM
Jun 2013

and insubordination, and his staff went way over that fine line...and the not-so-good General ALLOWED it.

There's some shit that leaders just should not tolerate, if they are to be good leaders. The General failed in his duty to lead by example and set the standard, which is why his staff was such a bunch of mouthy little tools, ripe for the quoting.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
13. Geraldo Rivera--what a joke. He should be on Comedy Central.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jun 2013

Capone's vault may have been 27 years ago, but it's the thing that so many identify with Rivera. It's his, he owns it. He can't just walk away from it now. Deal with it, Rivera.

Instead of becoming a true journalist, Rivera instead decided to move toward the sensational aspect of reporting. Not really news, but covering the zit on Kim Kardashian's butt, or taking whatever he could find out of context to create "news" for the masses on faux.

Poor Rivera really had no choice but to go to faux, because intelligent people wouldn't give him the time of day.

Anyone other than a complete fool knows that Michael Hastings didn't ruin McChrystal's career, McChrystal did that on his own. A true journalist would realize this and not make idiotic statements like Rivera did.

I hope he loses a lot of followers, but suspect most who follow him are idiots to begin with, so they'll just accept what he says without question, even though Rivera's dead wrong.

Renew Deal

(81,882 posts)
14. There isn't a dispute about what McChrystal said.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:35 AM
Jun 2013

So hastings didn't "get him fired." Geraldo's statement reads like a "he deserved it" statement. I'm not sure if that's what he meant.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
27. In Geraldo's defense...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jun 2013

He's never been really good with communicating ideas clearly. It's one of his biggest weaknesses.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
37. lol for a journalist that is like saying a terrible dentist
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:13 PM
Jun 2013

shouldn't be blamed because he 'doesn't work with his hands well'.


Very funny.

MattBaggins

(7,905 posts)
55. In all fairness Geraldo deserves accolades for his work on the Willowbrook story
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:32 AM
Jun 2013

He could have been a great man but he decided to turn into a dipshit.

I was in an orphanage during some of the time frame of the Willowbrook scandal and there were many people involved but Geraldo deserves credit for his part in changing how people in institutions were treated.

marble falls

(57,353 posts)
56. That "dipshit" opened the 'Capone' door. I am sorry you got such a rough childhood, though ....
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:39 AM
Jun 2013

I certainly hope things are better for you.

tomg

(2,574 posts)
59. That was what I was thinking. He started off as
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:40 AM
Jun 2013

a lawyer for the Young Lords in NYC, and did some good work early in his broadcasting career in addition to Willowbrook. If you follow him, there is a real downward spiral. As much as I deplore him, he always strikes me one who had potential to do great good and simply chose another path.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
18. somewhat disagree
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jun 2013

Geraldo skewered his career by going on fox. but love seeing him and Billo go after each other.. Bill is a hack. Geraldo is getting used.

not the best choice of words but some of the stuff Hastings wrote weren't entirely accurate. and using something from when I was 11...zzzzzz hey can I go back in time. actually that was during the years I changed. Do to an incident in Freeport IL, I was hardly a racist coming out of the gate after a girl named Katrina I think who was black said some of the money heart felt apology I'd ever heard. The 2 worst bullies in that school were both white. One pulled a switchblade on me. never remembered his full name Chad.... and his buddy Joe ****** his last name I do remember. Have no idea why.

So thanks for this discussion I can remember why I tend to be neither Republican or Democrat. I lean left. Registered Dem because I'm in Iowa. Next time. If Hillary is running there is a fairly good chance I'll vote third party. Toooooooo close to the arabs. Said that in 2008, seeing her out the other day.. looks like she's pretending to be tough again. She lost in 2008 doing that. Where the real Hillary goes when she's back to running her own thing I have no idea. But trying to say Hastings Hated America. Who said that. Need to have the line down before providing words in mouth.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
63. Sadly yes
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:39 PM
Jun 2013

My brother, who actually is quite liberal ( in some cases more liberal than me) is a Geraldo defender because of him exposing the Willowbrook State School, which yes that is a wonderful thing ( and the only thing I like about him) but still after what he has said lately, I have lost any respect I had left for him.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
21. I didn't know Gerry was such a military expert
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:36 PM
Jun 2013

But then I guess someone who diagrams troop movements on TV must be one, right?

"Finest fighting general", my ass.

Joey Liberal

(5,526 posts)
22. McChrystal didn't need any help in ruining his career
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:57 PM
Jun 2013

He lied about Pat Tillman's death and he never should have been promoted to general in the first place.

Quixote1818

(28,989 posts)
23. If News organizations had any credibility any more that alone would get him fired
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jun 2013

Proves he is not a journalist in the very least.

CanonRay

(14,121 posts)
32. General McChrystal destroyed General McChrystal's career
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jun 2013

with his own big mouth. Ahh, there's that old personal responsibility bugaboo biting another Republican in the ass.

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
33. Wait
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jun 2013

Rivera has twitter followers? LOL didn't he fake getting beat up back in the day as well?

Thanks for the post.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
35. McChrystal destroyed his own carreer
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jun 2013

He is a big boy, he is accountable for his actions. Hastings did his job, unlike Geraldo who is a grandstanding idiot.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
38. McChrystal destroyed his own career.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jun 2013

"I can personally verify that some of the most damning comments were made by McChrystal himself, and many others made by his aides in his presence were greeted with his enthusiastic approval. Michael refused to give further evidence to the Pentagon investigators, even though he could have directly attributed a host of insubordinate comments to others on the general’s staff, in part because he believed that it was not the role of a journalist to open his notebooks to the military, and in part because he felt that what was needed when it came to the war in Afghanistan was not a change in personnel, but in policy." -- Elise Jordan, Mr. Hastings' widow.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/geraldo-rivera-michael-hastings_n_3469936.html

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
40. Karma, Mr. Rivera
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jun 2013

Don't speak ill of the dead because one has no control over what will be said of them once they're gone.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
42. He pretty much did that all by himself
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jun 2013

Hastings apparently (unlike Geraldo has or I suspect every will be able to do) just brought news to light.

eppur_se_muova

(36,305 posts)
43. He says that like it was a bad thing ...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:25 PM
Jun 2013

hard to forget, indeed. This was one career that needed to be destroyed.

Initech

(100,108 posts)
47. I like when Jon Stewart called Geraldo a "part time Snidley Whiplash impersonator."
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jun 2013

Really, how is this creep still relevant?

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
48. My favorite Geraldo memory
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jun 2013

... was once when he was interviewing Charles Manson in prison. He tried to go down some kind of macho road about Manson having had "other people do his killing." And how in Geraldo's day or Geraldo's neighborhood, or some such, they did "their own killing."

I swear though, that I've heard him say some intelligent things. Just can't remember the last one.
 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
52. And Manson threatened to "beat the dogshit out of Rivera"
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jun 2013

Probably the first and only time many viewers identified with Manson

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
49. After he tweeted this:
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:21 PM
Jun 2013
Geraldo Rivera ?@GeraldoRivera 13h
The vast majority of virtual attackers are pretentiously obscene slashers who never served, never read Hastings and never watched me


This was my tweeted response:

CLeduc ?@cleduc2 15s
@GeraldoRivera I served, read Hastings and watched you. Capone's vault may be your top accomplishment, was pretentious & obscene journalism

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
64. Lol owned. Why do these assholes that never served
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jun 2013

try to use "you never served!" as a trump card? I never served, but I don't try to denigrate others for not serving.

He's a hypocrite asshole.

Godot51

(239 posts)
53. There's still time...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:24 PM
Jun 2013

... just put McChrystal back in uniform (I'd recommend Private) and send him to Afghanistan and let him fight once again. Maybe he can salvage his reputation.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
54. If I really cared enough to repond to Jerry Rivers
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jun 2013

I'd tell him to stick to Fux "News" so would never have to see him again.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
57. McChrystal destroyed his own career with his own mouth and his own actions, same as Geraldo.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:02 AM
Jun 2013

Geraldo destroyed HIS own career with his stupid sand map of troop movements while covering the Iraq war. How did he think drawing a map of where the troops were going to attack next was going to turn out?

He is a blithering idiot.

rpannier

(24,342 posts)
58. Actually the best i would have had was
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:33 AM
Jun 2013

I refuse to stop following you. Everyday I stop for a minute to read one of your twits... i mean tweets. They're constant reminders of, no matter what awful a day I'm having, no matter how bad my life may seem... I'm not you. And that makes me smile.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
61. Geraldo Rivera needs to grow up.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jun 2013

The only person responsible for destroying McChrystal's career is McChrystal himself. Rivera is in no position to critique any journalist, after all, he was responsible for revealing troop movements on live TV and getting kicked out of the field.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
62. Well, at least Stanley was loyal to his Commander in Chief -
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jun 2013

the "Mission Accomplished" one:

McChrystal was also criticized for his role in the aftermath of the 2004 death by friendly fire of Ranger and former professional football player Pat Tillman.

Within a day of Tillman's death, McChrystal was notified that Tillman was a victim of friendly fire. Shortly thereafter, McChrystal was put in charge of paperwork to award Tillman a posthumous Silver Star for valor.

On April 28, 2004, six days after Tillman's death, McChrystal approved a final draft of the Silver Star recommendation and submitted it to the acting Secretary of the Army, even though the medal recommendation deliberately omitted any mention of friendly fire, included the phrase "in the line of devastating enemy fire", and was accompanied by fabricated witness statements.

On April 29, McChrystal sent an urgent memo warning White House speechwriters not to quote the medal recommendation in any statements they wrote for President Bush because it "might cause public embarrassment if the circumstances of Corporal Tillman's death become public."


"Mr. President, don't use this one publicly, it's just a typical Military Cover-Your-Ass medal.
I wouldn't want you to get embarrassed by the Demon Rats, Sir."

CarmanK

(662 posts)
65. McChrystal ruined his career. Whatever happened to GOP accountability. Oh, right, only apps to other
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

McChrystal is responsible for his conduct and his career direction. Michael Hastings exposed the "other more putrid side of the general" that was there all along.

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