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Wow, Geraldo Rivera is such a class act. (h/t Public Shaming)
PS responds:
@Bro_Pair on Twitter had this amazing thing to say: @GeraldoRivera Remember when you got thrown out of Iraq for drawing troop movements on live TV? But yeah, Hastings hated America.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)....McChrystal destroyed McChrystal's career.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Response to alp227 (Original post)
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)going in that it was empty. He now works willingly for Fox News, which he knew was nothing but lies before he willingly signed on. Al Capone's vault was real journalism by comparison to what he does now.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)BillyRibs
(787 posts)Here is my comparison; Eliot Spitzer, destroyed him self and his career And the reporter who brought this to light was a Champion of truth! but A "Fighting" General who has waged a rather dirty war Lying to the American people with the "Victory is Just around the Corner!" B.S. has destroyed his his own career as well, But the Man reporting the said atrocities and lies is the one who did the dirty deed!?!?
Here is my Conclusion; Gerry Get a life! you forgot you are a part of the fourth estate a long time ago you Fargging Whore! BTW do us all a favor, go Piss up a rope!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Just thought I'd throw that out there.
dballance
(5,756 posts)This is the guy who gave away our troops' position on a live feed. Who was then ordered to leave the country.
Sorry Rivera. McChrystal made the decisions that destroyed his career, just like you did for yours. Michael Hastings didn't destroy McChrystal, McChrystal did it all on his own.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)I still remember him with the bandage on his nose. LOL!
BillyRibs
(787 posts)I better not see him when I'm sitting on one!
MADem
(135,425 posts)and insubordination, and his staff went way over that fine line...and the not-so-good General ALLOWED it.
There's some shit that leaders just should not tolerate, if they are to be good leaders. The General failed in his duty to lead by example and set the standard, which is why his staff was such a bunch of mouthy little tools, ripe for the quoting.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Capone's vault may have been 27 years ago, but it's the thing that so many identify with Rivera. It's his, he owns it. He can't just walk away from it now. Deal with it, Rivera.
Instead of becoming a true journalist, Rivera instead decided to move toward the sensational aspect of reporting. Not really news, but covering the zit on Kim Kardashian's butt, or taking whatever he could find out of context to create "news" for the masses on faux.
Poor Rivera really had no choice but to go to faux, because intelligent people wouldn't give him the time of day.
Anyone other than a complete fool knows that Michael Hastings didn't ruin McChrystal's career, McChrystal did that on his own. A true journalist would realize this and not make idiotic statements like Rivera did.
I hope he loses a lot of followers, but suspect most who follow him are idiots to begin with, so they'll just accept what he says without question, even though Rivera's dead wrong.
Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)So hastings didn't "get him fired." Geraldo's statement reads like a "he deserved it" statement. I'm not sure if that's what he meant.
marble falls
(57,353 posts)Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)He's never been really good with communicating ideas clearly. It's one of his biggest weaknesses.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)shouldn't be blamed because he 'doesn't work with his hands well'.
Very funny.
marble falls
(57,353 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)MattBaggins
(7,905 posts)He could have been a great man but he decided to turn into a dipshit.
I was in an orphanage during some of the time frame of the Willowbrook scandal and there were many people involved but Geraldo deserves credit for his part in changing how people in institutions were treated.
marble falls
(57,353 posts)I certainly hope things are better for you.
tomg
(2,574 posts)a lawyer for the Young Lords in NYC, and did some good work early in his broadcasting career in addition to Willowbrook. If you follow him, there is a real downward spiral. As much as I deplore him, he always strikes me one who had potential to do great good and simply chose another path.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Geraldo skewered his career by going on fox. but love seeing him and Billo go after each other.. Bill is a hack. Geraldo is getting used.
not the best choice of words but some of the stuff Hastings wrote weren't entirely accurate. and using something from when I was 11...zzzzzz hey can I go back in time. actually that was during the years I changed. Do to an incident in Freeport IL, I was hardly a racist coming out of the gate after a girl named Katrina I think who was black said some of the money heart felt apology I'd ever heard. The 2 worst bullies in that school were both white. One pulled a switchblade on me. never remembered his full name Chad.... and his buddy Joe ****** his last name I do remember. Have no idea why.
So thanks for this discussion I can remember why I tend to be neither Republican or Democrat. I lean left. Registered Dem because I'm in Iowa. Next time. If Hillary is running there is a fairly good chance I'll vote third party. Toooooooo close to the arabs. Said that in 2008, seeing her out the other day.. looks like she's pretending to be tough again. She lost in 2008 doing that. Where the real Hillary goes when she's back to running her own thing I have no idea. But trying to say Hastings Hated America. Who said that. Need to have the line down before providing words in mouth.
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,585 posts)obama2terms
(563 posts)My brother, who actually is quite liberal ( in some cases more liberal than me) is a Geraldo defender because of him exposing the Willowbrook State School, which yes that is a wonderful thing ( and the only thing I like about him) but still after what he has said lately, I have lost any respect I had left for him.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)But then I guess someone who diagrams troop movements on TV must be one, right?
"Finest fighting general", my ass.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)He looked "bold" with that pistol strapped to his side.
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)He lied about Pat Tillman's death and he never should have been promoted to general in the first place.
librechik
(30,677 posts)Quixote1818
(28,989 posts)Proves he is not a journalist in the very least.
jsr
(7,712 posts)formercia
(18,479 posts)That is all.
Read my Sig.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)CanonRay
(14,121 posts)with his own big mouth. Ahh, there's that old personal responsibility bugaboo biting another Republican in the ass.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)Rivera has twitter followers? LOL didn't he fake getting beat up back in the day as well?
Thanks for the post.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)maindawg
(1,151 posts)He is a big boy, he is accountable for his actions. Hastings did his job, unlike Geraldo who is a grandstanding idiot.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)"I can personally verify that some of the most damning comments were made by McChrystal himself, and many others made by his aides in his presence were greeted with his enthusiastic approval. Michael refused to give further evidence to the Pentagon investigators, even though he could have directly attributed a host of insubordinate comments to others on the generals staff, in part because he believed that it was not the role of a journalist to open his notebooks to the military, and in part because he felt that what was needed when it came to the war in Afghanistan was not a change in personnel, but in policy." -- Elise Jordan, Mr. Hastings' widow.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/geraldo-rivera-michael-hastings_n_3469936.html
Squinch
(51,035 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Don't speak ill of the dead because one has no control over what will be said of them once they're gone.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Hastings apparently (unlike Geraldo has or I suspect every will be able to do) just brought news to light.
eppur_se_muova
(36,305 posts)hard to forget, indeed. This was one career that needed to be destroyed.
spanone
(135,900 posts)never liked geraldo. bottom feeding scum.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Initech
(100,108 posts)Really, how is this creep still relevant?
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)... was once when he was interviewing Charles Manson in prison. He tried to go down some kind of macho road about Manson having had "other people do his killing." And how in Geraldo's day or Geraldo's neighborhood, or some such, they did "their own killing."
I swear though, that I've heard him say some intelligent things. Just can't remember the last one.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Probably the first and only time many viewers identified with Manson
cleduc
(653 posts)Geraldo Rivera ?@GeraldoRivera 13h
The vast majority of virtual attackers are pretentiously obscene slashers who never served, never read Hastings and never watched me
This was my tweeted response:
CLeduc ?@cleduc2 15s
@GeraldoRivera I served, read Hastings and watched you. Capone's vault may be your top accomplishment, was pretentious & obscene journalism
Dash87
(3,220 posts)try to use "you never served!" as a trump card? I never served, but I don't try to denigrate others for not serving.
He's a hypocrite asshole.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Godot51
(239 posts)... just put McChrystal back in uniform (I'd recommend Private) and send him to Afghanistan and let him fight once again. Maybe he can salvage his reputation.
tech3149
(4,452 posts)I'd tell him to stick to Fux "News" so would never have to see him again.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Geraldo destroyed HIS own career with his stupid sand map of troop movements while covering the Iraq war. How did he think drawing a map of where the troops were going to attack next was going to turn out?
He is a blithering idiot.
rpannier
(24,342 posts)I refuse to stop following you. Everyday I stop for a minute to read one of your twits... i mean tweets. They're constant reminders of, no matter what awful a day I'm having, no matter how bad my life may seem... I'm not you. And that makes me smile.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)The only person responsible for destroying McChrystal's career is McChrystal himself. Rivera is in no position to critique any journalist, after all, he was responsible for revealing troop movements on live TV and getting kicked out of the field.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)the "Mission Accomplished" one:
McChrystal was also criticized for his role in the aftermath of the 2004 death by friendly fire of Ranger and former professional football player Pat Tillman.
Within a day of Tillman's death, McChrystal was notified that Tillman was a victim of friendly fire. Shortly thereafter, McChrystal was put in charge of paperwork to award Tillman a posthumous Silver Star for valor.
On April 28, 2004, six days after Tillman's death, McChrystal approved a final draft of the Silver Star recommendation and submitted it to the acting Secretary of the Army, even though the medal recommendation deliberately omitted any mention of friendly fire, included the phrase "in the line of devastating enemy fire", and was accompanied by fabricated witness statements.
On April 29, McChrystal sent an urgent memo warning White House speechwriters not to quote the medal recommendation in any statements they wrote for President Bush because it "might cause public embarrassment if the circumstances of Corporal Tillman's death become public."
"Mr. President, don't use this one publicly, it's just a typical Military Cover-Your-Ass medal.
I wouldn't want you to get embarrassed by the Demon Rats, Sir."
CarmanK
(662 posts)McChrystal is responsible for his conduct and his career direction. Michael Hastings exposed the "other more putrid side of the general" that was there all along.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).