TIME MAGAZINE-has JEB BUSH's time come? why another Bush may run in 2016

[graham4anything]

OK Folks. Here it is. As Predicted 8 years ago by me (on the offshoot of the old John Kerry board.)
It will again take a Clinton to defeat a Bush.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2145994,00.html

Has Jeb's Time Come?

Genes, family history and shifting demographics explain why another Bush may run in 2016


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2145994,00.html#ixzz2WmI1GwGA

It's one of the more interesting what-ifs of the past few decades. What would have happened if both George W. and Jeb Bush had won their gubernatorial bids in 1994? Which brother would have run for President in 2000 against Al Gore? Late in George W. Bush's second presidential term, I asked his father this question. The senior Bush shrugged, waving off the hypothetical. "Who knows?" he replied. "Didn't happen." Then, after the briefest of pauses, the 41st President added, "If Jeb wants his shot, he should have it. He's done the work, been a governor--a very fine governor, I might add--and if he wants to go for it, I hope he does."

That hope, it is safe to say, endures. No one who knows George H.W. Bush seriously doubts that the former President would like to see Jeb mount a campaign for the White House. Barbara Bush has expressed skepticism. "There are other people out there that are very qualified, and we've had enough Bushes," she told NBC's Today show last April. Asked about 2016 on ABC's This Week last Sunday, Jeb said, "I think we've got a split ballot amongst the Bush senior family. Pretty sure that's the case."

The former Florida governor says he'll make a decision next year. Either way, the speculation about a Bush bid in 2016 tells us a lot about one of the handful of truly influential American families and more than a little bit about the country that family has helped shape.

Jeb long ago internalized and then lived out his family's guiding precepts. Bushes move to new parts of the country; they work hard; they learn from their mistakes, particularly from failed campaigns; and they never, ever give up. His grandfather Prescott Bush was raised in Columbus, Ohio, and settled in Greenwich, Conn., after marrying Dorothy Walker, the daughter of G.H. Walker of St. Louis and New York City. Prescott was a tireless partner at Brown Brothers Harriman, an investment firm, and lost two races for the U.S. Senate before winning a seat from Connecticut in 1952.


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[libodem]

1. Hillary

Will bust him in the nutz. Squash him like a bug. Mow him down like a weed. Punch him like the dirtbag, he is. Sock him like a tether ball, Slap him like a dope. Jump on him like a trampoline. Kick his ass like Skittles. Roll him like a drunk. I now denounce all the fake violence and wish no one any actual harm. But I do want Hillary to have just one Karate chop to his neck. No, stop. I really don't. A little kick on the shins. Stop it.


She will steamroll this punk in a landslide. That's all I'm sayin'. Then bitch slap his ass back to Florida.




(I denounce all the violent rhetoric as a joke) K? Pm me for a self delete before you alert if this too over the top. It's meant in jest.

[zappaman]

8. Really?

I'm not sure especially since we have many here who say they will not be voting.

[libodem]

13. They are cutting off their noses

To spite their faces. We are headed for a regular French Revolution, Madam DeForge style. Our democracy is doomed to fail because of the wealth disparities. We are well on they way to being owned by the Aristocracy and becoming a Plutocracy.


Did you see the great article out of AddictingInformation about the 20 most dangerous internal enemies? They need to be seen as and treated like the traitors they are to our democracy. They intend to wipe out the middle class and leave us all in poverty. We have to vote. We have to stay informed.

Sorry I'm sounding so wild-eyed. I feel kind crazy from it all. Arrrggggghhhhhggg.

[zappaman]

15. yeah, not voting will show 'em!

and when President Jeb Bush nominates a few more supreme court justices, the non-voters on this site will have won!

[libodem]

21. And I picked Hillary for my example of a crush machine

Because I know Graham backs her. And she seems to want to get into the ring for the bloody slug fest again.

[customerserviceguy]

32. Easy to say that they're not voting now

When it comes to the actual election, anyone with a D behind their name will be preferable to anyone who can get nominated with an R behind their name.

[Habibi]

20. Alert? No way!

I enthusiastically nominate this post for a DUzy, 'cause it made me laugh out loud.

[NightWatcher]

2. So we're doing dynasties now, sweet.

Not

[Nay]

7. I know. If this happens, I suspect many voters will go third party if there is a sane

candidate. There's no excuse for this dynasty bullshit. The previous dynasty members were nothing to write home about and the last Bush was a horror, and we're still getting these families shoved down our throats? I don't think so.

[Auntie Bush]

31. We only had one Clinton so far. How is that a dynasty?

A third Bush would be a dynasty. Chelsia would make it a Clinton dynasty.

[Nay]

37. I don't think we ever need two of any family to run for President; it's just a quirk of mine, I

guess. It feels to me like there is all of a sudden an 'entitlement' feeling in the family and the feeling that only a family totally entwined in politics from birth should ever have high political positions. I have the opposite feeling -- I think putting new blood into the stream of political candidates is mandatory, or we get what we've got -- the same old shit: rich people feathering their nests, hiring their buddies' kids, serving on each other's boards. It's incestuous and fatal to the operation of this country.

[Marr]

10. Odd how that seems to just naturally start happening as things unravel. /nt

[Initech]

3. Gross. The last thing we need is the BFEE back in charge.

I would look at becoming an ex pat if he even had a slight chance...

[BainsBane]

5. +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[Tikki]

4. jeb bush always looks like an unmade bed...this is not an attack on his physical traits...it is...

his stylistic choices.

Tikki

[Tom Ripley]

27. I thought it was an attack on unmade beds

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. 3rd Way Dem against a Republican. Lousy choice.

[zappaman]

9. I agree it's not the best choice.

Who would YOU vote for in that instance?
I would vote for Clinton...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. i will vote for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot.

As I usually do.

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." --John Quincy Adams

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.

[SamKnause]

12. Elections

I will not vote for Hillary.

I regret my second vote for President Obama.

I will vote straight Green Party.

I would like to see some millionaires and billionaires start a campaign to get Progressives and Democratic voters to vote Green Party.

The Democratic Party has failed us miserably.

We had better get our shit together and stop the party of Theocratic Tea Partiers and Republicans.

Apparently our party is afraid of them.

I can not count how many interviews and debates where the Democratic candidate has allowed lies and disinformation to go unchallenged.

I have never heard a Democratic candidate mention; that only 403 women have died from legal abortions in this country from the year 1973 to 2013. 403 averages out to around 10 per year.

Abortions are one of the safest medical procedures that exist.

This would counter the Republicans and Tea Party arguments that it is to protect women.

Over 650 women die each year as a result of pregnancy, or delivery complications.

Why do Republicans want to restrict access to birth control ?

Do they want women to die ?

32,000 women become pregnant each year as a result of rape.

I have heard many Republicans and Tea Party politicians make remarks about how difficult it is to become pregnant from rape, the female body has a way of shutting that sort of thing down, make lemonade out of lemons, it is a gift from God even if conception was from rape, or incest; etc.

I have NEVER heard a Democratic, or Progressive politician respond with the CDC (Center for the Disease Control) facts that the ACTUAL number is 32,000 per year.

[WovenGems]

30. 3rd Parties

Have to start at the local level. Otherwise you are just siphoning votes from the real candidates.

[struggle4progress]

14. bwaaa haaa ha!

[msongs]

16. dear gods, please spare us another bush v clinton presidential campaign....and winner nt

[Nay]

38. Indeed. If those are our choices, we can throw the towel in already. Put a fork in us, we're done.

[Auntie Bush]

39. I think it would make for an exciting, emotional, important election.

Kind of like watching a championship ball game.

[Yavin4]

17. Damn Lannisters

[cali]

18. I hate to break this to you but NO your prediction has not come true.

there is no republican nominee. duh. there is no democratic nominee. double duh.

predictions remain predictions until the event being predicted has actually happened.

Anything could happen in the next couple of years.

There is no guarantee whatsofucking ever that either hillary or jeb will be the nominees.

[graham4anything]

22. One thing that can't be denied is- Hillary will kick Jeb's rear end in the general.

There are zero ways for the republican to win the 270.

and the greatest thing about President Obama and Hillary Clinton is- their 95% supporters, do NOT listen to smears,
nor will they take their eye off the ball.

That can work in a governors, house or senate race in a specific state.

But it won't work in the Presidential.

[HiPointDem]

19. no more bushes, no more clintons. especially bushes. bushes in power since fucking forever,

one way or another. and there seems to be little difference between bush & clinton policy. they're a little too buddy-buddy for my taste.

[graham4anything]

23. 95% OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY support Bill Clinton, though it is insulting to say Hillary is a clone

of Bill, so really, that meme should not be foisted.

and it so doesn't ring true anyhow, as any of the 95% of the democratic party that supports Barack Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton know.

[HiPointDem]

24. no they don't.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. His Mother's quote about "No More Bushes" will be aired constantly.

I seriously doubt that he can win the (R) nomination.

[Dawson Leery]

26. NO MORE BUSHES!

[MichiganVote]

28. Oh HELL No.

[duuser5822]

29. Oh no, no more Bushes, please!

We've just barely started to recover from the damage inflicted on us by Dubya. I'd rather move out of the country, than live through another term of any member of the Bush family.

[customerserviceguy]

34. No worries here about that

Even the Rethuglican rank and file don't like Jebbie. My money's on Rand Paul winning their nomination, the news seems to have been playing in his favor over the last six months or so.

[cliffordu]

33. "The abuse will continue until morale improves..."

[Initech]

35. Text book definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

That's exactly what we'd get with the BFEE back in charge.

[graham4anything]

41. well, the NY Mets are the NY Mets, but the 1964 mets and the 1969 mets were different

and the 1973 mets and the 2012 and 2013 mets are different

even though the name is the same, should there be as I predict a landslide in 2016, everything will be different and HIllary
already saying that the 3 advisors that did so mediocre(or bad) won't be with her, is already saying things will be different.

Bill followed the ultra conservative Reagan and 41
Hillary will follow the liberal Obama (though of course some here think he is not liberal enough)

but it makes the gameplan much different.

Especially with the SCOTUS- the next two should be democratic replacements, but then the next 4 should be switches.
that is all the difference in the world.

(and can anyone say the appointees by Clinton and Obama are 1000 times better than Roberts and Alito.

[octoberlib]

36. I will vote for any Democrat who is nominated even though

I think Hillary will probably make this country's problems worse , I know for a fact Jeb would make them far worse.

[Segami]

40. Bwhahaha,....

[libodem]

42. Now that's a DUsy

Is that the horrible Cheney daughter, he trots out to carry the water to Faux. What's 'er name? Wait what the Hell? OMG.

Liz, is that you?

[Segami]

43. Yup!....can't you tell..the mouth gives it all away.

[WinkyDink]

44. I've been saying this for years.