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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHappy Friday, DUers! Welcome to your Friday Afternoon Challenge: Art in the News, Part II!
More recent art related stories in the news for you to find! What is the news story (not just the name of the works)?
...now, be good DUbies and dont cheat!
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Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)The rest...
BainsBane
(53,180 posts)No idea who he is though.
discopants
(535 posts)Basquiat sold for a bazillion, & contemporary British artist's work going up on billboards around London.
BainsBane
(53,180 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)recently...
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)This week, Christie's announced that an untitled Basquiate is going up for auction.
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)perhaps it happened while I was in London the end of May?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)I kinda didn't make that clear at first...my apologies...
Uncle Joe
(58,972 posts)BainsBane
(53,180 posts)Let me start over: 6 is a Degas Bronze. 5, the Van Gogh and 4 the Picasso.
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)Sorry if my OP wasn't clear at first...
I fail on that one.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Something else is happening, I gather.
(When it comes to the arts, I'm about 1/2 inch deep with no breadth)
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)This is the real answer:
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Really upstages the piece, an odd pose from an odd man. Saatchi?
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)that exist ... so that those who bought them can stop worrying whether there are 20,000 of them out there (thereby deflating the value) or just 1700 or some such number. I read the story in the Times the other week, but forget the numbers.
I am thankful I don't have to work on the catalogue raisonné of these works.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The dots do stick in the mind.
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)forgeries...but you were close enough!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)of these works, which has been plummeting. It's somewhat unorthodox, as well, for an artist themselves to produce a CR (though Gagosian is apparently part of it, too). That's generally left to outside institutions and scholars, working with the artist (when he or she is alive).
At any rate, this was the article I read the other week:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/arts/design/damien-hirsts-spot-paintings-the-field-guide.html?pagewanted=all
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)be reproduced. And art forgery is a big deal. It's amazing to me that art forgery is so prevalent, but it doesn't surprise me I guess...
panader0
(25,816 posts)In Arles I think, but don't know the news story.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)"Portrait of Postman Roulin" (1888) in the Detroit Museum is one of many works that could be auctioned off by the city.
By Philip Boroff & Katya Kazakina - May 24, 2013 9:01 PM PT
The Metropolitan Museum of Art has joined the Detroit Institute of Arts in opposing any plan for the Michigan city to sell billions of dollars of museum masterpieces to plug a deficit.
Even in the darkest days of New York Citys fiscal crisis of 1975, and the national economic meltdown of 2008, the cultural treasures closely identified with our own city were never on the table, Thomas Campbell, the Mets director and chief executive, said in a statement.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-24/met-director-decries-detroit-bid-to-pillage-own-museum.html
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)the city's debt? It was just appalling that the idea was even floated. I'm so glad the MI A.G. ruled it out, saying it belonged to the people of Detroit.
longship
(40,416 posts)I saw the King Tut exhibit when it visited from Egypt in the early sixties. A neighbor and I took the bus, just like we'd take it to Briggs Stadium to see the Tigers play. The difference was we could always see the Tigers; but Tut was in Detroit for a limited engagement. I was about 12 years old and it was awesome.
The second really memorable visit was the opening of the Tannehill bequest exhibition. Lots of good stuff. Too long ago to remember everything but I recall being enthralled by the Degas and Picasso. The former loved ballet dancers and I'd be able to pick them out anywhere, I think.
Then, there's this totally awesome sight at the Detroit Institute of Arts:
Diego Rivera Mural (one of two on opposite walls).
A detail:
And both murals in context (big):
My question is what the fuck the Detroit emergency manager would do with these? Would he demolish the building to sell these wonderful murals, too?
That invites the question. What sense would these make except in their native Detroit? Context in art is important.
Thank you, CT, for this weekly jaunt. You don't know how important it has been to many of us. Especially those who might not realize how important this is if it is lost.
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)Sadly, there is just too much money to be made from the masterpieces that Detroit owns for them not to be looked at as a monetized asset. I feel so strongly that art is there for the people that even if I had tons of money I would not buy great art for myself.
I am so glad that the people of Detroit have their museum and that the state's AG is trying hard to protect it.
panader0
(25,816 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...as depicted by that Dutch guy.
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)One day, it will be "that Dutch guy."
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)I'm glad he pays us a visit...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)It is true. I shoulda used THAT art news story...damn...
surrealAmerican
(11,387 posts)I don't know much about 19th century house painting, but I figured oil-based, and pretty much the same pigments the artists were using would have been "industry standard".
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)I guess at that point artists weren't mixing up their own paints and could get them out of tubes but you'd think there would be a real deliniation. Interesting, esp. with van gogh, ...
BainsBane
(53,180 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Sherwin Williams - he covered the globe!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)But no, dear...those are, um, horses...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Well Picasso's Three Musicians don't look a whole lot like musicians to me.
#1 is just a painting. They got the oxen wrong and, in classic European style, replaced the building with a gothic church!
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)horseshoecrab
(944 posts)#4, Picasso's "Woman in an Armchair" is one of 78 cubist paintings, 33 of which are Picassos, recently donated to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC by Leonard Lauder.
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)a really Big Deal. I just wonder what MoMA thinks about it...
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)#1 is "Salisbury Cathedral from the Meadow" by John Constable.
I guess the story is that it was just purchased by the Tate Gallery to keep it in England?
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)This painting has a sad back story. Constable painted it at the behest of a friend who was the archdeacon of the Cathedral, because Constable's wife had died of TB at age 41, leaving her grieving husband with 7 children. Constable was in the depths of grief and this was his way to paint through it, altho he never really got over his wife's death. You can see the sad touches of it in his stunted tree stump and the other tree that looks like it might fall down at any moment. The lone person in the cart is hunched over and the horses seem tired and struggling. We don't know if the storm has come and is going or if it looms near. A man's grief on canvas...
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)right.
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)But the guy really struggled with his sadness.
blm
(113,302 posts)CTyankee
(64,047 posts)not seen the actual works. Incredible work out of that...
blm
(113,302 posts)however, it often gets sidelined by the enormity of what came after the publishing of that iconic photo.
http://matuschka.net/homepage.html
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Photo caption: Canadian VitaPro mogul, philanthropist, and collector Yank Barry showing off one of his 74 Degas bronzes, cast from "recently discovered" plasters.
By William D. Cohan Posted 08/15/11
A dealer's appraisal of bronzes cast from plasters said to be authentic lifetime works by Degas adds to the controversial nature of the enterprise.
A controversy over 74 plaster casts attributed to Edgar Degas that were supposedly discovered in a French foundry has spread to a dealers appraisal of the bronzes cast from the plasters. The most respected Degas experts in the United States have questioned the origin of the plasters, but last year the New York art dealer Stewart Waltzer appraised the set of 74 bronzes at $37.25 million. The most valuable sculpture in the set, Little Dancer Aged Fourteen, is worth $15 million, Waltzer wrote in his appraisal.
The experts who question the legitimacy and the quality of the plasters range from Gary Tinterow, chair of the department of 19th-century, modern, and contemporary art at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, to Daphne S. Barbour and Shelley G. Sturman, National Gallery of Art conservators who published their detailed technical analyses of the NGAs holdings in the new catalogue raisonné Edgar Degas Sculpture. One expert told ARTnews that the Waltzer appraisal adds to the controversial nature of the enterprise to sell the bronzes as if they were legitimate Degas sculptures.
The plasters were reportedly discovered recently in the Valsuani foundry, outside of Paris. According to New York art dealer Walter Maibaum, he was shown the plasters in 2004 by foundry owner Leonardo Benatov, with whom he reached a deal to have them cast in bronze and made available for sale. Maibaum shared the discovery with another New York dealer, Gregory Hedberg, director of European art at Hirschl & Adler Galleries. Hedberg, after close examination of the plasters, concluded that they had been made during Degass lifetime.
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http://www.artnews.com/2011/08/15/adding-to-the-confusion/
CTyankee
(64,047 posts)I don't know if he's legit, tho. I have my reservations...just sayin' ....
But, who knows, right?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Looks like it will remain an open question unless new evidence turns up. Either way, though, the new bronzes are interesting.