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The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:05 PM Feb 2012

Awesome Amendment to "Personhood": the "Spilled Semen" Clause

I have been waiting for years for someone to propose this...Thank you State Senator Constance Johnson of Oklahoma for making my day...

"Oklahoma State Senator Constance Johnson, a Democrat, has offered an amendment to the “personhood” bill pending in the state legislature. The pending bill, if passed, would declare that “the unborn child at every stage of development (has) all the rights, privileges, and immunities available to other persons, citizens, and residents of this state.”

Johnson writes that “the Personhood bill would potentially allow governmental intrusion into families’ personal lives by policing what happens to a woman’s eggs without any similar thought to what happens to a man’s sperm.” Her amendment reads:"

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/788681/awesome_amendment_to_%22personhood%22:_the_%22spilled_semen%22_clause/#paragraph4

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Awesome Amendment to "Personhood": the "Spilled Semen" Clause (Original Post) The empressof all Feb 2012 OP
Think of the job potential, "Now Hiring for Sperm Police!" RKP5637 Feb 2012 #1
Yes. How many fertilized eggs never came into existence at all HockeyMom Feb 2012 #2
Hmmm, anal conception! That will be interesting one! lol RKP5637 Feb 2012 #8
Not so crazy you know. There was the "Homunculus" theory yellowcanine Feb 2012 #3
I just called Senator Johnson's office. DURHAM D Feb 2012 #4
Well it looks like Sen Johnson is a good-un The empressof all Feb 2012 #5
Me too, empress. Thanks for posting this. kag Feb 2012 #6
!!!!!!! elleng Feb 2012 #7
I loved that part.. The empressof all Feb 2012 #9
Now do it in Congress! Zalatix Feb 2012 #10
Could be the 21st century version of "Don't Spill the Beans." TheManInTheMac Feb 2012 #11
LOL RKP5637 Feb 2012 #12
I found this gem from Amazon discussion board Bryn Feb 2012 #13
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
2. Yes. How many fertilized eggs never came into existence at all
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:21 PM
Feb 2012

because of masturbation, a condom, oral, or anal sex (yes, with a woman)? GOD, according to the Catholic church, says they MUST be conceived. Don't REFUSE his "gifts".

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
3. Not so crazy you know. There was the "Homunculus" theory
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:32 PM
Feb 2012

Basically each sperm had a little person (Homonculus) inside of it.
Of course there was room for debate as to whether the little person was in the egg or in the sperm. In Biblical times however, without a doubt the thinking would have been that the "man's seed" contained little people. Hence the reason why "Onanism" (jerking off) was such a great sin. Actually in the case of Onan it was not masturbation but coitus interruptus.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus

http://www.religioustolerance.org/masturba3.htm

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
4. I just called Senator Johnson's office.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:33 PM
Feb 2012

I just wanted to let her know the rest of the country has noticed. I told the staff member I went out to dinner this past Saturday night and everyone in the group knew about the "Sacred Sperm" amendment.

The staffer was surprised and that is exactly why I called - it is hard to judge reaction from inside the asylum that is the Oklahoma legislature.

Her office # (405) 521 5531

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
5. Well it looks like Sen Johnson is a good-un
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:37 PM
Feb 2012

And has a sense of humor too. Even in The heart of a red state a little blue "common sense" humor breaks through.

kag

(4,079 posts)
6. Me too, empress. Thanks for posting this.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:27 PM
Feb 2012

When I talk to my kids about abortion the eventual question always comes up "but what if they're right?" In other words, "when DO we start to protect people?" I always tell my kids that I don't presume to know the answer to that question, but I do know that when a woman gets pregnant it's HER body that has a dependent organism growing inside her, and HER life is worth at least as much as that organism--if not more since SHE is not dependent on another human to live.

But to the point, I always tell them that if the fundamentalists are so concerned about protecting not just fetuses, but blastosmeres and zygotes, then they can damn well stop flushing their sperm down the toilet. Because who's to say that "life" hasn't already begun before sperm meets egg?

Again, thanks for posting.

elleng

(130,861 posts)
7. !!!!!!!
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:55 PM
Feb 2012

“provided, however, any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman’s vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child.”

TheManInTheMac

(985 posts)
11. Could be the 21st century version of "Don't Spill the Beans."
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:34 PM
Feb 2012

"Don't spill the semen!" could be yelled just before a top-heavy bucket of jizz spills out on the game board.

Bryn

(3,621 posts)
13. I found this gem from Amazon discussion board
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:53 PM
Feb 2012

If a squirrel eats acorns he is not destroying forests.

According to Aristotle, an acorn has the "potentiality" of becoming an oak tree but it is not "actually" an oak tree.

That is pretty ancient reasoning on the subject and still makes rational sense.

If I fry a fertilized hens egg, it is still an omelet, not fried chicken.
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