Who is your pick for 2016

[ProSense]

35 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	Hillary Clinton
	3 (9%)
	Howard Dean
	5 (14%)
	Martin O'Malley
	0 (0%)
	Elizabeth Warren
	14 (40%)
	Other
	2 (6%)
	Too early
	11 (31%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[ZombieHorde]

1. Dennis Kucinich. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Honestly, I wish that wing of the party had a better standard-bearer than kooch.

[Egalitarian Thug]

26. And what, specifically, is wrong with him? Ignoring the 25 year long smear campaign, what has he

ever said or done that is just too wrong to get your support?

[Honeycombe8]

30. He's just not presidential material. He doesn't have a chance of ever winning that nomination.

Better to select someone who has a chance.

Google stats on past presidents, and you'll get a picture of the kind of people who win that office. Plus, he's not popular among the general population.

Just because someone is a good flag bearer for a few issues doesn't make him good presidential material. So much else is involved in that.

[Egalitarian Thug]

35. I don't disagree that Americans are profoundly ignorant and shallow, I was

just curious if there was anything substantial behind your wish.

What if his wife ran?

[bluedigger]

61. Well, there's this...

[Egalitarian Thug]

66. Is this supposed to make a point? An answer? He's not good looking? He wants to make a nice paycheck

for a change?

That he's just about the only politician that went to DC, was reelected 8 times and didn't get rich in the process? Is that what you admire? Is that what you require to earn respect?

[bluedigger]

69. He's a contributor to Fox News.

I guess he found a way to make his coin, didn't he? I can't respect that.

[Egalitarian Thug]

74. You don't think there's difference between doing it while in office and after?

It's OK for a thoroughly corrupt pig like Feinstein to steal somewhere in the neighborhood of $100,000,000 dollars while in office, but Dennis K. is not allowed to earn a paycheck that he needs after leaving because he didn't steal while serving?

How very Democratic of you.

[Warren DeMontague]

65. You mean, aside from the UFOs? Okay, for one I -did- support him early in the '08 primary process

At least after it became clear Al Gore wasnt gettng in.

But I happen to think dedicated progressives could do better. Hell, Al Sharpton, to my mind, made for a far more compelling candidate. He kicked ass at every debate he was on.

But I dont buy that Kucinich is some lone voice in the wilderness. While I originally thought the guy was a blow-dried Marina yuppie, I think someone like Gavin Newsom would be good as a rising voice in the party.

[Egalitarian Thug]

73. You think that a known fraud, a notorious and completely transparent con-man that created

his celebrity by piggy-backing on a media circus surrounding a proven fraud and continuing to back it up long after it was proven to be an outright lie, is better than Dennis Kucinich?

Really?

Have you ever bothered to learn about the UFO? No, of course not. Your reply is evidence of that. He saw an object flying that he could not explain. He did not declare it aliens or spirits or anything at all. All the "controversy" was wholly manufactured, first by a celebrity trying to sell her book, and then by the right wing media smear machine.

I've seen flying objects that I could not explain, and so have millions of other people. I don't believe they were anything except something I cannot explain.

If you're going to criticize him, at least pick on his "change of heart" regarding abortion.

[Warren DeMontague]

75. there's that, too.

Anyway, I don't think Kooch can ever be more than a footnote. I just don't think he's the leader we could use.

As for Sharpton, like I said- at least he provided some of the best lines in those debates.

I think we need new leaders, though.

[zeeland]

60. While it's a sad commentary on US

politics, I doubt we will ever have another president that
fails to meet a standard of attractiveness set by the public.
Our greatest Presidents wouldn't be.

[amuse bouche]

89. It doesn't even matter what he thinks

He's too short for the voters

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Hillary!

Because a decade without a new war is just too darned long.

[L0oniX]

3. +1 ...for war, drones and the National Snooping Asscarrots.

[Warren DeMontague]

4. I almost said Martin O'Malley

but then I realized I was thinking of Martin Mull.

[blkmusclmachine]

5. After Clinton/Obama, NO MORE DINOS, DLC, Third Way, Blue Dogs, or "New" Democrats.

Send those wanna-be Republicans back to the GOPee.

[yurbud]

7. If we can't knock them out of key leadership positions, it's time to form a third party

Call it the Progressive Democrats or whatever, and certainly make room for non-corporate owned Democratic politicians like Alan Grayson, Elizabeth Warren, and the dozen or two more who don't toe the DLC line.

[newfie11]

20. +billions Nt

[forestpath]

11. +1000

[ProSense]

45. It's too bad Obama can't run for a third term.

He'd have my vote.

[Ohio Joe]

6. Who do I want to win or who do I think will win?

My answer would not be the same.

[yurbud]

8. I would be surprised if it wasn't Hillary, but her campaign seemed to stumble badly last time

or maybe Obama just made a better pitch to the Wall Street folks, so in the media, he could do no wrong and Hillary could do no right.

[Warren DeMontague]

14. How about who you would vote for in the primary?

If you're like me, both those factors go into that calculation.

[Ohio Joe]

16. Right now, my gut is telling me I want Biden...

I suspect I will change my mind at least twice by the time the actual primary gets here though I really like Warren but I don't think she would be given a shot by the party... For the moment though I will stick with Biden.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. I dont think he's going to run.

To get my primary vote he'd also need to do a 180 on his previous stature as a mega apologist for the drug war. That RAVE act of his was a spectacularly bad piece of legislation.

[Ohio Joe]

33. oh... I had forgotten about that... Yeah, that was not very good

I don't think it's enough to sway me at this time but it is something to keep in mind.

[Egalitarian Thug]

28. Right, cause Senator Citibank is such a great champion of the "little people".

He takes the train to work, he's a regular Joe like me.

[SidDithers]

9. Al Franken and Jill Stein...nt

Sid

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Who are you and what have you done with Sid?

[WillyT]

21. LOL !!!

[SidDithers]

22. I just want a Franken / Stein bumper sticker...

Sid

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Yowch.

[RetroLounge]

62. Thread winner!

RL

[graham4anything]

77. How about a Franken/Weiner?

[HappyMe]

86. DUzy

[Honeycombe8]

32. I don't think Franken has a chance, but I'd consider him, if he'd run. nt

[Warpy]

10. I wish Brian Schweitzer wanted the job

but he's far too intelligent.

Howard Dean has made some noises about pursuing it, so I suppose I'll be a Deaniac.

It's too soon for Warren and she'd be fought tooth and nail the way Jimmy Carter was and by both parties.

Clinton is just too conservative. I didn't support her in the 2008 primary and I won't support her now, if she even runs.

[grasswire]

36. Dean and Schweitzer would be a dream ticket. nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

76. You and me both.

I'd get behind that 100%.

[graham4anything]

12. I would vote for anyone who is the democratic candidate for President, however.

HIllary is going to be the candidate and shall win the biggest landslide ever.

Unlike others, I am not going to put any of the candidates down for their politics, as it is a useless, and a very divisive thing to do.

If Hillary don't run, there are a lot of other candidates who would

IMHO a woman will be the next President, a democratic woman.

Now, if Hillary doesn't run, I would add Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius, Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker(when he wins the senate primary in NJ), Deval Patrick and one is forgetting Michelle Obama, though 2024 is more likely and Joe Biden himself.

Unlike others who toss all these things out against President Obama and Hillary, people forget that one is going to need their major supporters to win the nomination. And we need to look at 270 and more.

There is not going to be an unknown running for the republicans.
And history shows us things and try as the people who don't like the President can, they will NOT make the President dis-honest
(though some are trying hard.)

People don't seem to realize that the Obama and Hillary supporters time and again have seen all the smears and put downs
and people will not change that opinion. In fact, the more crap that is thrown at them, the more the votes are already locked in.

Add Joe Biden to the mix, and he takes away the space for anyone else and Joe can and may just be the VP for Hillary, at least for the first term(there is good logic to not have someone ultra eager to be President), and Edwards comes to mind about the exact wrong type of VP.

Maybe Hillary will pick Howard Dean.

I personally would like the people in the senate to remain in the senate (both Warren and Booker).
Hard enough to win seats at this very point in time (other years were different).

I don't expect most of the people on the above list or on the ones I said to run if Hillary runs.

Some will run for VP.

The object is to get to 270 easily. I think Hillary will win 500.

If someone shows me exactly which and how many states others can win, I will listen, and I will 100% vote for whomever is the pick.
I just know whomever it is better win the general.

And as I have said, we might just be going against Jeb Bush/Rand Paul and Rand would NOT refuse the offer.
(especially as I think the odds are good he cannot win reelection to his senate seat and won't try at all.)


my vote though is for Hillary above. 6/21/2013 as Michelle and the President himself are not running.

[Proud Public Servant]

64. So you see Hilary

Picking up all but four or five deep red states? Everything except, say, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Oklahoma, and Utah? Everything else?

What color is the sky in your world?

[graham4anything]

72. Oklahoma is ripe for the picking.

Many great democratic people in Oklahoma

Why look at the tornado and climate change.

And while the leaders of Oklahoma are draconian, not all the people living there are.

Maybe some now wonder how the senator there doesn't believe in climate change.

But of course, if one keeps saying they can't, well, that little engine never would have gotten up that hill would it?

[Proud Public Servant]

90. That would be the same Oklahoma

Where every single county went for Romney in 2012? Seriously, every single one. THAT'S your idea of "ripe for the picking"? Okey-dokey.

[graham4anything]

91. A woman might get a different vote & women make up 52%, don't they?

It is total cume, not individual districts.
If the voters come out to vote

It's the decade now of the women, and I think it is a whole new ballgame.

[burnodo]

15. The Eagles in 6 games

Or possibly the Edmonton Oilers

[TheKentuckian]

17. Sherrod Brown tends to make the most overall sense to me.

Nobody is perfect but I think he is a serious guy from a big swing state that has a pretty damn solid track record at high levels spending solid time in the House before coming to the Senate where he has actually been a real Senator not a stepping stone position.

May not have an interest in the world in running but I say a way above average option.

[Jim Lane]

85. I voted "Other" thinking primarily of Sherrod Brown

...although Sheldon Whitehouse also interests me.

[dkf]

23. I'm waiting to see where they stand on surveillance.

[DURHAM D]

25. I don't care as long as it is an all female ticket.

By that I mean a female for President and female for Vice-President.

Hillary, Elizabeth or Kirstin Gillibrand at the top and Kamala Harris for V-P.

Democrats will have to really shake things up to have any chance and we have a very very shallow bench compared to the Republicans.

If we don't run two women Paul will win. Period.

[BlueStater]

29. "we have a very shallow bench compared to the Republicans."

Thanks for the laugh.

[DURHAM D]

37. We have exactly one A-lister.

The Republicans have a bunch they are in love with. Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Christie to name a few. They will all be running against the government; easy to do given that pretty much everyone is pissed for one reason or another. The Independents will decide this election and they will be voting against the establishment so the Dems need to change the optics on our establishment in order to have any chance.

Otherwise say goodbye to the White House for at least 8 years.

[BlueStater]

39. Christie is the only serious candidate of that bunch.

The other three you mentioned are clowns. Name recognition doesn't equal substance. If that was the case, Newt Gingrich would be president right now.

[DURHAM D]

44. The vast majority of Americans do not vote on issues or substance.

They vote on style and unfortunately in 2016 the style points will go to the candidate they think is the most pissed at Washington and will change the status quo.

Therefore the only chance the Democrats have is to find a whole new way to change the status quo and that is by running two women.

[JDPriestly]

79. Christie is discourteous and downright mean. He can't control his temper

and is very conceited. But he is a very dominant personality. I don't think he could win the women's vote. He is just too disgusting personality wise.

[Logical]

27. Not fair Prosense, you need to vote in your own poll!! n-t

[ProSense]

31. No, I don't "need to." Did you vote? n/t

[Logical]

38. Yes, for Warren. And I know you don't "need" to but it would be nice. n-t

[ProSense]

42. If you insist

Warren-Harris 2016

[Logical]

54. Well, I 100% agree with you on that one! n-t

[graham4anything]

80. Kamala Harris?

[1-Old-Man]

34. My vote? Elizabeth Warren, but I know full well it will never happen

Its been a mighty long time since the Democratic Party picked a Democrat to Represent them. The last I recall was Jimmy Carter, but the landscape has been bleak ever since. Clinton and Obama held out a lot of hope, but in action they didn't or haven't proved to be much interested in the people who put them in Office.

[cherokeeprogressive]

40. GOTTA be someone other than the usual also rans... n/t

[longship]

41. Too fucking early!!! And it will NOT be Liz Warren.

IMHO, the Democratic Party needs strong liberals in government, like Ted Kennedy, whose seat (do I have to remind people) Elizabeth Warren is filling.

If I thought she ran for Senate just to use it as a skipping stone to a fast White House candidacy, I would never have supported her in the first place.

Those blowing the Warren/2016 trumpet ought to think about that for a minute, or two, or more.

Or maybe they ought to realize that the USA has a presidential election every four years, but the USA, and only the USA has this apparently two year brutal partisan cage match presidential selection process.

Why in the Sam Fuck would any sane human being want to make it a fucking four year campaign?

Fuck all this 2016 talk.

And it is very likely I will not be supporting either Hillary or Elizabeth since it is very likely that neither will be running.

In the meantime, here at DU...
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!

Sheesh!

[BlueStater]

46. Her running is just a pipe dream around here.

She won't. And considering I think she would make a bad GE candidate, I'm happy about this. She barely won her senate seat in a blue state so that hardly indicates to me she would have national appeal.

[longship]

48. Agreed. But she will be a great Senator.

If she can keep her seat in apparently fickle Mass.

[Jamaal510]

43. It's amazing how DU's 2016 Dem poll have Warren leading,

yet all the ones that they show on TV and elsewhere have Hillary leading by a long shot instead. I'm not sure who to believe.

[DURHAM D]

47. I doubt if Senator Warren has 40% name recognition.

She will need to do a lot more national press.

[MannyGoldstein]

51. Hillary is inevitable?

Like last time?

[Agschmid]

57. The national polls which do not sample a

Largely progressive majority here on DU.

That's who I'd trust!

[Beacool]

70. Believe elsewhere, DU is not the real world.

It's the equivalent of the Freepers, but on the Left. Over there they think that Sarah Palin and the rest of the Baggers have a chance at being president, the nuttier the better. They consider Jeb and Christie as too moderate. They are also hating on Rubio because of immigration reform.

[JI7]

71. i believe Kucinich led DU polls at times, and in 2008 i think Edwards

had more support than Clinton and Obama.

[Triana]

49. Elizabeth Warren and Alan Grayson n/t

[longship]

50. I'd wager dollars to doughnuts that neither Hillary nor Liz runs.

Hillary because she wants to retire.

Elizabeth because she just won her first Senate seat and I think that she has more ethics than ambition. If I am wrong than I am sorry that I ever supported her. I guess many here don't see it that way, or maybe don't see anything at all.

Regardless, see my post above about the utter silliness of this 2016 bullshit.

[politicasista]

52. Waiting to see how 2014 plays out

A darkhorse.




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[MelungeonWoman]

53. I voted for Dean

But in reality I never get to pick. I live in Ohio.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

55. Joe Biden 2016!!!!

[Agschmid]

56. So at this moment 45 of you...

have lost touch with reality. If we want to win Warren is not the right pick, although she handily beat Scott Brown a national election is something completely different.

My vote is it is way to early to call.

[OilemFirchen]

58. They're all One Percenters.

So I'll spend election day pissing and moaning, then a few days after the election start gloating.

Maybe during the primary I'll start seeding an iggy list.

[duuser5822]

59. Elizabeth Warren

Honestly though, I wish Kucinich would run, and win. But that's just a pipe dream...

[tarheelsunc]

63. What, no Rand Paul?

Come on, I'm sure if he was an option he'd have at least 5-10 votes now. Kind of sad that I actually believe that DUers would vote for him, but it certainly seems that way sometimes.

Now, if the poll was 100% anonymous, there's absolutely no telling...

[Tx4obama]

67. I'm surprised no one has tossed out the name...

''SNOWDEN''... since he seems to be the new hero of the week

[Beacool]

68. How many of these polls are we going to have until the actual election season starts?

[applegrove]

78. Hillary is so warm, strong, brilliant,

compassionate and perceptive. The world would do well to have her as President. But I still think Obama has some fight left in him so I'll concentrate my hopes in him.

[chknltl]

81. Barrack Hussein Obama

(Somewhere across this great land....
in some parents basement....
a lurking freeper's melon...
.... just went all Galagher)

[chknltl]

82. Senator Patty Murray (Wa) nt

[Loudly]

83. "Too Early" is a prayer that someone quickly emerges.

The bench is desperately empty.

[LostOne4Ever]

84. After listening to all the debate about Obama

and how we shouldn't have to vote for the lesser of two evils I have decided to vote for

Cthulhu. No more lesser of two evils for me!

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[hobbit709]

87. Don't know. The nominee will once again probably be someone I'll have to hold my nose while voting

Just like in 90% of the elections since 1972.

[B Calm]

88. I don't trust Hillary,

but I think she would win. I like Warren and she would make a great president!