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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:00 PM Feb 2012

Reactor No. 2 temp exceeded 400°C —Tepco: "device broken" — Fallout INCREASE measured

Monday, February 13, 2012
TEPCO Evening Press Conference 2/13/2012: Reactor 2 RPV Thermocouple Is Broken, Matsumoto Says



...Q: Who decided that the thermocouple was broken? Was the manufacturer consulted?
A: TEPCO decided. We have experience in maintenance of the thermocouple. (Matsumoto sounds very testy.)

Q: Is there a possibility of a thermocouple showing temperature lower than what really is and therefore it is broken?
A: If this thermocouple were correct, there would be other thermocouples that would show higher temperature. The other temperatures are trending down. So we think this particular thermocouple is broken.

Q: The temperature rise in early February - was it related to the instrument failure now?
A: We think so. But we didn't know at that time whether it was actually a rise in temperature or the instrument failure. The temperature did go down after increasing the water injection.

Q: How reliable is it to judge "recriticality" by xenon-135?
A: We think it is a reliable indicator.

Q: When was 342.2 degrees Celsius recorded?
A: We finished the testing at 2:54PM. So it must be between that time and 3PM. We'll have to check.

Q: How high did the temperature go? (looking at the graph that was provided)
A: It went overscale, so the graph shows temperatures like that [over 400 degrees Celsius].

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2012/02/tepco-evening-press-conference-2132012.html



MEANWHILE...



Fall-out intensively increased in Fukushima
Posted by Mochizuki on February 13th, 2012 · 4 Comments

While reactor2 was being heated, fall-out level in Fukushima intensively increased.

Until 9:00 AM of 2/11/2012,

Cesium 134 : 4.45 MBq/km2

Cesium 137 : 6.46 MBq/km2


However, 9:00 AM 2/11/2012 ~ 9:00 AM 2/12/2012,

Cesium 134 : 98.2 MBq/km2

Cesium 137 : 139 MBq/km2



http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/02/fall-out-intensively-increased-in-fukushima/

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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
1. For the life of me, I cannot understand why this is dropping like a stone.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:12 PM
Feb 2012

If there is anyone with knowledge, who can provide some insight into what they think is going on, I would love to hear from them.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
5. I always click into these reports but I am a total novice in this are. I usually get nothing out of
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:49 PM
Feb 2012

the posts because it is pretty scientific. For instance what I got out of this was that the thermometor is broken and the owner of the plant was the one who said it was broken. Even so radiation levels are on the rise.

The

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
7. At this point I think we are just resigned
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:53 PM
Feb 2012

I try to read all the messages about Fukushima, but I don't know enough about the subject to really discuss the implications of the data.

I feel about it the same way I feel about global climate change - there is not much I can do to alter the course that our planet is headed. It sucks but events are in motion and since the powers that be chose not to change things there is nothing I can do as an individual.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
11. The spike in radioactive cesium 137 was at 2 am today, the water temp. rise some hrs later.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:04 PM
Feb 2012

That sounds like the right sequence of events, anyway. Definitely a strong indication of re-criticality, if this continues.

opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
12. They shoulda woulda coulda syndrome....NOW WHAT!!!???? OOPsss ! Sorry bout this"... Gonna fuck your
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:09 PM
Feb 2012

waters for the next 30,000 years...."

WTF is going on over there...? JHCHRIST!!

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