US asked Hong Kong to detain Snowden on a provisional arrest warrant **June 14**

[dkf]

No clear answers why Snowden remains free despite U.S. request for his arrest

HONG KONG — More than a week has passed since U.S. officials asked the Hong Kong government to arrest Edward Snowden, but the whereabouts of the former contractor who leaked documents about top-level surveillance programs remained unknown Saturday.

The reason for the apparent lack of action in the case is unclear. The delay could be related to the issuing of the warrant. Or officials may still be looking for Snowden, who is believed to be in Hong Kong but could also have found a way to leave the semiautonomous region.

The U.S. government asked Hong Kong to detain Snowden on a provisional arrest warrant June 14, the same day it filed criminal charges against him, including theft, “unauthorized communication of national defense information” and “willful communication of classified communications intelligence information to an unauthorized person.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/snowden-not-yet-arrested-despite-us-request/2013/06/22/ab944ca4-db23-11e2-a9f2-42ee3912ae0e_story.html

[Cali_Democrat]

1. New Snowden leak:

Snowden: US hacks Chinese mobile phone messages
Source: GMA News

HONG KONG - The United States government hacks Chinese mobile phone companies to gather millions of text messages, former CIA agent Edward Snowden said in a report published in the South China Morning Post (SCMP) on Saturday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014515190

That Snowden is a REAL patriot

[dkf]

2. This is a worldwide data capture that we are fighting against.

You think it's a good thing that we have all the private info of everyone in the world with which to blackmail and control? It's sick.

I am as offended for our fellow man in all countries as I am for our people. We are the snake in the grass invading through our technology.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. And what about Chinese espionage against the USA?

How do you propose we stop that? Countries have spied on each other for centuries.

You think the United States is the only country in the world that engages in espionage?

[dlwickham]

4. no one cares about anyone spying on the US

we're the bad guys

[dkf]

6. Against ALL its civilians? That is sick and some sort of perverse power trip.

Go on and explore defensive strategies. But normal people who have no impact on top secret programs should not be caught up. This is a HUMANRIGHTS type of violation. Wrecking the trust and privacy of people around the globe is wrong.

And if I did find out the Chinese are pulling in all my info I will be pissed at them too. But there seems one HUGE violator and its us. Oh and the UK.

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Chinese hacking against the USA is widespread. Here's the most recent revelation:

Chinese hackers steal U.S. weapons systems designs, report says

Chinese hackers have gained access to designs of more than two dozen major U.S. weapons systems, a U.S. report said on Monday, as Australian media said Chinese hackers had stolen the blueprints for Australia's new spy headquarters.

Citing a report prepared for the Defense Department by the Defense Science Board, the Washington Post said the compromised U.S. designs included those for combat aircraft and ships, as well as missile defenses vital for Europe, Asia and the Gulf.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18556787-chinese-hackers-steal-us-weapons-systems-designs-report-says?lite

So the US can't hack China, we can only "explore defensive strategies" according to you.

For some odd reason, I don't even think you believe what you're saying. Seems like hyperbole.

[dkf]

8. Like I said...hacking for defense type info will be done on all sides.

I guess we can't really complain though can we. We've one upped them, Zeno-Ed them in fact.

[Cali_Democrat]

11. Not just "defense type info". Industrial espionage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/world/asia/wide-china-push-is-seen-to-obtain-industry-secrets.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

You really had no clue about Chinese espionage against the USA?

[dkf]

12. Lol. Have you seen what we do?

Microsoft lets the government know of security bugs before they fix it for Gods sakes.

How can you say those things are bad when the Chinese do it when our efforts are far more broad and invasive. You are MORE THAN JUSTIFYING THEIR BEHAVIOR.

If you don't support privacy then you've got no reason to be upset.

[dkf]

10. I Choose human beings. I choose the ability to use technology without being snooped on.

Who else is on the other side of your equation against Obama?

[dkf]

13. That's actually kind of sick...be for worldwide surveillance or be against the US.

I hope that isn't the choice you've set up for yourself.

[Catherina]

5. Legal experts: US could face lengthy diplomatic, legal process to try NSA whistleblower in US court

Edward Snowden extradition attempts 'could take years'

Hong Kong legal experts say US could face lengthy diplomatic and legal process to try NSA whistleblower in American court

Conal Urquhart and agencies
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 22 June 2013 10.22 BST

...

The warning comes after it emerged on Friday that the US has charged Snowden with theft of government property, unauthorised communication of national defence information and wilful communication of classified communications intelligence to an unauthorised person. The latter two charges are part of the US Espionage Act.

Legislators in Hong Kong responded by calling for mainland China to intervene in the case. Snowden, 29, who is reportedly in hiding in Hong Kong, was last seen on 10 June. He is understood to have made contact with human rights lawyers in anticipation of a legal action from the US.

The US and Hong Kong have had an extradition treaty since 1998, a year after Hong Kong was transferred from British to Chinese rule. Scores of Americans have been sent back for trial under the treaty.

While espionage and theft of state secrets are not cited specifically in the treaty, equivalent charges could be pressed against Snowden under Hong Kong's official secrets ordinance, legal experts said.

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/22/edward-snowden-extradition-take-years