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sad sally

(2,627 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:42 PM Feb 2012

There are rumbles about America's need to arm Syrian rebels (on the sly, of course)

But what happens if the rebels are already being armed by one of our most dreaded terrorists, al Qaida's Ayman al Zawahiri? And via Iraq, no less? Iraq’s Deputy Interior Minister Adnan al-Assadi said in an interview with the press on Saturday that AQI has snuck across the border to aid the Syrian opposition forces with arms. ”We have intelligence information that a number of Iraqi jihadists went to Syria,” he said, adding that “weapons smuggling is still ongoing” from Iraq into Syria.

“The weapons are being smuggled from Mosul through the Rabia crossing to Syria, as members of the same families live on both sides of the border,” Assadi said.

U.S. officials: Al Qaida behind Syria bombings
By Jonathan S. Landay | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — The Iraqi branch of al Qaida, seeking to exploit the bloody turmoil in Syria to reassert its potency, carried out two recent bombings in the Syrian capital, Damascus, and likely was behind suicide bombings Friday that killed at least 28 people in the largest city, Aleppo, U.S. officials told McClatchy.

The officials cited U.S. intelligence reports on the incidents, which appear to verify Syrian President Bashar Assad's charges of al Qaida involvement in the 11-month uprising against his rule. The Syrian opposition has claimed that Assad's regime, which has responded with massive force against the uprising, staged the bombings to discredit the pro-democracy movement calling for his ouster.

The international terrorist network's presence in Syria also raises the possibility that Islamic extremists will try to hijack the uprising, which would seriously complicate efforts by the United States and its European and Arab partners to force Assad's regime from power. On Friday, President Barack Obama repeated his call for Assad to step down, accusing his forces of "outrageous bloodshed."

The U.S. intelligence reports indicate that the bombings came on the orders of Ayman al Zawahiri, the Egyptian extremist who assumed leadership of al Qaida's Pakistan-based central command after the May 2011 death of Osama bin Laden. They suggest that Zawahiri still wields considerable influence over the network's affiliates despite the losses the Pakistan-based core group has suffered from missile-firing CIA drones and other intensified U.S. counterterrorism operations.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/02/10/138593/us-officials-al-qaida-behind-syria.html#storylink=cpy

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There are rumbles about America's need to arm Syrian rebels (on the sly, of course) (Original Post) sad sally Feb 2012 OP
There's only one tool we know how to use anymore gratuitous Feb 2012 #1
Ain't that the truth. From the bipartisan group of Senators last Friday, on their attempt sad sally Feb 2012 #2
What the hell does that mean, anyway? gratuitous Feb 2012 #3
Like US past heresies are a matter of record? (and yep, I know they are) sad sally Feb 2012 #4
Not surprising, Obama's administration sold guns to Mexican drug dealers. nt jody Feb 2012 #5
Wonder where the Iraqis got the weapons they're selling the Syrians? Hmmm... sad sally Feb 2012 #8
really? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #6
May war never come to that sweet baby sad sally Feb 2012 #7
To any baby nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #9
we love AQ in some countries, in others it'll take a longer time to warm up to them MisterP Feb 2012 #10

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. There's only one tool we know how to use anymore
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:45 PM
Feb 2012

But dammitall if every problem doesn't look exactly like a nail. The hammer it is!

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
2. Ain't that the truth. From the bipartisan group of Senators last Friday, on their attempt
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:16 PM
Feb 2012

to support the hammer (probably air-gun style, like Libya):

“The Senate… urges the President to support an effective transition to democracy in Syria by identifying and providing substantial material and technical support, upon request, to Syrian organizations that are representative of the people of Syria, make demonstrable commitments to protect human rights and religious freedom, reject terrorism, cooperate with international counterterrorism and nonproliferation efforts, and abstain from destabilizing neighboring countries.”

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. What the hell does that mean, anyway?
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:22 PM
Feb 2012

This looks remarkably like the nonsense that got us entangled with such sterling examples of democracy as the Shah of Iran and others. We've just substituted "anti-communist" with "counterterrorism." Anyone who says he's against terrorism is going to get the benefit of our military largesse. "Organizations that are representative of the people of Syria" - wouldn't the current government of Syria qualify under that rubric? After all, they represent some of the people of Syria, don't they?

But I'm just a dirty fucking hippie who's never had a combat buddy next to me get blown away, so my voice/vote doesn't count.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
4. Like US past heresies are a matter of record? (and yep, I know they are)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:42 PM
Feb 2012

If only Americans didn't have such short memories, but them that seem to love the idea of a humanitarian bully are chomping at the bits to depose another evil leader - damn the cost, man/woman the weapons.

sad sally

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8. Wonder where the Iraqis got the weapons they're selling the Syrians? Hmmm...
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 11:43 PM
Feb 2012

Nowhere is the cross-border nature of sectarian hostilities more clear than in Iraq’s western desert, where Sunni Arabs are beginning to rally to the cause of the Syrian opposition and, in the process, perhaps strengthen their hand in dealings with an antagonistic Shiite-led national government in Baghdad.

A weapons dealer who operates in Anbar, who said he goes by the alias Ahmed al-Masri, said, “Five months ago I was told that the Syrian brothers are in need of weapons. I started to buy the weapons from the same guys that I previously sold to — the fighters of Anbar and Mosul. I used to bring them from Syria; now it’s the other way around.”

The man said he was selling mortars, grenades and rifles, and that his contact in Syria was also an Iraqi. In some instances, he said Iraqis were giving away weapons, and in those cases he charged money only to transport them across the border.

“It’s a good business, but it’s not easy money,” he said. “It’s risky, but this is life.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/world/middleeast/for-iraqis-aid-to-syrian-rebels-repays-a-war-debt.html



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