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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:29 PM Jun 2013

For the third time this year, a family in Tennessee has accidentally shot their own baby.

GunFAIL XXIII by David Waldman

(snip)

Otherwise, it's your usual assortment of mishaps, stupidity, bad luck, poor judgment, lack of attention to safety rules, etc. It was a week of threes, though. Three fellow patriots exercised their right to override their neighbors' decisions about guns on their property, liberating them from the projectile-free lifestyle by sheer force of American exceptionalism. Three more patriots gave their cold, dead hands a rest, leaving their guns behind in areas where well-regulated militias were sure to put them to the most efficient use, specifically, underneath a hotel room mattress, and in the restrooms of a movie theater and a salad bar-less Applebees. Still three more of our friends shot themselves cleaning and/or fixing loaded weapons, while one more did so while examining a gun he was considering buying. No word on the "you break it, you bought it" policy there. Three law enforcement officers experienced GunFAILs this week, though only one officer actually shot herself. And we count three wounds resulting from target shooting accidents this week, as well.

Oh, yes. And this week also marks the third time this year that a family in Tennessee has accidentally shot their own baby.

In the category of singular events this week, just one identified killing of a family member mistaken for an intruder, and just one child shot in the neck by celebratory gunfire following the conclusion of the NBA Finals.

Now, without further ado, this week's compilation, below the fold....

Read More: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/22/1216658/-GunFAIL-XXIII
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For the third time this year, a family in Tennessee has accidentally shot their own baby. (Original Post) Robb Jun 2013 OP
Deaths of thousands of kids each year is the only 'tax' the RW gun nuts are happy to pay blm Jun 2013 #1
What, the same family? Same baby? NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #2
Oviously we have to find that family and stop them. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #6
Poor fucking kid NightWatcher Jun 2013 #7
I read it that way too! Jarla Jun 2013 #11
LOL... I thought the same thing. RudynJack Jun 2013 #32
Or, "third tennesee infant this year shot in their home" n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #37
Imagine how many they would have killed if the Spurs won. Ilsa Jun 2013 #3
The answer is clear... We need to start arming the babies Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #4
The arming of toddlers continues apace Robb Jun 2013 #9
There are way too many gun owners xxqqqzme Jun 2013 #5
And too many people who should NEVER be allowed to reproduce. loudsue Jun 2013 #21
Interestingly, there are FEWER American gun owners than two decades ago ... panzerfaust Jun 2013 #23
and the NRA opposes mandatory gun safes BainsBane Jun 2013 #8
They suggested putting a gun safe in the kids room hack89 Jun 2013 #12
Only if the parent is never distracted and ALWAYS closes - AND LOCKS the safe calimary Jun 2013 #14
The notion is deranged BainsBane Jun 2013 #16
I said it was a stupid idea hack89 Jun 2013 #17
Why are you supporting the NRA then? baldguy Jun 2013 #18
Hi - I have missed you stalking me. Take some time off? nt hack89 Jun 2013 #19
I just think people should know who you're representing. baldguy Jun 2013 #25
And yet no one seems to care, do they? hack89 Jun 2013 #26
It's a damn shame kids pay the price mokawanis Jun 2013 #10
scarier than AIDS ninjanurse Jun 2013 #13
Welcome to DU, ninjanurse! calimary Jun 2013 #15
Who knew it was National A.S.K. Day Friday? SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2013 #20
Thanks for the link! Robb Jun 2013 #35
you're welcome. Seems like a no brainer. A police officer hired to monitor a family visit . . . SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2013 #41
K & R n/t malaise Jun 2013 #22
This is so horrible, caseymoz Jun 2013 #24
I followed some links on that page d_r Jun 2013 #27
Can you post that link? rdharma Jun 2013 #28
here you go d_r Jun 2013 #33
Thanks! rdharma Jun 2013 #34
Yes, I watched part of that video. caseymoz Jun 2013 #29
Isn't anyone going to post the big long list of home invasions twarted by firearms? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #30
They fear the much longer list Robb Jun 2013 #38
What's funny is every one of them claims they know someone who had a break in. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #40
No real point hack89 Jun 2013 #39
The biggest predictor of dying by gun violence Warpy Jun 2013 #31
Folks if you have a moment...... please read the following thread and voice opinions TIA! rdharma Jun 2013 #36

blm

(113,039 posts)
1. Deaths of thousands of kids each year is the only 'tax' the RW gun nuts are happy to pay
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jun 2013

to live in this country where background checks for guns are not required 100% of the time.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. What, the same family? Same baby?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:34 PM
Jun 2013

Who writes this shit?

I wish journalists would take a breath as they write the headlines, or at least run them by a neutral observer for a clarity check.

Better:

For third time this year in the state of Tennessee, an infant was shot in the family's home.

Or some such.

Tragic story, really. If families are going to have guns, they should have to have safes/gun locks, take classes, and educational gun safety programs in schools would be helpful, too.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
32. LOL... I thought the same thing.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jun 2013

Terrible headline. I thought one poor baby had been shot 3 times. I would've thought twice would bring protective services into it.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
3. Imagine how many they would have killed if the Spurs won.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jun 2013

I don't understand this celebratory gunfire. I don't understand why women mate with men who are stupid enough to kill their own children they proclaim to love.

Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
4. The answer is clear... We need to start arming the babies
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:48 PM
Jun 2013

Won't anyone think of the children and arm them!

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
21. And too many people who should NEVER be allowed to reproduce.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jun 2013

And we're all out of luck with both of those.

 

panzerfaust

(2,818 posts)
23. Interestingly, there are FEWER American gun owners than two decades ago ...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jun 2013

... but there are MORE guns in America.

And many MORE pollies who flee before the forces of the National Assault Rifle Association.

I quit the NRA when it became the latter (NARA), though still do have at least half-a-dozen firearms have never shot anyone - even though I live in Texas.

Guns don't kill people, deranged idiots who should not be allowed to own a gun kill people. All guns should be registered, no civilian rifle or automatic pistol should have more than a 3 (or 5 - pick a number) round mag, no firearm should be sold to anyone who cannot pass both a mental health and a criminal background check, no firearm should be sold to anyone who has not passed a basic firearms safety course.


This is not 1813.




BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
8. and the NRA opposes mandatory gun safes
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jun 2013

and instead advocates for parents to store guns in their children's bedrooms. Looks like a policy of infanticide to me.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. They suggested putting a gun safe in the kids room
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jun 2013

on the assumption that the parents would rush to their kids room anyway in the case of an intruder.

While I think it is a dumb idea, I don't understand why you consider it dangerous. I though gun safes were kid proof?

calimary

(81,189 posts)
14. Only if the parent is never distracted and ALWAYS closes - AND LOCKS the safe
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jun 2013

before leaving the room. Sadly, that doesn't always happen. Especially in a kid's room. I can personally attest: it's AWFULLY easy to get distracted upon entering.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
17. I said it was a stupid idea
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:53 PM - Edit history (1)

what I find interesting is that you don't thinks gun safes are child proof. I thought gun safes were absolutely needed to save lives. What difference does it make where they are?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
26. And yet no one seems to care, do they?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:15 AM - Edit history (1)

when Skinner smacks down a couple of Bansalot denizens in ATA for whining about those awful gunners, it would appear that you guys are leading a pretty short parade.

mokawanis

(4,438 posts)
10. It's a damn shame kids pay the price
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jun 2013

for their parents carelessness and stupidity. I don't get why prosecutors sometimes decide not to charge the shooters with criminal negligence or involuntary manslaughter.



SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
20. Who knew it was National A.S.K. Day Friday?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jun 2013

"ASK (Asking Saves Kids)

“Is there a gun where your child plays?” Asking this simple question is an important step every parent can take to help their kids stay safe.

About 1/3 of homes with kids have guns, many left unlocked or loaded. Just talking to your child about the dangers of firearms is not enough. Children are naturally curious. If a gun is accessible in someone’s home, there is a good chance a child will find it and play with it. Countless tragedies have occurred when kids found guns that parents thought were well hidden or safely stored.

ASK was created in collaboration with the American Academy of Pediatrics.

Click here to read tips to make asking easier."

http://www.cpyv.org/programs/ask/parents/what-is-the-ask-campaign/

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
41. you're welcome. Seems like a no brainer. A police officer hired to monitor a family visit . . .
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jun 2013

. . . in the park for an outing, apparently owing to violence in the home, has to has to be there to monitor them playing with their children. We (Moms Demand Action) were there Saturday with our ASK literature and the policeman wanted to know about why we were there. He thought that ASK sounded like good sense. We're using the words "gun sense" instead of "gun control". I wonder if it might be helpful to get the police to coordinate with MDA. It takes a lot of money to get visibility in the community. Just promoting on the Internet doesn't actually reach those who need to be reached.

Btw, only one other person approached our table. One can't go up and solicit in a public park. They had a face painter and balloons, but practically no parents. It's tough going. They need idea people I'm thinking.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
24. This is so horrible,
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:36 PM
Jun 2013

I almost couldn't laugh at it.

If the baby shot for the third time didn't force painful laughter, the cop who left his Glock 26 on the toilet paper dispenser in a theater certainly did.

From his cold, dead hands?

d_r

(6,907 posts)
27. I followed some links on that page
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jun 2013

the first story is about a 24-year-old guy in Michigan. He posted youtube videos of himself talking to the police while he was "exercising his open carry rights." Later on, he ends up shooting his girlfriend and suiciding himself. The thing is, I think the police officer who is talking to him on his youtube video is the girl's dad.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
33. here you go
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jun 2013

Here is the link to the news story about the murder suicide.
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2013/06/cassie_pell_23_and_rob_pratt_2.html

His girlfriend that he murders is Cassie Pell, and it says her father is a Plainwell MI public safety officer.

Here is his video on this link:
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2013/06/rob_pratts_youtube_videos_capt.html#/0

The story says "The officer in the video, James Pell, is the father of Cassaundra Pell, 23." and no the video he does call him Mr. Pell.

I can't imagine how that man must feel.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
29. Yes, I watched part of that video.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jun 2013

The guy is walking his dog down the street, carrying a shotgun, talking on the phone, making a video, and smoking a cigarette. Yes, a real multi-tasker, as you can tell by the shakiness of his video. I get the same anticipation watching it that I get from seeing Wile E. Coyote open a ACME delivery. Except with motion sickness.

Sad, but if he didn't commit a homicide, he was a serious accident waiting to happen. I hate to say his girl friend should have dropped him first time he walked down the street showing off his juggling skills with a loaded gun.

He's certainly done a lot for gun control now. I know there are going to be other patriots like him as this "flaunt your gun rights" movement goes on.

Warpy

(111,227 posts)
31. The biggest predictor of dying by gun violence
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jun 2013

is having one of the damned things in your home.

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