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[dkf]

1. Wow

[Poll_Blind]

5. By his voice, I think the question was asked by Bob Schieffer and it was asked in all seriousness.

FWIW. And the question was asked with that being the reason Snowden didn't board the jet to Cuba (?) earlier.

Jay Carney dodged the question then, on further pestering, started to say something like "We're not going to rule out any options" but got about halfway through the sentence, changed his mind about saying that out loud, and then went on to say he wasn't going to speculate.

PB

[magellan]

2. I've no doubt they would

We've been watching that flight on a flightracking website. It's planned route takes it directly over US airspace. My first thought was that if there was any suspicion Snowden's on that flight, the US would force it down.

[avaistheone1]

13. Well that would certainly stir the pot. The only winner in that scenario

is more build-up of the military industrial complex and the intelligence (and I use that word loosely) industrial complex.

They do that and I think I will leave the Democratic party. That tells me the Democratic leadership is so crazed in this country to show they have bigger cojones than the Repubicans they will risk war, and more waste on the Pentagon and intelligence. The Democrats are blind with power and just plain stupid and pig-headed.

[premium]

22. They could try to force it down,

but, unless the pilot agrees to land, what other options does the US have? Shoot it down and become an even more pariah of the world?
My guess is that if we tried that, the pilot would basically say, "fuck off" and continue on their course and dare the US to take any hostile action.

[cali]

3. Fuck them.

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6. Your post questioning how far the US might go to "reclaim" him came to mind while I was...

....watching the press briefing. Interesting times.

PB

[flamingdem]

4. Bogus: That's not something they'll do and it's lame for the reporter to have asked

The real reason he's not leaving is that Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Ecuador have worries about facilitating Snowden's escape.

[Poll_Blind]

7. The no-brainer answer would be easiest. "No, Bob, of course not. That's silly."

Is this administration above causing an international incident which would bring further embarassment onto our country's behavior?

I'd like to think so.

PB

[flamingdem]

8. Carney can't say something like that

And it would be dumb to let on about anything during negotiations

[geek tragedy]

10. Carney doesn't have the authority to make that declaration.

he only gets to say what he's been cleared to say. If he's surprised by a question, it's painfully obvious.

He's also not very good at his job.

[avaistheone1]

15. I'd like to think so.

But this administration seems to have a lot invested in proving they are more bad asses than the republicans.

[NoPasaran]

9. Was that the reporter from InfoWars?

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11. No, sounded like Bob Schieffer from CBS. The "reporter" from InfoWars does not have WH press...

...credentials. Few journalists can get WH press credentials and fewer get called on. Outside of the occasional foreign journalist (due to a special event), Lester Kinsolving is the most crazy person they let through the door and ask questions on any kind of regular basis.

PB

[Octafish]

14. Helen Thomas got dumped long ago.

Don't know of many other real journalists on the White House beat.

[Poll_Blind]

18. Well, I'm using a lose definition for "real" mostly to include mainstream journalists from large...

....media organizations.

PB

[Octafish]

12. Ollie North did that to Achile Largo terrorists.

http://books.google.com/books?id=QRXURzwdXS4C&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=Ollie+north+terrorist+airplane+italy&source=bl&ots=3HIyrCUiug&sig=x5uJUVuHie2oEgyj-lrxcuWw1Bw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=annIUaHlBvCWyAGlq4HYBg&ved=0CD8Q6AEwCA

[Fire Walk With Me]

16. I'm surprised they didn't try to, or to shoot it down outright. Fuck this government. n/t

[kentuck]

17. I don't think Obama would be that reckless?

Do you?

[Catherina]

20. That frantic yes. Snowden just said more coming to country journalists

"If I have time to go through this information, I would like to make it available to journalists in each country to make their own assessment, independent of my bias, as to whether or not the knowledge of U.S. network operations against their people should be published."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/24/edward-snowden-nsa-leaker-russia-cuba-flight-asylum-ecuador/2451403/

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21. If Snowden was on a Russian jet? No. If Snowden was on an Ecuadorian jet? Possibly.

PB

[Catherina]

19. Someone please post the youtube if they see it. I missed it n/t

[datasuspect]

23. problem is

when you set up everything to kill bin laden or terrorists, everything or everyone becomes a terrorist.

it's like going about the world with just a hammer to solve problems - everything starts looking like a nail.

[Poll_Blind]

24. Event Concluded, check WH for transcripts. ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS:

WH Briefing LIVE: Jay Carney refuses to discount reports that US was planning to divert Russian jet
...in order to "acquire" Snowden. Oh, and Jay is also very pissed that Hong Kong let Snowden leave.

Tune in LIVE HERE:
White House Live Video

PB