Just ended a conference call with some clients, some nat'l DNC strategist types

[galileoreloaded]

and the topic was Snowden and namely not having the poopy splash on THEIR clients. (I consult human behavior, group dynamics, etc)

Here was the consensus from the call:

Problem:

The challenge is that this 30 year old kid with no mandate and no power and Best Buy technology is being seen as having more temerity and "guts" to do what he thought was right (regardless of outcome) than the President who has received 2 mandates, and has comparatively interminable power but is perceived as being unwilling to use it.

Solution:

Distance yourself from Obama as quick as possible and protect your district for 2014.

Possible Unintended Consequence:

The President becomes completely unable to progress any agenda due to critters crittering back to the shadows.


Thought that was interesting and worth a share.

(no i'm not telling who, all my clients exist behind non-disclosure)

[graham4anything]

1. Link please.

[cali]

3. what do you mean "link please"? the op is relating a personal story

what do you think he should link to?

[lpbk2713]

7. Wants to know if this involves Hillary.

[monmouth3]

50. Bwahahaha..Good one...

[justiceischeap]

4. Did you not get this was a personal experience and there wouldn't be a link? nt

[DefenseLawyer]

6. He meant to say "Linc please"

Obviously, only the Mod Squad can save us now.

[galileoreloaded]

9. here you go!

[okaawhatever]

34. LOL. You know that's only as strong as it's weakest sausage. nt

[City Lights]

48. Haha!

Excellent response!

[galileoreloaded]

51. thankyouverymuch (elvis voice) nt

[The Straight Story]

13. Call the NSA, bet they have a link for it

[bigwillq]

44. DUzy!

[SammyWinstonJack]

80. heh.

[sabrina 1]

93. Lol!

[Renew Deal]

127. Did you bother to read the post?

[aquart]

2. Well, of course.

He's not running again. The goal is taking Congress back. And our statehouses. And then not being so stupid we lose them.

[FarCenter]

5. Obama was a lame duck domestically; now he's a lame duck internationally.

His only options to salvage his presidency are to go to war in Syria or bomb Iran.

He's still Commander in Chief and can use the military, which is pretty much all that he has left.

[pscot]

8. Oh sure. That'll really work

Hearts and minds.

[geek tragedy]

10. LMAO. Our resident demigod provides more wisdom.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2848298

im what women call "attractive", outspoken, and have no fear of judgement..

and i get looked at like a piece of meat...often. regardless if the female is single, married, young, old, etc.

"big strong man" is code for attractive i fear, and not for the "nice guys" that make up the other 95% of men that they dont WANT staring at them.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2512380

In a 19 year career, it has taken a lot of unlearning to cease deferring to female colleagues based on a perceived weakness to be accounted for.
As a man, and to survive in a 2013 workplace I have had to connect to the feminine worldview. In fact, I started executive coaching on the issue because frankly I am that good at reading it.

What I discovered is that as long as other men continue this abhorrent tradition, women come to expect it as the norm and it makes them targets for men like me. I unashamedly, and using very feminine tactics have single handedly crushed my female business competitors by utilizing their own social structures against them quite effectively. I especially love the crocodile tears that get resorted to as if I even care. This isn't 1950 and I don't care. I quickly remind these women of their professional positions that dictate flat and emotionless interactions.

For the wary exec, this transition provides some very useful chaos in which to hide and self promote, but until this practice ceases to exist and we truly interact as equals, it ultimately hurts women by faulty conditioning

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2947302

why their turnover in large call centers is so high because they use shaming tactics to drive production with predominately female workforces, or need negotiation support in high level mergers. or companies who are trying to understand recruitment strategies in say, the rustbelt when they are opening new divisions but coming from either coast. playing to an individual agenda if you will, and culture has a lot to do with it. i can usually unpack dialect down to the county in the US.

i'm the asshole who reads the room while seeming to ignore the conversation and playing on his phone but in real life texts the guy doing the talking and telling him what is and isnt working. i have many many political clients too, 95% Dem. I'm very good at what I do and I'm quite intellectually, emotionally, and socially intelligent. ill take a reverse DUZY.....i love being validated!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2946941

i consult on human behavior when i'm bored or want a new toy. especially gender issues in the workplace for corporate clients. im considered top 3 nationally. human behavior is 95% predictable and falls neatly around lines of gender.

what i find interesting in your comments and posts though, is almost a pathological need to be accepted and seen as some uber ally to people promoting gender primacy, against your own interests (theoretically). when i see that in public, i dig very deep for the hidden agenda, and generally speaking with men its about intimacy. its where white knights and the "nice Guy" is born from, a need for intimacy from the opposite sex that cant be fulfilled by the needy persons real personality.....so they adopt one.

fascinating.

[kentuck]

11. Those are some very arrogant comments.

In my opinion.

[geek tragedy]

12. We are truly priviliged to have such a high-rolling superstar of the political

and consulting world here to share his wisdom with us.

And, he's totally hawt as a bonus!

[galileoreloaded]

15. you should block me, but you can't can you? i always wonder what fears

drive my haters, and its usually the fear of judgement. the ego is both fragile and incredibly powerful at the same time. this coupled with the need to place oneself square in the middle of the herd to ameliorate your fear of being discovered as merely adequate and not the special little snowflake you thought you were....

but hey, stay tuned! its my life you seem to be living instead of your own

[geek tragedy]

16. Derp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

[galileoreloaded]

19. don't shoot the messenger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality

[BainsBane]

29. well played

[BainsBane]

24. Oh, oh

[geek tragedy]

26. *snort* nt

[sabrina 1]

95. Yes, we are. I know some 'high-rolling superstars of the political and Democratic fund raising world

(through my job) and it's interesting what they have to say. See, they too are victims of these surveillance programs. So let me put it this way, top Democratic funders now have have very good reasons to be nervous about their own 'data'. Just think what this means for the Democratic Party, if you care about such things. Not willing to say more, it's enough to know how seriously this effects the entire country.

Btw, got anything, other than the personal attack mode you are resorting to? You used to do better than this, but I understand, defending the indefensible is a tough job. I tried it once, it was exhausting, I was pretty good at it too, so dedicated to my party at the time. But in the end, I realized, you simply can't defend what there is no defense for. It just made me look desperate, and didn't help my party. Now I know that to help my party, I have to stand up to those who are tearing it down. And tell the truth, no matter how it hurts to do so.

[geek tragedy]

96. You're free to believe this tale if you so choose. nt

[galileoreloaded]

125. You are outgunned, son. Shhhhh. Nt

[BainsBane]

14. And then calling feminists mentally ill

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11149198 There are more choice bits in that post.

Pretending he's qualified to offer a diagnosis without meeting a person, which would cost any practitioner his or her license: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3077737

Calling someone he disagrees with mentally ill to be sure to stigmatize mental illness and prevent those who need help from seeking it. Then pretending he's a psychological professional.

[galileoreloaded]

17. you should block me, but you can't can you? i always wonder what fears

drive my haters, and its usually the fear of judgement. the ego is both fragile and incredibly powerful at the same time. this coupled with the need to place oneself square in the middle of the herd to ameliorate your fear of being discovered as merely adequate and not the special little snowflake you thought you were....

but hey, stay tuned! its my life you seem to be living instead of your own

[kentuck]

21. Haters?

I have never heard of you?

[MichiganVote]

32. Thank you. I feel so much better. Thought I was supposed to know this person.

[geek tragedy]

33. You probably have heard of this person, according to him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022817719#post19

guaranteed i'm the most qualified progressive you've ever met

you would be surprised who i am IRL.

[sufrommich]

35. I'm amazed at how many people will take the word

of self styled important,successful and good looking posters on the internets.P.T. Barnum was right.

[MichiganVote]

38. Er..how good looking? I mean like Brad Pitt good looking or something else?

[malaise]

63. +1,000

[geek tragedy]

99. Yep. Gullibility is not uncommon. nt

[galileoreloaded]

36. another stalker! cute! :)

[MichiganVote]

37. Oh its THAT guy. Ok. Its the besttest progressive guy thing.

But didn't we have a different guy last week? So confused. Oh well, if I'd known we were now worshiping DU "progressive" Gods I would pay better attention.

So sorry.

[BainsBane]

39. Funny how rare it is to see these best progressive guys

take a progressive opinion on an issue. It seems to me if you have to constantly tell people you're progressive, you just might not be.

[MichiganVote]

43. In all seriousness, when posters begin to sound like the infomercials, they lose me.

[geek tragedy]

41. And he's damn sexy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11149017#post1

ive had many, many women (that ive later found out were married)

hide their status and try and convince me that a condom wasn't required. presumably, they wanted higher quality DNA than the dutiful man at home could provide. it should be a lesson to men that your pleasant personality, ability to provide, and how super sweet you are means nothing to a woman under certain circumstances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1114&pid=9109

lets get real.

fat isn't attractive. its an indicator of a lack of discipline.

like an education from the University of Phoenix, its mere existence in your life shows bad judgement. we gotta start being accountable to ourselves and leave this acceptance trope behind.

get healthy, own your life.

[BainsBane]

45. You left out the highlight from that first one

I maintain that 95% of women under 35 will cheat with the right guy.

its completely disgusting behavior.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11149017#post1

[geek tragedy]

47. that entire post is epic fail nt

[MichiganVote]

52. Ok so this person had sex with 95% of females undere 35?? Wow. Is there an app for that?

[MichiganVote]

46. Oh dear. I do hope a certain someone has a consultant for his/her own fathead thinking.

Good comedy tho'.

[galileoreloaded]

49. it hard! (no pun intended)

[name not needed]

54. Nobody in that thread is calling feminists mentally ill.

It might help your cause to read once and a while instead of grabbing the first thread you found and crying about how mean he is.

[BainsBane]

55. BPD is borderline personality disorder

a mental illness. He asserts I have it. His meaning is clear. In the other thread he specifically refers to the blog as indicating mental illness. It's not enough to disagree with a person, he has to insult everyone with mental illness in the process.

[name not needed]

58. And your intent is clear.

Once again somebody disagrees with you and you just can't deal with it. I'm sure you've already posted in HoF about how you're being oppressed by those awful men you've gone out of your way to piss off.

[BainsBane]

61. When proven wrong, go for the personal attack

Calling someone mentally ill is not a disagreement. It's a personal attack that invokes bigotry toward those with neuro-chemical illnesses.

How dare I post anything about sexism in HOF. I should use it to condemn the opposite sex as "disgusting" and "mentally ill" instead, like the upstanding citizens you so admire.

Poor things. However do you bear the oppression of being forced to inhabit the planet with women who dare speak in public.

[name not needed]

64. Is that you after Skinner closed Meta?

Poor you, having to use GD to throw your temper tantrums.

[BainsBane]

65. The only tantrum here is yours

How predicable you make it through a whole thread of people ridiculing the OP before deciding to jump on my post.

[opiate69]

68. Aw.. did your alert-stalking fail?

Trash group may just be your friend.

[BainsBane]

69. No need to stalk when he posts in my thread

and makes insults directly to me.

[opiate69]

71. Oh.. right.. because that's your name up on the top of this thread..

And at the top of the MG thread you linked to (and, I would wager a months salary, alerted on.)

[BainsBane]

72. Read the second one?

Please do. Yes, you bet I alerted on both of them. Both came back 3-3. Someone tries to diagnosis me with psychiatric disorders online, I take it personally.

[opiate69]

73. So are you saying the blog he linked to in the MG is yours?

Because if not, then it has nothing to do with you, and hence your alert would be an example of busy-body alert-stalking. A pasttime which you and others have repeatedly and vehemently accused our groups members of behind the walls of your little echo chamber. Mote, plank, eye.

[BainsBane]

74. the second link

read it.

[opiate69]

78. I did, and I have no issue with you alerting on it, as it was directly attacking you.

Now, have you perused around the other blog (the one linked to in your first link?) because a casual reading of some of this mans posts reveal him to be a profoundly maladjusted individual.

[BainsBane]

79. I can't be bothered to read it carefully

I skimmed it. You may be right. My issue is with the OP of this thread. I consider his repeated invocation of mental illness a truly insidious thing to do. Many people do suffer from mental illness, and using it as an insult only adds to the stigma that keeps people who need help from seeking it. No mental health professional would ever diagnose someone online. If they did they would lose their license. There are many DUers with neuro-chemical disorders. Using "mental illness" or BPD as an insult is hurtful to all of them. If he wants to insult me, he should insult ME, not a whole group of the most vulnerable population. The same goes for random bloggers. It's his pretense of being trained in psychology that makes it especially damaging. Obviously he has no clinical training, but he still pretends to know everything and has even gone so far as to say he is "never wrong." I stand by my alert. He crossed the line.

[galileoreloaded]

87. my ONLY issue here is the world class conclusion jumping that gets you and I

into disagreements.

you consistently misrepresent my words, and its not ok. you have an agenda, and I have one too. i don't want my little boys growing up all fucked up because they are being vilified in code for being born with a penis. being fed negative stereotypes without a single person ever asking what is in that little boys heart. i grew up that way, in this sick culture, and its no better than a rape joke. took me years to break out of that bullshit.

your agenda is clearly herd protection, and as i have stated here it is a perfectly reasonable biological strategy. i take issue with how you prosecute your agenda, not the agenda itself. i take issue because your constant re-framing makes the argument incomprehensible, and relies on your assertions, not any rational discourse.

Everybody is important. We are all in this together.

that help?

[BainsBane]

92. Are you denying you told me you thought I had

Borderline Personality Disorder, cluster 2 to be precise, or that you called that blogger "mentally ill"?

Is a herd mentality what you use to describe caring about others in society and the absence of narcissism?

[galileoreloaded]

97. i'll quote myself.

"clearly, because i deal in logic, and that statement was borderline"

"I was referring to Cluster 2 BPD. That statement, and some others, but that one

specifically seem to point in that direction.

Namely the constant reframes and contextual hijacks (in reference to the statement). I teach folks that when you meet someone who constantly shames and erects barriers in any interaction, run away.(reference to the statement) They are ill and toxic to the rational mind.(again, reference to the statement but i can see how that might have gotten misconstrued)

In no way did I tell you that I thought you had BPD, but did suggest your statement had the traits, (specifically constant reframes and barrier erection after barrier erection) that are hallmarks of that behavior. for reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder

Additionally I have never stated I was any type of counselor. I HAVE stated that I do life coaching, limited relationship coaching, and consulting. I personally find traditional therapists are more invested on figuring themselves out than their clients, and I prefer to deal in tangible results.

This is after all the internet but as my great ancestor Wyatt Earp once said "fast is fine, but accuracy is everything".

[BainsBane]

105. You need to have a look at that thread

Since you are the one who derailed the subject, not I. I was talking about violence against women when you and the men's posse insisted that we women have no right to speak about such matters. Your dialog with yourself is so persistent, you can't even keep track of the subject of a thread.

If you'll excuse me, I feel a need for a shower.
Let's not do this again anytime soon.

[BainsBane]

75. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3077737

I'm a Scorpio. I hold a grudge. Besides, it was only yesterday he posted that.

[BainsBane]

70. How is it you both make a beeline to my post?

This whole thread if full of people jumping on the OP. Not sure how I warrant so much attention. I'm not that cute, really. I'm sure I can't begin to compare with his royal hawtness.

[KittyWampus]

23. If this person is a consultant on behavior >>> just DAMN! Maybe in corporate culture where being

somewhat sociopathic is a plus.

[geek tragedy]

25. What percentage of Internet boasting turns out to be true? nt

[KittyWampus]

27. probably the same percent of internet deaths (very few).

[Romulus Quirinus]

30. I didn't know you are divine.

Is it weird to have a conversation with someone I don't believe in?

[geek tragedy]

31. The OP is the god amongst men here. Ask him, he'll tell you. nt

[patrice]

82. Ego inflation is fairly typical of persons with messiah complex. I bet we can think of more examples

[LiberalAndProud]

129. Humble fellow, isn't he?

[flamingdem]

18. f 'em

but thanks for sharing how they might conceivably speak geesh

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Not surprised, one bit

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023073805

[Skidmore]

22. Ah, yes, courageous aren't they?

Why do they need engraved invitations to stand up and do their jobs?

[LiberalFighter]

28. You don't win elections by showing weakness as it appears these clients support.

You win elections by showing strength. If Democrats are cowering away from Obama they will make themselves and the President weaker. And Republicans will stomp all over them.

[okaawhatever]

42. Your post seems suspect at best. Bullshit at worst. I'll go with the latter. nt

[great white snark]

60. Yup. Talk about saying exactly what his or her intended audience wants to hear.

Starting with the DNC boogeyman in the title.

[galileoreloaded]

53. lest anyone think I care what you think.....

[BainsBane]

56. passive voice

figures.

[galileoreloaded]

83. *shrug. i'll take a life of percieved arrogance bred by success than

irrational and paralyzing fear any day. good news is that a functional disorder of the mind can be solved by the mind. science!

[BainsBane]

91. Yeah, that was about grammar

Do try to keep up.

[snooper2]

121. Why post then? You could doing something useful

Like cleaning the nasty behind your fridge or getting debris out of the gutters

[snooper2]

123. Where did you go?

The real work happens after 10:00PM CST!

[galileoreloaded]

124. Moving when it's 113 degrees. Ima toss the gf out of bed tonight....

Soon as I put it together

[FSogol]

57. Cool story Bro.

[Android3.14]

59. There's always the correct path forward

They could urge Obama to curb the extravagances, provide public oversight of all spying and especially on spying on our fellow citizens, and proclaim it a victory of Democracy over the Republican tilt towards a police state.
It's like trying to point out a bird to the damn cat, and all it does is look at your hand.

[Robb]

62. This is a wholly believable story. I believe every word.

I mean, I'd pay big bucks for your opinion. In a heartbeat.

Given your postings here, I can totally understand why the DNC would turn to you.

Don't think I'm posting and running if I don't reply immediately, but I just ran over a unicorn with my Ferrari, and need to use my powers to alter time and space to avoid jail time and pissed-off Smurfs. If you need me, leave a message with my wife, Morgan Fairchild.

[MichiganVote]

66. LOL! Now that was funny.

[BainsBane]

94. Robb seldom disappoints

[treestar]

77. lol

[galileoreloaded]

84. lol. a typical reaction i see often.

its tough to feel utterly powerless.

for the record, i simply sit in a room and decode and predict behavior based on variable input. pretty cut and dry, but it is the root of power, understanding behavior. that makes people uneasy.

fear is the most powerful of motivators, and humor is a good coping mechanism. good on ya!

[Robb]

86. For a man who noted how little he cared what the rest of DU thought

...you've sure spent a lot of time tending to our opinions of you in this thread.

On the plus side, rest assured mine hasn't budged an iota; I thought the same of you yesterday as I do today, if it's possible maybe even more so.

[galileoreloaded]

89. im feeling generous. nt

[Robb]

90. Lonely would've been my first guess.

[ismnotwasm]

98. What's your favorite scary movie?

[galileoreloaded]

104. i dont watch them.

i don't like gore or suspense or horror. my momma always said garbage in, garbage out.

why?

[OilemFirchen]

106. "for the record, i simply sit in a room and decode and predict behavior based on variable input"

Which reads, of course:

"I sell timeshares and I even suck at that."

[Starry Messenger]

118. +1

I was guessing Herbalife, but yours is better.

[kentuck]

67. so long as his approval ratings are below 50%,,,,

They will be hesitant to jump on his coattails...

[treestar]

76. Snowden only did one thing

Dealt with one issue. He had the "power" to disobey the law and did so.

[Logical]

103. And now Obama is willing to discuss spying with the ACLU! Wonder why?

[patrice]

81. Look at this thread. As I have been saying ever since Robert Gibbs's observation re professional

leftists, issues do not matter to the partisans who want us to believe they are "the Left".

Only power matters to what calls itself "the Left". Meet the "new" boss, SAME fascistic tendencies as the old boss.

[KoKo]

100. I never knew you thought like that........

You seem to always be against the DU "Leftists?"

I must have mis-read your post...in haste. Otherwise I'd agree with what you stated.

[patrice]

109. I am suspicious of what appears to be divide and conquer for base-building factions at all costs.

Body count at higher priority than success on the issues looks very bourgeoisie to me. It appears to be about people's ambitions and that's generally middle-class ambitions, since most of the poor are pretty darned a-political because they're too busy dealing with being poor. I was raised in the Catholic social justice tradition and was a young adult during the '60s and have chaired a few social justice church committees (though I'm no longer a practicing Catholic) and my basic understandings are socialistic.

Those are some of the reasons why I often refer to "what calls itself 'the Left'". The internet is such a tricky place and most people are anonymous here, so it's easy to cause trouble for this or that faction, while pretending to be one of them, and insulting others is extremely poor issue advocacy, so I'm skeptical about what goes on here. If (rhetorical) you care about your issues, you don't put ridicule and anger ahead of them and you're more careful about making a real effort to get more and more truth & don't assume that you know it all, or even enough, already and that all that is needed is for others to conform to your agenda. Authentic Liberals, I think, would tend to be more inclusive for the simple sake of humanity and for the sake of step-wise progress toward economic and social justice. That's not betrayal; it's the opposite of betrayal; it's deeper more self-less commitment. In comparison to Liberal, maybe the difference is that a Left would have to be more political, hence more about building a base, numbers of persons attracted to what amounts to de facto demagoguery, whether they can deliver issue specificities is not that relevant, so I probably have some basic tactical differences with some folks here.

On DU 2.0 I went through a phase where I was sorting my thoughts about money out, how arbitrary and unjust it is and yet everyone is measured by it, some more so than others, and the poor the most judged of all and with the least power because they have the least money. I think we might discover some answers for them and for others in workers' co-operatives.

[liberal_at_heart]

85. right now most democrats suck, so just distancing themselves from Obama isn't going to help.

[The Link]

88. Snowden does have more guts than Obama.

Obama leads from the back.

[KoKo]

101. So...what are folks to run on and who to support in 2014 if folks are...

supposed to distance themselves from Obama?

Not much wiggle room there to inspire voters. What were they suggesting would be the "Talking Points?"

[savalez]

102. Bullshit. n/t

[Safetykitten]

107. Probably the most important paragraph ever written on DU in ages...

"this 30 year old kid with no mandate and no power and Best Buy technology is being seen as having more temerity and "guts" to do what he thought was right (regardless of outcome) than the President who has received 2 mandates, and has comparatively interminable power but is perceived as being unwilling to use it."

There it is kids. Right there.

[nobodyspecial]

108. Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose

[Harmony Blue]

110. Whether this is true or not

this is definitely an interesting point that our country is at currently.

[JimDandy]

111. This is the ONLY post galileoreloaded has Recced in the last 90 days!

He recced his own post!

[galileoreloaded]

112. i did! its really good! one of my best, maybe ever. hope you love it too! nt

[JimDandy]

117. i didn't! its really bad! thats why i looked you up! n/t

[BainsBane]

113. He's a legend in his own mind.

[galileoreloaded]

114. and an obsession in yours!

[BainsBane]

116. In your dreams

[Cali_Democrat]

115. *cough* BULLSHIT *cough*

[dkf]

119. Too much for the peanut gallery to handle...

Please keep posting. Very interesting stuff.

[datasuspect]

120. haters gonna hate

why do they hate Uhhhmericans so much?

[galileoreloaded]

122. Haters hate because it attacks their ego and raises defenses....

The core of emotional pain is the inability to accept reality and the ego will do ANYTHING to avoid the withdrawal of the chemistry feedback loop.

As long as folks can pretend, they will.

[Cleita]

126. I think you just leaked some information, not classified, but insider nontheless

on how the DNC party operates. Shame on you.