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newmember

(805 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:21 PM Jun 2013

Did you know George Zimmerman was a registered Democrat

So he didn't even consider him self white.

This should lay to rest any claims of racism.






Zimmerman's state voter registration document shows that the 28-year-old registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in 2002. Zimmerman apparently went on to identify himself as a Hispanic American, according to the document, which was released Tuesday by the Washington Free Beacon

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Did you know George Zimmerman was a registered Democrat (Original Post) newmember Jun 2013 OP
I think it'll be shown that he is a murderer too madokie Jun 2013 #1
+1,000 malaise Jun 2013 #28
maybe but that's for a jury to decide not the MSM newmember Jun 2013 #45
You're shittin me madokie Jun 2013 #98
THANK YOU SKINNER uppityperson Jun 2013 #143
Some groups of Hispanics are very racist against African-Americans. I know a lot of Cubans in FL kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #56
Are you just trying to see how many non-sequiturs you can get into one post? Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #2
So at 18 he was a self identified dem Paulie Jun 2013 #3
It's important to note that all the claims of racism by some of media are false newmember Jun 2013 #11
He and his family are a bunch of bigots. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #13
All the claims made by some. Paulie Jun 2013 #16
Why would racism be automatically false? Godhumor Jun 2013 #20
Should the term be used against someone with absolutely no proof of it..because that's what happened newmember Jun 2013 #82
oh, silly Godhumor, don't you know that onyl people who are 100% white can be racist?? arcane1 Jun 2013 #105
2 points. What makes you think Hispanics can not be racist and targetting Trayvon due to his age and uppityperson Jun 2013 #22
you really are a new member CatWoman Jun 2013 #36
This time around. Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #124
This is satire right? hrmjustin Jun 2013 #4
So what? baldguy Jun 2013 #5
Plenty of Hispanic people consider themselves white, don't they? cyberswede Jun 2013 #6
Yes, Hispanic people are considered white on the surveys I have seen siligut Jun 2013 #23
You forgot your sarcasm tag, right? Right? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #7
I think it's important to note newmember Jun 2013 #24
If someone is racist, if it is true, it is good to point it out. Not sure why you say "not good". uppityperson Jun 2013 #25
It is very clear that Zimmerman is a bigot. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #26
No it is not newmember Jun 2013 #53
Yes it is. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #57
Zimmy targeted Trayvon because of how he looked, he profiled the teen he shot because of how he look uppityperson Jun 2013 #104
But you are implying that Zimmerman couldn't be racist because he was Hispanic/a Democrat Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #42
Actually, if a person is a racist, it is good to call them on it. Lone_Star_Dem Jun 2013 #54
I am surprised you are still here curlyred Jun 2013 #55
why? newmember Jun 2013 #66
some think the Martin case is a shibboleth hfojvt Jun 2013 #90
If you Soundman Jun 2013 #137
You didn't address Tommy's issues... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #121
WTF does that have to do with anything? He murdered a KID sad-cafe Jun 2013 #8
The Free Beacon...... Grassy Knoll Jun 2013 #9
Since you underlined it, Morning Dew Jun 2013 #10
Hispanics, Asians, blacks, etc can't be racist? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #12
There are only TWO races: white, and non-white! arcane1 Jun 2013 #107
We have vigilante gun nut 'Democrats' here too. onehandle Jun 2013 #14
This changes everything! Acquit! Acquit! DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #15
It's about par for the course from what I've seen. bluedigger Jun 2013 #39
Has There Been A Finest Moment? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #112
So what? Warpy Jun 2013 #17
isn't there a bridge... one_voice Jun 2013 #18
Bingo! Paulie Jun 2013 #21
Damn right. nt MADem Jun 2013 #135
Does it matter if he was registered to sarisataka Jun 2013 #19
This might be my favorite reply in the history of DU. n/t antigone382 Jun 2013 #147
FWIW, copy/pasting the OP for posterity. uppityperson Jun 2013 #27
Good thinking! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #30
are you keeping a terrorist watch list? hfojvt Jun 2013 #94
Being a registered democrat JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #29
But but but he didn't consider himself white so he couldn't be a racist, see? uppityperson Jun 2013 #31
Hispanic is not a race Major Nikon Jun 2013 #32
oh deer H2O Man Jun 2013 #33
this is saracasm right? chillfactor Jun 2013 #34
There are plenty of racist hispanics HipChick Jun 2013 #35
A jury voted 3-3 to keep this crap up. nt. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #37
That's because many people agree with me newmember Jun 2013 #44
You stated that anyone who is a registered democrat is not white. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #47
Every time I come across this poster curlyred Jun 2013 #60
He lasted about 10 years before he started posting under this handle/sock-puppet. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #61
? uppityperson Jun 2013 #96
I am curious as well. salin Jun 2013 #117
That explains a lot. curlyred Jun 2013 #144
He still murdered the kid. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #62
Can you tell us how you know for sure that it is not racism? I'm curious. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #126
Question leftynyc Jun 2013 #139
Fred Phelps is a registered Democrat blogslut Jun 2013 #38
Too bad Trayvon never got a chance to register to vote. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #40
+1000 sad-cafe Jun 2013 #43
Hispanic persons can be of any race; most in the US are white Recursion Jun 2013 #41
Sure but members are falling over them selves to call Zimmerman racist with no evidence to prove it newmember Jun 2013 #65
No evidence other than the fact he targeted and killed a black teen for no reason Major Nikon Jun 2013 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #130
and your point is? samsingh Jun 2013 #46
It's being made , just read all the comments where THEY just know Zimmerman is a racist newmember Jun 2013 #70
Are you actually attempting to say that Hispanic Democrats can't be racists? yardwork Jun 2013 #48
No , what I'm saying is the first thing the media jumped on was white guy shoots 17 newmember Jun 2013 #51
Zimmerman is clearly a racist. That's why he stalked and murdered an unarmed black teenager. yardwork Jun 2013 #63
It's not clear at all that he is Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #68
Wait, wait. Now he's part African-American too? mac56 Jun 2013 #123
I do believe that you have known a lot of bigots yardwork Jun 2013 #138
The clue phone is ringing. Please pick it up. marmar Jun 2013 #49
You should have stuck to the Snowden kerfuffle. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #50
So, you think this case comes down to a "minority on minority" crime? leveymg Jun 2013 #52
Nice Flag Pin. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #58
Ugh, MIRT, just get it over with. This is a troll. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #59
MIRT needs a hidden post to ban. FWIW. Admin doesn't, but MIRT does. nt uppityperson Jun 2013 #97
You do know that there are Hispanic people who are racist against blacks right? Lone_Star_Dem Jun 2013 #64
He had a black business partner Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #67
You should delete that it doesn't fit with the narrative of the members calling him a racist newmember Jun 2013 #74
Well there is also the incident in which he protested the beating of the black homeless guy Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #78
Let's clear this up. A woman can be sexist. ecstatic Jun 2013 #100
I would hope that neither race nor political ideology would be a factor in any jury decision. egduj Jun 2013 #69
But look at this thread and all the comments ......Zimmerman must be a racist!!!! newmember Jun 2013 #71
Do you think he is a murderer? hrmjustin Jun 2013 #72
Not for me to decide newmember Jun 2013 #75
But you are certain he is not a racist? hrmjustin Jun 2013 #76
If there is evidence to show him to be one ...post it newmember Jun 2013 #83
All you need to do is look at the evidence and look at the statements from his brother and father. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #87
Why start threads on the topic if you don't have an opinion? MADem Jun 2013 #136
I don't think George would've followed Trayvon, if Trayvon wasn't black. egduj Jun 2013 #73
Your the one who started this sad, fallacious affair ... Trajan Jun 2013 #79
Facts suck ...don't they newmember Jun 2013 #85
What are your facts? hrmjustin Jun 2013 #88
Now you just sound like a troll leftynyc Jun 2013 #140
He's dead, Jim pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #145
I don't think I've enjoyed a single one of your posts. Change has come Jun 2013 #77
So what? BainsBane Jun 2013 #80
The twisty defenses of this murdering shitcock are always fascinating. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #84
Hispanics can be racist. You can, too. kwassa Jun 2013 #86
I don't care if he thought of himself as Mother Teresa ornotna Jun 2013 #89
If you weren't on a bunch of peoples' lists before, you SURE are now... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #91
He maybe, he maybe found he acted due to self defense newmember Jun 2013 #95
"due to self defense" while sitting safely in his car. arcane1 Jun 2013 #110
What, is he your cousin or something? mac56 Jun 2013 #128
WHY would being a Democrat mean he can't be a racist? You're not fooling anyone with that kind of Raine Jun 2013 #92
Time to put you and the crap you post on ignore Marrah_G Jun 2013 #93
Nice try ecstatic Jun 2013 #99
LOLOL Skittles Jun 2013 #101
So was George Wallace /nt still_one Jun 2013 #102
And..? arcane1 Jun 2013 #103
Sorry to tell you, but some Democrats can be racist too. nt Incitatus Jun 2013 #106
So was Ronald Reagan until he switched to Republican and Idiot. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #108
I'm a registered Democrat too tularetom Jun 2013 #109
No, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Captain Stern Jun 2013 #111
You can register as a democrat and vote republican. no_hypocrisy Jun 2013 #113
So was George Wallace n/t eridani Jun 2013 #114
Yes, because Hispanics are never racist towards Blacks. BWAHAHAHAHA! WinkyDink Jun 2013 #115
Okey dokey. HappyMe Jun 2013 #116
And there are even people maddezmom Jun 2013 #118
Nuh uh! HappyMe Jun 2013 #119
I hope you're being sarcastic. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #120
So what if he was/is a Democrat. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #122
That settles it, not guilty! DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2013 #125
Living in Florida I have seen first hand..... NCTraveler Jun 2013 #127
If you think that a registered Democrat can't be racist... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #129
Better yet, I'm trashing this outrageous thread! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #131
satire, right ? steve2470 Jun 2013 #132
So, we're sayin' there are no "white" Democrats? MADem Jun 2013 #133
I find not only your comments trollish but your name. grantcart Jun 2013 #134
You haven't learned much since you joined Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:23 PM. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #141
Bye Bye motherfucker! n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #142
So are Lyndon LaRouche and Lee Mercer Jr. (ALL THREE!!). KamaAina Jun 2013 #146
Not necessarily. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #148
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
56. Some groups of Hispanics are very racist against African-Americans. I know a lot of Cubans in FL
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jun 2013

and they are very racist against African-Americans.

Paulie

(8,464 posts)
3. So at 18 he was a self identified dem
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jun 2013

10 years later he became a self identified killer. Not sure how you connect the dots when almost a third of his life was after that registration.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
11. It's important to note that all the claims of racism by some of media are false
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:29 PM
Jun 2013

And some of the talking heads that loved jumping aboard this train of calling racism.

Paulie

(8,464 posts)
16. All the claims made by some.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jun 2013

Look. He followed a black kid who came from a 7/11 with a drink and a bag of skittles and killed him. Live in a fantasy land where race wasn't apart of it but in the end: I vote nuke

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
20. Why would racism be automatically false?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jun 2013

I can't follow that logic...I am white, but my son will be able to call himself Asian, does that mean he can't be a racist, if he does so?

Zimmerman profiled a young black teenager. Race matters a lot in this case.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
82. Should the term be used against someone with absolutely no proof of it..because that's what happened
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jun 2013

by the MSM and sadly by many members here.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
105. oh, silly Godhumor, don't you know that onyl people who are 100% white can be racist??
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:49 AM
Jun 2013



Though it's totally not needed:

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
22. 2 points. What makes you think Hispanics can not be racist and targetting Trayvon due to his age and
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jun 2013

race is racist.

Also not arresting Zimmy since Trayvon was "only" a young black thug was also racist.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
6. Plenty of Hispanic people consider themselves white, don't they?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:27 PM
Jun 2013

"Hispanic" is an ethnicity, not a race, right?

siligut

(12,272 posts)
23. Yes, Hispanic people are considered white on the surveys I have seen
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jun 2013

And there are Hispanic skin-heads as well.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
7. You forgot your sarcasm tag, right? Right?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jun 2013

Apparently because someone is registered a Democrat and is identified as a (white) Hispanic, that means it was impossible for him to have profiled a young black male, right?

 

newmember

(805 posts)
24. I think it's important to note
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jun 2013

I have read even members here calling other members racist
on certain topics.

It should not be a word used lightly here or by the media on an individual.
The media seems to throw it out every opportunity they have.

whether it's true or not....

not good........

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
25. If someone is racist, if it is true, it is good to point it out. Not sure why you say "not good".
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jun 2013
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
57. Yes it is.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jun 2013

He murdered a kid because he did not like the way he looked. Self-defense my ass! Martin was armed with skittles and a drink and Zimmerman had a gun. You figure it out!

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
104. Zimmy targeted Trayvon because of how he looked, he profiled the teen he shot because of how he look
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:47 AM
Jun 2013

looked and how he perceived him, "on drugs or something". He had no information beyond his own prejudices.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
42. But you are implying that Zimmerman couldn't be racist because he was Hispanic/a Democrat
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jun 2013

And that's just a ridiculous proposition to the extreme.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
54. Actually, if a person is a racist, it is good to call them on it.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:28 PM
Jun 2013

That was pretty much the cornerstone of the entire civil rights movement.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
90. some think the Martin case is a shibboleth
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jun 2013

and you are slurring your L.

Although some seem to think that every issue is a shibboleth.

You can't be a liberal because you don't smoke the same cigarette as me.

Although I am somewhat ashamed at how dated that reference is.*


*the line about the cigarette is from "Get off of my cloud" which was recorded in 1967.

Apparently some people were born and have grown up long after that year.

I don't know how that's possible, but they say it is true.

 

Soundman

(297 posts)
137. If you
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:33 AM
Jun 2013

Don't follow the herd mentality and think for yourself you are seen a disrupter until you have at least a five digit post count. And if, god forbid, you even entertain the idea that Zimmerman is anything less than a racist, bigoted, cold blooded killer you will be labeled all sorts of things by the small minded. It is interesting how intolerant and discriminatory the supposed tolerant ones can be.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
121. You didn't address Tommy's issues...
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:04 AM
Jun 2013

1. Are you suggesting that since Zimmerman is a registered Democrat, he cannot be a racist?

2. Are you suggesting that since Zimmerman is Hispanic, he therefore can't be a racist?

Please answer these questions.

(Note: I don't know if Zimmerman is a non-white Hispanic or considers himself a white Hispanic.)

 

sad-cafe

(1,277 posts)
8. WTF does that have to do with anything? He murdered a KID
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jun 2013

because he was a little black kid

Morning Dew

(6,539 posts)
10. Since you underlined it,
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jun 2013

that makes it final.

Whew! Glad I don't have to consider that anymore.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
15. This changes everything! Acquit! Acquit!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jun 2013

This thread probably doesn't constitute your finest moment.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
17. So what?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jun 2013

He still ran down and shot an unarmed kid who was innocent of any wrongdoing.

Vigilantes need to be taken off the street.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
19. Does it matter if he was registered to
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jun 2013

The Pansexual Peace Party and identified himself as a rainbow trout?

He killed a person under questionable circumstances. His views on race may very well be scrutinized at trial.

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
27. FWIW, copy/pasting the OP for posterity.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jun 2013

Did you know George Zimmerman was a registered Democrat

Last edited Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:23 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

So he didn't even consider him self white.

This should lay to rest any claims of racism.






Zimmerman's state voter registration document shows that the 28-year-old registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in 2002. Zimmerman apparently went on to identify himself as a Hispanic American, according to the document, which was released Tuesday by the Washington Free Beacon

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
94. are you keeping a terrorist watch list?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:43 PM
Jun 2013

You should apply to work for the NSA.

But they wouldn't have you in the maf-eye-aye.*


*I crack myself up. That's a line from the song "why can't we be friends" by War. Released in 1975, so not nearly as old as the Stones song.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
29. Being a registered democrat
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:42 PM
Jun 2013

Has nothing to do with whether Hispanics and Blacks are bigots to one another.

uppityperson

(116,020 posts)
31. But but but he didn't consider himself white so he couldn't be a racist, see?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jun 2013

shaking my head here

 

newmember

(805 posts)
44. That's because many people agree with me
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jun 2013

This was not a racist issue in the shooting of Trayvon Martin

Race had no relevance in the shooting other than talking heads and news outlet trying to get ratings
calling racism.

that's all it was......

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
47. You stated that anyone who is a registered democrat is not white.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jun 2013

At the risk of having a post hidden: you are an obvious troll being obvious.

curlyred

(1,879 posts)
60. Every time I come across this poster
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:31 PM
Jun 2013

I wonder how it has lasted so long with its borderline comments.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
126. Can you tell us how you know for sure that it is not racism? I'm curious.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jun 2013

Also, it doesn't surprise me that the jury agreed with you. Not at all.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
139. Question
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:44 AM
Jun 2013

Do you think Zimmerman would have confronted or even followed a teenage white kid around? From his 50 prior calls to the cops, there wasn't even one naming a white person as "suspicious".

blogslut

(39,167 posts)
38. Fred Phelps is a registered Democrat
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jun 2013

People's lives are full of details that have no bearing when they commit criminal acts.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
41. Hispanic persons can be of any race; most in the US are white
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jun 2013

Also, persons of any race can be racist.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
65. Sure but members are falling over them selves to call Zimmerman racist with no evidence to prove it
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jun 2013

Hell there isn't one shred of evidence Zimmerman was racist in his life prior to the shooting


Yet members want to call racism ...sad




Response to newmember (Reply #65)

 

newmember

(805 posts)
70. It's being made , just read all the comments where THEY just know Zimmerman is a racist
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jun 2013

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
48. Are you actually attempting to say that Hispanic Democrats can't be racists?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:16 PM
Jun 2013

If only that were true.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
51. No , what I'm saying is the first thing the media jumped on was white guy shoots 17
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jun 2013

year old black kid , when the evidence was clear he was and considered him self Hispanic
They wanted to brush it off because it didn't fit their racist head lines or
the talking heads that love to stir up racism .

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
63. Zimmerman is clearly a racist. That's why he stalked and murdered an unarmed black teenager.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jun 2013

Many Hispanic people consider themselves to be white.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
68. It's not clear at all that he is
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jun 2013

He went into business with a black partner, he is part black himself, etc:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425

I don't know what happened here and I am amazed that so many people feel they do. The entire thing is unlikely, but it's unlikely both ways. Unlikely that the Martin boy would jump Zimmerman, but also unlikely that Zimmerman would willingly physically engage when he had a gun. I think perhaps as the trial goes on and all the evidence is disclosed things might become clearer. Otherwise I feel very sorry for the juror.

But one thing I am sure of, and that is that racial bias does not seem to play a factor in this incident. You may disagree, but bigots don't have the history that Zimmerman does. I've known quite a few, and they aren't friendly with their black neighbors and they don't go into business with black people.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
138. I do believe that you have known a lot of bigots
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:37 AM
Jun 2013

That part of your post is clearly true.

Nice user name btw

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
64. You do know that there are Hispanic people who are racist against blacks right?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jun 2013

And bigots are more ideological in my experience.

Racist come in all colors, just because in our country the majority are white doesn't mean they hold the monopoly.

As for his voter registration, so what. Do you have any clue how many DUers have claimed to be Democrats only to be nuked for their racism or bigotry down the road?

I don't know what point you think you're making here, but I'm thinking you've missed the mark.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
67. He had a black business partner
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

It's unlikely that he is a racist. That doesn't affect his guilt or innocence in this killing, but it does discredit the widespread theory that this was racially motivated, which may have arisen from the "edited" 911 call in which a news network chopped the dialogue to make it appear that Zimmerman was focused on the Martin boy's race when in fact he gave that detail in response to a dispatch request.

Not that Hispanics can't be racially biased towards blacks! But there is no evidence at all that Zimmerman ever was, and a whole lot of facts tending to suggest that he isn't. Including the fact that he is part black himself, the business partner, etc:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425

 

newmember

(805 posts)
74. You should delete that it doesn't fit with the narrative of the members calling him a racist
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

Because THEY just know he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
78. Well there is also the incident in which he protested the beating of the black homeless guy
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jun 2013

in Sanford.

The whole case is just confusing. I feel sorry for the jury and I hope they get to hear some evidence that clears up some of it.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
100. Let's clear this up. A woman can be sexist.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jun 2013

A secretly gay person can be homophobic. One's race or friendships/relationships shouldn't automatically provide a pass when behaving in a racist manner. There are self-hating bigots out there. Can a racist, sexist, or homophobe be intimately involved with a member of a group they routinely bash? Yes. Ask Lou Dobbs about that.

Let's not get distracted about who Z knew or what his racial makeup is. Even if Z were black, he profiled and killed someone and should face the consequences.

egduj

(881 posts)
69. I would hope that neither race nor political ideology would be a factor in any jury decision.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jun 2013

In my perfect world.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
71. But look at this thread and all the comments ......Zimmerman must be a racist!!!!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:07 PM
Jun 2013

sad

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
87. All you need to do is look at the evidence and look at the statements from his brother and father.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jun 2013

The whole clan are a bunch of bigots. Look at the evidence yourself.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
136. Why start threads on the topic if you don't have an opinion?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:28 AM
Jun 2013

Unless you just want to give wooden spoon a work out?

egduj

(881 posts)
73. I don't think George would've followed Trayvon, if Trayvon wasn't black.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

But that has nothing to do with George's race or political slant.

And that's just my opinion. I wasn't there so I don't know.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
79. Your the one who started this sad, fallacious affair ...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jun 2013

And now your going to hide behind yet another lame ass fallacy ...

Really .... I would not mind seeing you give up your membership and walk right the fuck outta here ...

Only then could you think of lifting your eyes from the fucking mud you wallow in ....

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
140. Now you just sound like a troll
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:46 AM
Jun 2013

I'm not getting what the point of this OP is? Care to explain?

Change has come

(2,372 posts)
77. I don't think I've enjoyed a single one of your posts.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jun 2013

You're certainly attracted to DU controversies.

Starry Messenger

(32,381 posts)
84. The twisty defenses of this murdering shitcock are always fascinating.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jun 2013

Sure, he was a fucking choirboy--they all run around with DV priors looking for little boys to kill.

ornotna

(11,482 posts)
89. I don't care if he thought of himself as Mother Teresa
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jun 2013

He stalked and shot and killed a teenage boy.


Anything else?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
91. If you weren't on a bunch of peoples' lists before, you SURE are now...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jun 2013

Zimmy is guilty, get it? Zimmy's "bucket" had room enough for only ONE life experience... and that was shooting a young black man in a hoodie, get it?

I thought everyone knew that.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
95. He maybe, he maybe found he acted due to self defense
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jun 2013

Either way I will accept the finding of the jury who
will hear the evidence.

What I won't accept is all these members using the term racism when no evidence supports it.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
110. "due to self defense" while sitting safely in his car.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:05 AM
Jun 2013

I always get out of my car when I feel I'm in an unsafe environment, rather than just driving away like the police told me to do.

Raine

(31,179 posts)
92. WHY would being a Democrat mean he can't be a racist? You're not fooling anyone with that kind of
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jun 2013

RIDICULOUS statement!

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
99. Nice try
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:19 AM
Jun 2013

A teenager was minding his own business when Z, a child molester and violent thug, gunned him down. Did overt racism play a role? Maybe, maybe not, but racial profiling clearly played a role. Drugs or alcohol may have affected Z's behavior as well, but we'll never know, because the SPD decided that Trayvon was the only person who needed to be tested for drugs. The 911 audio captured how Z profiled Trayvon. Z's thought process while approaching Trayvon was "these fucking punks always get away!" Z was looking for a fight. Z was looking to stop the punk from getting away.

Racist or not, I think the greatest factor leading to the tragedy was Z's lifelong desire to be a cop. Everything in Z's background shows he was a control freak who wanted to force people to respect his authority and bend to his will. Had Z accomplished his goal of becoming a cop, he would have been able to kill a lot more people without anyone batting an eyelash. But he was too crazy to be a cop. That says a lot.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
109. I'm a registered Democrat too
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:01 AM
Jun 2013

Does that mean I can't consider myself white either?

That's what you said about Zimmerman in your OP. He was a registered Democrat so he didn't even consider himself white.

And BTW, he stalked and killed an unarmed teenager. Whether or not he is a racist becomes sort of moot when you think about it.

Captain Stern

(2,253 posts)
111. No, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:44 AM
Jun 2013

Do you know who else was a registered Democrat?......Hitler, that's who!!

Ok, not Hitler (as far as I can prove), But David Duke and George Wallace were Democrats.

A silly opening post deserves a silly response.

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
113. You can register as a democrat and vote republican.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 06:27 AM
Jun 2013

I just don't see this fact as determinative.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
116. Okey dokey.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 07:11 AM
Jun 2013

There are racists in every ethnic group, and murderers in every political party.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
118. And there are even people
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 08:54 AM
Jun 2013

Pretending to be dems on political discussion boards. Takes all kinds I suppose.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
120. I hope you're being sarcastic.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 08:59 AM
Jun 2013

I don't give a holy fuck who he voted for. He is a murderer.

And there are plenty of racist Democrats...and liberal ones, too!!

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
122. So what if he was/is a Democrat.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:05 AM
Jun 2013

Obama won the election with over 58 million votes so there are over 58 million Democrats. Out of that many people, some of them will be bad apples.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
127. Living in Florida I have seen first hand.....
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:09 AM
Jun 2013

the great split between blacks and Hispanics. In many areas it is truly an issue divided among racial lines. Often, it is completely race based. Many do not like to address it. Some areas it even goes as far as being a turf war between the two.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
129. If you think that a registered Democrat can't be racist...
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:13 AM
Jun 2013

... you truly are a newmember. DU just recently established that most Democrats are racist for not loving Obama enough...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
133. So, we're sayin' there are no "white" Democrats?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:20 AM
Jun 2013

I know a few people who are white and are Democrats.

Are you one of those people who believes that "Hispanic" is a skin color?

You need to educate yourself if you think that.

Cameron Diaz is Hispanic. So's Raquel Welch. So's Bill Richardson. For starters. There are Afro-Hispanics, Asian Hispanics, Caucasian Hispanics...Hispanic is a culture, not a race.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
134. I find not only your comments trollish but your name.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 09:21 AM
Jun 2013


You might as well named yourself "not likely to be around very long" because you obviously didn't think that you would be around very long.
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