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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe "Snowden" Effect: We Have No Idea If It Actually Exists, But DNI Clapper Did Lie To Congress
"...militants have begun responding by altering methods of communication...could make it harder...."
"...have begun altering communications patterns in what was believed to be a direct response...."
"...too early to tell whether the recent changes in communications methods had caused a loss...."
"Previous dire warnings of leaks causing huge damage to U.S. national security interests have proved overplayed."
"...militants changing the way they communicate could actually hinder plots...."
"The officials declined to specify what changes were spotted among militant groups...."
"...militants' latest adjustments likely included reduced electronic transmissions and more frequent switching...."
"Exactly how serious the damage might be is difficult to measure...."
"Militants have a long history of trying to cover their electronic tracks."
"Largely using written messages and trusted couriers, al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden hid for years...."
"...analysts around the world are working to determine the operational impact of Snowden's exposure of methods...."
"...the potential damage...is...may have found out technical details...."
"...there could be further fallout...."
"...U.S. agencies are already operating on a "worst case" assumption...."
"U.S. and British officials insist...that...surveillance...has stopped attacks and is essential to public security."
"...is still in the early stages of damage assessment...."
"Washington may face charges of a double standard...."
"How can the United States continue to stand on high moral ground...?"
"It will make it more difficult for us to appear holier than thou...."
http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-effect-u-spies-militants-013034065.html
"...have begun altering communications patterns in what was believed to be a direct response...."
"...too early to tell whether the recent changes in communications methods had caused a loss...."
"Previous dire warnings of leaks causing huge damage to U.S. national security interests have proved overplayed."
"...militants changing the way they communicate could actually hinder plots...."
"The officials declined to specify what changes were spotted among militant groups...."
"...militants' latest adjustments likely included reduced electronic transmissions and more frequent switching...."
"Exactly how serious the damage might be is difficult to measure...."
"Militants have a long history of trying to cover their electronic tracks."
"Largely using written messages and trusted couriers, al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden hid for years...."
"...analysts around the world are working to determine the operational impact of Snowden's exposure of methods...."
"...the potential damage...is...may have found out technical details...."
"...there could be further fallout...."
"...U.S. agencies are already operating on a "worst case" assumption...."
"U.S. and British officials insist...that...surveillance...has stopped attacks and is essential to public security."
"...is still in the early stages of damage assessment...."
"Washington may face charges of a double standard...."
"How can the United States continue to stand on high moral ground...?"
"It will make it more difficult for us to appear holier than thou...."
http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-effect-u-spies-militants-013034065.html
However, it is certain that DNI Clapper lied to Congress about the scope of NSA surveillance:
Clapper's Words: "No, Sir."
Edward Snowden has underscored Clapper's lie and, thus, deserves credit for his whistle-blowing.
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The "Snowden" Effect: We Have No Idea If It Actually Exists, But DNI Clapper Did Lie To Congress (Original Post)
xocet
Jun 2013
OP
Pres Clinton, a Democrat, lied about a BJ and got impeached. Clapper lied about illegal
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)1. Pres Clinton, a Democrat, lied about a BJ and got impeached. Clapper lied about illegal
spying and he gets a pass. Not acceptable especially from centrist Democrats. If you are willing to look the other way over Clapper's lies, then you have no business being a Democrat.
90-percent
(6,866 posts)3. "Pres Clinton, a Democrat, lied about a BJ and got impeached."
GWB had a strategy to insure he was never entrapped under oath to answer inappropriate and intrusive personal questions.
He never testified under oath for anything in his entire two terms.*
-90% Jimmy
* that is an educated guess. I recall he would generally refuse to testify if he was to be put under oath, and even then he would only testify if Dick Cheney was holding his hand.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)4. Reagan had another approach. He couldnt remember anything. nm
Recursion
(56,582 posts)5. Pedantic point
He did stand under oath at both of his inaugurations. Other than that, I think you're right that he never did.
Rise Rebel Resist
(88 posts)2. rec & kick