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sad-cafe

(1,277 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:09 PM Jun 2013

This poor girl does not understand how important this and the idiot lawyer doesn't understand teens

she is going to blow up at him pretty soon. He needs to back off


This girl was the last one to talk to Trayvon Martin and she does not want to be involved.

The defense is really trying to twist her words. She is a typical teen, probably liked TM even though he had a girlfriend.

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This poor girl does not understand how important this and the idiot lawyer doesn't understand teens (Original Post) sad-cafe Jun 2013 OP
I bet there's a context for this. I wonder what it is? Shrike47 Jun 2013 #1
some context would be nice every now and then.... dembotoz Jun 2013 #2
They are referring to the 19-year old witness in the Trayvon Martin trial. femmocrat Jun 2013 #7
that is the handmade34 Jun 2013 #3
Thats what he wants.....cant stand to watch him bait her. Gin Jun 2013 #4
I think the overnight break will help her sad-cafe Jun 2013 #8
Poor kid, this is the dirtiest defense team I've ever seen Warpy Jun 2013 #15
Are you kidding? I think there is a generation gap. But he has been polite while she southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #21
wasn't she warned by the judge not to discuss the case? DrDan Jun 2013 #26
First line of a novel? (nt) enough Jun 2013 #5
Trayvon Martins' friend who was on the phone with him right before he was shot. nt justiceischeap Jun 2013 #6
He knows exactly what he's doing. He'd love it if she blew up. nolabear Jun 2013 #9
He's figuring out what buttons to push flamingdem Jun 2013 #10
She should have been told that this HappyMe Jun 2013 #11
She is doing a terrible job. She is all over the place. You can't understand what the southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #12
she isn't coming across well. woolldog Jun 2013 #16
I don't dislike her. I just think she doesn't realize how she is coming across. I feel bad southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #18
That's three different post Sissyk Jun 2013 #31
He had another girlfriend, not this girl? dkf Jun 2013 #13
She's a girl who happened to be his friend. She was the last one who talked with him. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #19
So the OP is mistaken? dkf Jun 2013 #20
Well I listened to what she said. She said they were just friends and nothing more. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #22
Yes they were just friends... dkf Jun 2013 #23
That I don't know. I really haven't been following the case. I just happened to tune in to this southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #24
She was already in trouble prior to this. dkf Jun 2013 #25
Yes. it was established today that that was the case. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #28
Everyone hates defense lawyers....until you need one. davidn3600 Jun 2013 #14
She twisted her words herself - she is not a good witness ksoze Jun 2013 #17
horrible witness - has already given 3 different answers as to whether the voice on the tape is DrDan Jun 2013 #30
TWA Flight 800 HockeyMom Jun 2013 #27
I really appreciate your perspective. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #29
Even if her credibility is gone....he shot and killed an unarmed person......surely the case doesnt Gin Jun 2013 #32
Tomorrow is probably going to be worse for her Lurks Often Jun 2013 #33
 

sad-cafe

(1,277 posts)
8. I think the overnight break will help her
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:13 PM
Jun 2013

and maybe give her a chance to calm down a little bit.


Warpy

(114,615 posts)
15. Poor kid, this is the dirtiest defense team I've ever seen
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jun 2013

and I'm old so I've seen some real dillies.

They must've made their bones defending the Klan.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
21. Are you kidding? I think there is a generation gap. But he has been polite while she
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jun 2013

has been disrespectful. Did you the the prosecutor on the Jodi Arias case. Now that guy will make you cry. She doesn't seem to understand what is going on. It has nothing to do with race either. I'm pulling for Trayon's family and this girl is hurting his side I think. But your right hopefully overnight her mother will tell her how she is coming across.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
26. wasn't she warned by the judge not to discuss the case?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jun 2013

If she talks to her Mother about her testimony I would assume that would violate the judge's instructions.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
9. He knows exactly what he's doing. He'd love it if she blew up.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jun 2013

Hopefully before tomorrow when they resume someone will advise her to be calm and not let them get to her.

flamingdem

(40,891 posts)
10. He's figuring out what buttons to push
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jun 2013

and as the msnbc commentator said he wants to bring in the content of earlier trayvon messages that are either racy/racial

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
11. She should have been told that this
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jun 2013

guy was going to go after her every word. She needs to check that attitude.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
12. She is doing a terrible job. She is all over the place. You can't understand what the
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jun 2013

heck she says. There is such a generation gap. He doesn't get her and she doesn't get him. I don't think the defense is trying to twist her words. I think he is trying to find out what she is saying. Just watching the TV I think she is a little disrespectful to the defense attorney. Did you notice Trayon's father kept shaking his head. She just doesn't seem to understand or take what is going on really serious. I mean everyone watching is weighing everything a witness says. She isn't coming off well. Here am on Trayon's side.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
16. she isn't coming across well.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jun 2013

She's disrespectful, rude, stupid, and doesn't seem to be taking the proceedings seriously.

The question is whether her testimony is deemed credible by the jury. You can dislike her, not want to hang out with her, but still believe her story.

I have no idea what the jury is thinking on that point.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
18. I don't dislike her. I just think she doesn't realize how she is coming across. I feel bad
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jun 2013

for Trayon's parents. I think the defense is winning.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
31. That's three different post
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jun 2013

you have used the wrong name. If you are on his side, get his name correct.

Trayvon.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
22. Well I listened to what she said. She said they were just friends and nothing more.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jun 2013

They never dated as a couple. She was just the last person who talked with him.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
23. Yes they were just friends...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jun 2013

I was wondering if he had a girlfriend who had not been mentioned so far.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
24. That I don't know. I really haven't been following the case. I just happened to tune in to this
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jun 2013

trainwreck of a witness. I think she helped the defense.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
25. She was already in trouble prior to this.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jun 2013

I thought she was actually more effective than I expected because her credibility was already suspect.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
14. Everyone hates defense lawyers....until you need one.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jun 2013

If you are a defendant charged with murder you feel you are innocent of, trust me, you will want your attorney to do the same thing.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
17. She twisted her words herself - she is not a good witness
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jun 2013

The prosecution is playing what they got, but this witness is being shown as a story changing, lying at times, confused adult.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
30. horrible witness - has already given 3 different answers as to whether the voice on the tape is
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:25 PM
Jun 2013

Martins:

"it is"
"it could be"
"I don't know"

I do know the defense will not forget that.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
27. TWA Flight 800
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jun 2013

I was a witness, but not a typical one. For that reason I kept getting calls. How they got my name and phone number I don't know, but I got calls from family crying on the phone asking me if I would testify in a class action suit.

No. I did not want to get involved. Just all the interviews was enough to to give me an ulcer, and disrupt my life. That this TEENAGER did not want to go to the funeral, or want to get involved, I can totally understand that. It can wreck total havoc on your life.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
29. I really appreciate your perspective.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:22 PM
Jun 2013

I think people are extremely condescinding to her just because she doesn't speak the Queen's english and is not enthusiastic about testyfying.

Gin

(7,212 posts)
32. Even if her credibility is gone....he shot and killed an unarmed person......surely the case doesnt
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:45 PM
Jun 2013

Depend on this girl........wonder if she understands her roll in all of this and how important she can be......

Was she prepped by the prosecution? Not a good witness for them at all. IMO

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
33. Tomorrow is probably going to be worse for her
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jun 2013

The defense has all night to go over what she has said and look for ways to pick holes in what she has said so far and look for ways to get her to perjure herself or otherwise destroy her credibility.

It's not the defense's job to be nice to her, their job is to give their client the best possible defense.

I fully expect the prosecution to behave similarly when they are cross-examining the defense's witnesses.

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