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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:01 PM Jun 2013

Latest Glenn Greenwald Scoop Vindicates NSA Whistleblowers

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/nsa-whistleblower-klein/?cid=co9260244

NSA Leak Vindicates AT&T Whistleblower
Today’s revelations that the National Security Agency collected bulk data on the email traffic of millions of Americans provides startling evidence for the first time to support a whistleblower’s longstanding claims that AT&T was forwarding global internet traffic to the government from secret rooms inside its offices.

The collection program, which lasted from 2001 to 2011, involved email metadata — the “enveloped” information for email that reveals the sender’s address and recipient, as well as IP addresses and websites visited, the Guardian newspaper reported today.

Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, revealed in 2006 that his job duties included connecting internet circuits to a splitting cabinet that led to a secret room in AT&T’s San Francisco office. During the course of that work, he learned from a co-worker that similar cabins were being installed in other cities, including Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego, he said.

The split circuits included traffic from peering links connecting to other internet backbone providers, meaning that AT&T was also diverting traffic routed from its network to or from other domestic and international providers, Klein said.


Latest Glenn Greenwald Scoop Vindicates One Of The Original NSA Whistleblowers

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-whistleblower-william-binney-was-right-2013-6#ixzz2XSbM53pC

William Binney — one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in National Security Agency (NSA) history — worked for America's premier covert intelligence gathering organization for 32 years before resigning in late 2001 because he "could not stay after the NSA began purposefully violating the Constitution."

Binney claims that the NSA took one of the programs he built, known as ThinThread, and started using the program and members of his team to spy on virtually every U.S. citizen under the code-name Stellar Wind.

Thanks to NSA whistleblower/leaker Edward Snowden, documents detailing the top-secret surveillance program have now been published for the first time.

And they corroborate what Binney has said for years.


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Latest Glenn Greenwald Scoop Vindicates NSA Whistleblowers (Original Post) Luminous Animal Jun 2013 OP
These men, all of them, deserve a medal. I hope they got one one day. n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #1
+1. Telling the truth and exposing Govt corruption are American values worth honoring /nt think Jun 2013 #2
Too Sad That TV Propaganda Has So Dulled The American Sensibility cantbeserious Jun 2013 #5
Hey we have an eight leaker now nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3
Wow...have NO IDEA how to reply to that revelation... KoKo Jun 2013 #6
Well we know Stuxnet did get lose and did a lot of damage nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #8
Stuxnet attacked ONLY one uranium centrifuge. Kolesar Jun 2013 #27
Rachel just reported it too. spooky3 Jun 2013 #18
It is MSNBC who broke it in the morning nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #19
And some day they may just get it fascisthunter Jun 2013 #12
Russ Tice...Google Him BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #13
Among them one President Obama nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #20
+2 limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #16
Greenwald exposes NSA updating programs railsback Jun 2013 #4
Really.. Do you have a LINK? Otherwise why should what you say be taken KoKo Jun 2013 #7
He tried the same thing with me... it was hilarious. Bonobo Jun 2013 #9
I nailed him on his unsupported spew of BS in this thread: bvar22 Jun 2013 #30
Looks like you're into the Desperation Phase, when denial no longer works. Next phase of course is rhett o rick Jun 2013 #29
Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #10
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #11
K&R for this country we love fascisthunter Jun 2013 #14
K&R burnodo Jun 2013 #15
Buncha racists. TransitJohn Jun 2013 #17
I don't believe ANYTHING Greenwald says, not a damn thing. I'm also not taking what these people uponit7771 Jun 2013 #21
B-b-b-but SNOOOWDEN's not credible!!! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #22
This is good that this stream of infromation is coming Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #23
remember the film "Enemy of the State"? auntsue Jun 2013 #24
Old NEWS nahant Jun 2013 #25
K&R NealK Jun 2013 #26
I can't remember if this is impossible, or if it's something we already knew. reusrename Jun 2013 #28
kick woo me with science Jun 2013 #31

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. Wow...have NO IDEA how to reply to that revelation...
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jun 2013

because it gets into conflicting territory. This is disturbing...but, hard to not feel that there's more there than we know and that we don't wan't to Jump On This...too soon.

What did YOU think of it Nadin...? But...if you are like me...you'd probably want to see how it plays out a bit before commenting.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. Well we know Stuxnet did get lose and did a lot of damage
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jun 2013

to allied companies and countries in the Gulf region.

We have known somebody leaked the news for a few years, not who.

So it raises way too many questions... it is in parallel to all this. The actual leak is actually old news, the leaker is very surprising... a four star? you mean brass? Now that is heavy.

And one who was part of the program to begin with.

The cyber attack was essentially a cyber pearl harbor, the kind that Keith Alexander fears in the US... of course hard to claim victim status when you opened fire first.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
27. Stuxnet attacked ONLY one uranium centrifuge.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 06:04 AM
Jun 2013

If you have something that counters that fact, I would like to see it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. It is MSNBC who broke it in the morning
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jun 2013

just the Vice Chairman of the Joints Chiefs... nobody.

This will be one to watch.

Now time to write that immigration story.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
12. And some day they may just get it
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:21 PM
Jun 2013

it's what scares the shit out of those supporting our current policies.

 

BehindTheCurtain76

(112 posts)
13. Russ Tice...Google Him
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jun 2013

Russ Tice WILL BE VINDICATED....Obama and many federal judges and Congressional members are being blackmailed by NSA and the military...in my opinion.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. Among them one President Obama
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jun 2013

I got reason to believe that my large block of salt on that story went down to a single grain.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Really.. Do you have a LINK? Otherwise why should what you say be taken
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jun 2013

seriously except for a "LOL" for your snark.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
30. I nailed him on his unsupported spew of BS in this thread:
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023108712

...starting at Post#14.

The guy is a bad joke.
He's got No Game at all.
Even the kindergarten attempts at snark are an embarrassing fail.

My wife later read this segment,
and was mad at me for "Beating Up on a child."
In a way, she is right.
Some people are just better suited for the Beavis & Butthead ChatRoom at AOL.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. Looks like you're into the Desperation Phase, when denial no longer works. Next phase of course is
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jun 2013

the Lash Out Phase.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. I don't believe ANYTHING Greenwald says, not a damn thing. I'm also not taking what these people
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jun 2013

...say at face value no matter WHO is in office now because they'll do crap like Greenwald did with Prism; not get the technology intentions correct and report them at their worst for the sake of hating on whatever admin

The credibilty of whistlblower reporters has gone to crap because of greenwald

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
22. B-b-b-but SNOOOWDEN's not credible!!!
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jun 2013

Even though his disclosures have been verified from other sources...

The ratfuckers here on DU are completely shameless.

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
23. This is good that this stream of infromation is coming
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jun 2013

out now. I hope more surfaces to add more layers of evidence because there are still some in the American public that haven't decided which side of this issue they should be on.

auntsue

(277 posts)
24. remember the film "Enemy of the State"?
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:03 PM
Jun 2013

When it came out I told my sister............ I'll bet this is all true. I think I was right !!!

nahant

(93 posts)
25. Old NEWS
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:04 PM
Jun 2013

I knew as soon as I heard about the "Splitters" that all internet traffic was being scooped up by the NSA.. but of course they denied denied any such thing.. This shit has to be stopped!1

Ohy yeah I worked in networks systems Admin for 25 yearso I do know exactly what was being done to all of our electronic communications.. Guess the USPS is still the best way to send a private message..

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
28. I can't remember if this is impossible, or if it's something we already knew.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:08 AM
Jun 2013

Baloney or old news, which is it again?

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