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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:17 PM Feb 2012

Graphic !!! - Virginia Ultrasound Bill: Republican Lawmaker Calls Abortion 'Lifestyle Convenience'

Virginia Ultrasound Bill: Republican Lawmaker Calls Abortion 'Lifestyle Convenience'
John Celock - HuffPo
First Posted: 02/14/2012 2:38 pm Updated: 02/14/2012 2:52 pm

<snip>

A top Republican legislative leader in Virginia described abortion as a "lifestyle convenience" during the floor debate on a controversial measure to require trans-vaginal ultrasounds before a woman can get an abortion.



State Del. C. Todd Gilbert (R-Woodstock) made the comment midday Tuesday as the House of Delegates took up consideration of the ultrasound bill. The bill -- which then passed the House 63 to 36 -- would require any woman seeking an abortion in the state to receive an ultrasound first. As an external ultrasound is not able to produce a necessary picture early in pregnancy, a trans-vaginal ultrasound would be needed to produce an image of the fetus.

While addressing the debate, Gilbert, the House's deputy majority leader, took to the floor to support the bill. The Shenandoah Valley lawmaker used his floor statement to describe most abortions as a "lifestyle convenience" for women. Witnesses said that Gilbert did not clarify which abortions he does not consider to be "lifestyle conveniences."


Within minutes of Gilbert's statement, two Democratic lawmakers -- Del. Mark Keam (D-Fairfax County) and Del. David Englin (D-Alexandria) -- both sent out the remarks on Twitter. Englin, who commented "Wow" in his Tweet about Gilbert's floor statement, said that Gilbert's exact words were "a matter of lifestyle convenience."

Gilbert has not returned a call from The Huffington Post for comment on his statement. Aides to Gilbert said the lawmaker was on the House floor and then in meetings off the floor following adjournment of today's session.

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More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/14/virginia-ultrasound-bill-republican-abortion-lifestyle-convenience_n_1276799.html

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Graphic !!! - Virginia Ultrasound Bill: Republican Lawmaker Calls Abortion 'Lifestyle Convenience' (Original Post) WillyT Feb 2012 OP
Get the gubmint off of my back and into a woman's uterus!!! neverforget Feb 2012 #1
Outrageous! graywarrior Feb 2012 #2
They're all for less government until it comes to my vagina or womb justiceischeap Feb 2012 #3
Does the definition of rape in Virginia include vaginal penetration? baldguy Feb 2012 #4
Because it would be done by a doctor? justiceischeap Feb 2012 #6
So doctors can't rape? Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #23
I didn't say that... justiceischeap Feb 2012 #27
How much does this medically unneccesary procedure cost? And os the gov picking up the tab? peacebird Feb 2012 #7
I've had TV ultrasounds. AnnieBW Feb 2012 #5
idiots fascisthunter Feb 2012 #8
I imagine plenty of women will continue with unwanted pregnancies just to avoid this proceedure. pa28 Feb 2012 #9
or go to a border state for an abortion... CTyankee Feb 2012 #26
No sir they are not LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #10
Word !!! WillyT Feb 2012 #11
If I get some time in the next day or so ... I will edit that graphic and repost it ... JoePhilly Feb 2012 #12
GOP's smaller government at work ... my quick update of the original image ... JoePhilly Feb 2012 #13
Texas 'image' version on the link below Tx4obama Feb 2012 #15
Well Done !!! WillyT Feb 2012 #19
I have two young daughters ... and the last thing I want is a Republican or a Bishop ... JoePhilly Feb 2012 #20
Totally stolen! tammywammy Feb 2012 #21
Ouch!! ... and yes ... steal away!!!! Reuse ... SEND ... TWEET!!! JoePhilly Feb 2012 #24
what a perfect response to that comment. barbtries Feb 2012 #25
Stealing! JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #28
I can't help it. Ilsa Feb 2012 #14
This is going to be TMI, but I had to stop myself GobBluth Feb 2012 #16
isn't this against the Constitution? warrior1 Feb 2012 #17
Abortion is legal. I don't understand how this very intrusive and humiliating and SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #22
It always comes down to "if you didn't want a baby you should have kept your legs together"... JHB Feb 2012 #18

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
3. They're all for less government until it comes to my vagina or womb
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:47 PM
Feb 2012

Then they want to legislate the hell out of those.

Shouldn't they be more concerned about jobs or something?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
4. Does the definition of rape in Virginia include vaginal penetration?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:47 PM
Feb 2012

If it does, please explain why this procedure isn't rape?

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
6. Because it would be done by a doctor?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:52 PM
Feb 2012


I get your point and I agree with it but I'm sure they'd argue what I did.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
27. I didn't say that...
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 08:18 AM
Feb 2012

I'm saying what the whacko's would probably respond with... doesn't mean I agree.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
7. How much does this medically unneccesary procedure cost? And os the gov picking up the tab?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:57 PM
Feb 2012

AnnieBW

(12,706 posts)
5. I've had TV ultrasounds.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:49 PM
Feb 2012

They are not pleasant. It's not like a dildo or a vibrator. It's BIG. And they move it around to get a good view. And it is NOT ribbed for the patient's pleasure.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
9. I imagine plenty of women will continue with unwanted pregnancies just to avoid this proceedure.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:03 PM
Feb 2012

Mission accomplished for fundamentalist right wing control freaks.

Once the baby is born and in need of medical or financial assistance those same people will say "tough shit".

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
10. No sir they are not
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:07 PM
Feb 2012

but you know what IS a lifestyle convenience, Mr. Gilbert? Your car. Your cellphone. Your computer. And your government paycheck. Are you still interested in banning all lifestyle conveniences, Mr. Gilbert? Inquiring minds want to know.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
12. If I get some time in the next day or so ... I will edit that graphic and repost it ...
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:20 PM
Feb 2012

And the "Transducer" will be relabeled "GOP's Smaller Government" ...

... and the title on the image will be something like ... "The GOP's Smaller Government at work".

... and the hand holding the transducer will be something like "John Boehner", or "GOP Congress" ...

And maybe a caption ... "why should a woman have a government official standing between her and her doctor, when she could have a GOP legislator inserted directly into her Vagina?"

The web needs to be flooded with images like this one calling the GOP out.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
20. I have two young daughters ... and the last thing I want is a Republican or a Bishop ...
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:06 PM
Feb 2012

standing between them and their doctor!!!!

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
21. Totally stolen!
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:31 PM
Feb 2012

Just used it on a republican blaming democrats for "shoving their beliefs down everyone's throat."

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
24. Ouch!! ... and yes ... steal away!!!! Reuse ... SEND ... TWEET!!!
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 03:47 PM
Feb 2012

We need to crush these right wing maniacs.

Ilsa

(64,331 posts)
14. I can't help it.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:52 PM
Feb 2012

These stories make me wish some eye-opening evil would befall them that they would have to live with for another 2-3 decades until they killed themselves.

GobBluth

(109 posts)
16. This is going to be TMI, but I had to stop myself
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:26 AM
Feb 2012

from almost having an orgasm when I had one. It was just biological, I wasn't turned on, but my midwife kept hitting my "spots".

I couldn't imagine if I was a rape victim having to do this. It is very intrusive. The only reason I said yes is because I had a very wanted pregnancy and I was spotting and freaking out. Willing to do anything to ease my mind.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
17. isn't this against the Constitution?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:11 AM
Feb 2012

Allowing basically a rape to happen by the order of the "king"?

Will it be challenged?

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
22. Abortion is legal. I don't understand how this very intrusive and humiliating and
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:24 AM
Feb 2012

completely medically uneccessary procedure in order to obtain what is legal, is allowed to stand unchallenged.


JHB

(38,174 posts)
18. It always comes down to "if you didn't want a baby you should have kept your legs together"...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:25 AM
Feb 2012

..."you (derisive expletive implying low morality deleted)!"

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