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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm waiting for the end of the Zimmermann trial before commenting, BUT...
Really what can we here, or anyone else for that matter do if Zimmermann is found not guilty?
Will Trayvon Martin's family go after Zimmermann in civil court?
customerserviceguy
(25,406 posts)with a full exoneration of an acquittal, Martin's family cannot go after any of GZ's assets.
In any case, I doubt there will be any, he'll be spending every possible dime on security, someone will want to be a "hero" and kill him. He's screwed either way, the only outcome being watched is whether his lawyer can get him off, nervous banksters will gladly pony up the tens of millions of dollars needed for legal fees. Of course, they'll have enough remaining to hire rent-a-cops to guard them, Zimmy probably doesn't have that going for him.
Llewlladdwr
(2,175 posts)...off of book deals and speaking engagements.
customerserviceguy
(25,406 posts)to buy a couple of million books, but the security costs of speaking engagements and/or book signings would take all of the profit out of those activities.
This is a man who will have to live like Salman Rushdie for the rest of his days.
Skittles
(171,704 posts)since he is already an utter f***ing coward, his paranoia will increase with each passing year
tavernier
(14,443 posts)Even OJ - and we all heard that his life wouldn't be worth a plugged nickel - swanned around the country until a petty burglary put him back behind bars.
Most people are not capable of murder, contract style. And the mafia isn't interested in revenge outside of their own circle.
customerserviceguy
(25,406 posts)but I don't find it comparable. Even after paying for a Dream Team of lawyers still had enough money for personal security. Also, white America is generally more content with the legal system than minority America, and there were far fewer people willing to make a name for themselves by finding and killing OJ. Besides, anyone who wanted to see OJ suffer could get their jollies watching Fred Goldman take him apart in civil court.
I would imagine that many places would erupt in riots if there were an acquittal in the Zimmerman case, and there will be vows of death threats on him for years to come. All that has to happen is for Zimmy to fail once, and he's shot dead. In any case, O'Mara doesn't need to worry about that, he'll have plenty of business from those willing and able to pay him the millions he'll be worth if he can get GZ acquitted.
grok
(550 posts)Actually it may go quite well. I estimate the martins have at least 700 thousand dollar bankkroll after the HOS insurance company decided to settle early you can do alot with 700K! After crump and company got their cut of the loot.
The level of proof is MUCH MUCH lower too a civil trial. So who knows?
However count on gz invoking the STG law after arguments in this trial or after the trial itself. iff affirmed by a court, can't be sued.
The other issue is gz actually may not have many liquid assets or simply transfer what little he has to his wife's name. And then declare bankruptcy.
I doubt the Feds go after him. In so many ways they have already stated its not civil rights matter. with the martins+Lawyers declaring publicly it isn't racial makes it even more problematic.
Azathoth
(4,677 posts)And the suit likely will be dismissed because of SYG.
Gman
(24,780 posts)After OJ was acquitted, Fred Goldman, father of Ron Goldman sued OJ in civil court and won. The burden of proof in a civil trial (preponderance if the evidence) is much lower than in a criminal case (beyond the shadow of a doubt). If Z is acquitted, he'd have a very hard time winning a wrongful death suit.
Perhaps the stand your ground law in FL prohibits wrongful death suits when someone has been acquitted using a SYG defense?
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I remember watching the Rodney king beating trial. When the verdict came in I was shocked, then I heard rumbling and when I looked outside I saw that it was people running. There was chaos and beatings, robbing and fighting, burning and bleeding. People i knew well were actually burning down buildings and robbing fedco.
I thing he will be convicted of something, if not i think he will be murdered. By a vigilante.
Just Saying
(1,799 posts)I don't know Florida law for certain but I would guess they can still sue for wrongful death. Civil trials have a far lower standard of preponderance of evidence rather than beyond a reasonable doubt.
Someone mentioned SYG which is a criminal defense and I don't believe would have any bearing on a civil case.
Of course it was in CA, but OJ was acquitted, but still lost a civil suit. And in this case, we know Zimmerman killed Trayvon.
Now I'm going by the law where I live as I understand it and I'm not a lawyer. Perhaps someone here knows FL law? But most answers you get will be speculation.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)mwrguy
(3,245 posts)floated a couple of suggestions.
He may wish he was in jail.