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graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:34 AM Jul 2013

What I love about America is the peaceful transfer of power-every 4 to 8 yrs

other places have to have fighting and waste of money destruction of proterty, killing and anarchy to change leaders

Good or bad, there is an election every 4 years, and when the old president is out, a helicopter comes and they leave, no questions asked.

Yes, there were conspiracy theories that W wouldn't leave, but gosh darn it, the helicopter came and he never came back.

In 2016, same thing.

Don't like the President that President Obama replaced, don't vote for W's brother Jeb.

Always two choices, and every time, there is a peaceful transfer.

Which is why everyone wants to come to America, they marvel at our system as we have an order to it, not violence or chaos
and anarchy.

IMHO

(and yes at certain times, bad events happened, however, there was an orderly process of the VP taking the oath
and continuing the President's agenda, as happened when LBJ replaced the deceased JFK.)

The public decides. Peacefully. At the voting booth. As it should be. (being that the founding fathers put this system in place and
was what they desired.)

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What I love about America is the peaceful transfer of power-every 4 to 8 yrs (Original Post) graham4anything Jul 2013 OP
Response Patrick Powers Jul 2013 #1
Hordes of Canadians are crashing our borders leftstreet Jul 2013 #2
lol... redgreenandblue Jul 2013 #5
Hardly unique. the peaceful transfer of power happens all over the world. cali Jul 2013 #3
Like in Eqypt now? All that waste of lives and destruction to change a leader. graham4anything Jul 2013 #7
uh, no. like in all the countries in Europe and Canada and Mexico and South America cali Jul 2013 #24
Egypt = all over the world? Bradical79 Jul 2013 #33
I gotta remember to start looking at who posted the OP before I click on it. RC Jul 2013 #4
The changing of political leaders between the two dominant parties Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #6
This. Apophis Jul 2013 #10
+1 deutsey Jul 2013 #12
+1 Getting a new Prez is like getting a new CEO n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #13
good point marions ghost Jul 2013 #14
How boring our way is. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #8
Thank you for this warm reminder, G4A. BlueCaliDem Jul 2013 #9
But the damage they do lives on for decades... marions ghost Jul 2013 #11
We shall overcome and that too shall pass. The smoke will clear in 2017. graham4anything Jul 2013 #15
The toll is too great, the losses are too severe marions ghost Jul 2013 #22
The peaceful transfer of the appearance of power... Orsino Jul 2013 #16
That's because the REAL power in America is held by those who are never elected. hughee99 Jul 2013 #17
Jesus Christ. galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #18
Two choices. In business that's called a duopoly. marmar Jul 2013 #19
There is no 'transfer' of anything. The names and faces are different, but the game is the bike man Jul 2013 #20
Meet the new Bush. Same as the old Bush. forestpath Jul 2013 #21
Even China has a peaceful transfer every ten years. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #23
I like diner food. Recursion Jul 2013 #25
There was a little squabble called the civil war when some people weren't happy about the outcome. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #26
Maybe it shouldn't have been so peaceful KamaAina Jul 2013 #27
What a joke... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #28
Ronald Reagan has been President since 1981, switching parties and/or faces TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #29
Good to see how few are persuaded by the charade we call democracy. Obama was the last straw... reformist2 Jul 2013 #30
80-20 is coming. 95% of the folks are very happy with thought of Hillary. graham4anything Jul 2013 #34
*whooosh* Scurrilous Jul 2013 #31
there is no transfer of power really... wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #32
Knowing what I know now, sofa king Jul 2013 #35

leftstreet

(40,500 posts)
2. Hordes of Canadians are crashing our borders
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jul 2013

Everyone wants to come here!

All Your Word Salads R Belong somewhere Else

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
7. Like in Eqypt now? All that waste of lives and destruction to change a leader.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jul 2013

Here we have an election, peaceful.

People here have a choice.

Shame they have made the wrong ones in 1952, 1956, 1968,1972,1980,1984,1988, 2000 and 2004 when the other party got seated.

Remember, 2000 never would have happened had Jimmy Carter been reelected in 1980 .

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. uh, no. like in all the countries in Europe and Canada and Mexico and South America
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jul 2013

people in those countries have a choice. They have elections. They have a peaceful transfer of power.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
6. The changing of political leaders between the two dominant parties
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jul 2013

in the US is not a significant 'transfer of power'.

It is a change of nominal leadership resulting, sometimes, in bits and pieces of change. But real power is not 'transferred', nor is the status quo threatened in any way by the platforms of either major party. Rhetorically, perhaps, but not measurably in real policy terms.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
14. good point
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jul 2013

the status quo is never in jeopardy. The sins of the corporations are forgiven and budgets are balanced on the backs of the people.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
8. How boring our way is.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:54 AM
Jul 2013

I say we do an Idiocracy style event at the end of each presidency.

!!!!!Extreme Rehabilitation!!!!!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. Thank you for this warm reminder, G4A.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jul 2013

Don't listen to the "hate America first" crowd that's infested this site. They're no different than the TeaBaggers on the AlwaysWrongRight - and share many things in common including, but not limited to, deep dislike for Obama and Democrats, fear of Big Gubmint, freedumbs, American sell-outs, and propagandists that have been proven to have lied time and again, and they're focused on taking this president down.

However, I'll voice my opinion that I might have to disagree with a part of your post.

Ever since the rightwing in SCOTUS gutted the VRA, Republican controlled states immediately instituted egregious voter laws intended to suppress the Democratic vote, and there just might be a less peaceful transfer of power in the next coming years. Corporate America has the money and the clout, and is hellbent on usurping this wonderful government to replace it with small fiefdoms {Corporations} headed by kings {CEOs}, and the loud fringe on both extreme sides of the political spectrum are being fooled into doing their bidding. We must be vigilant so that they don't succeed.

Thank you for taking the time to post.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
11. But the damage they do lives on for decades...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jul 2013

so now we're supposed to be thankful for this corporatocracy that knows no boundaries?

In case you haven't noticed, even the voting booth is in jeopardy for Dems.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
15. We shall overcome and that too shall pass. The smoke will clear in 2017.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jul 2013

President Obama's and Clinton's and Carter's SCOTUS weren't part of the 5 bad ones.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
22. The toll is too great, the losses are too severe
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:08 PM
Jul 2013

and we shall not overcome without generating a lot of pressure on those who will resist any of that overcoming stuff.

Bring democracy to America, and then we'll talk about WTF just happened....mkay?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
16. The peaceful transfer of the appearance of power...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jul 2013

...which in no way threatens the ruling class.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. That's because the REAL power in America is held by those who are never elected.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jul 2013

The people who truly have the power keep it by maintaining the illusion for the masses. This certainly isn't unique to America, though.

 

bike man

(620 posts)
20. There is no 'transfer' of anything. The names and faces are different, but the game is the
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jul 2013

same. The new names and faces are using the very same playbook as the names/faces they replaced.

At the two year cycle, even the names and faces don't change all that much. If an incumbent seeks reelection (and other than for reasons of death or retirement, most do) he/she has a 90% chance of success - because the people vote for 'the name they know', and the politicians know this.

About the biggest change one can count on is new drapes in the White House.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
23. Even China has a peaceful transfer every ten years.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:14 PM
Jul 2013

You get either a communist or a communist.

Here in the US, you get a corportist or a corportist. Sorry, I agree with Malloy. Clinton was the best Republican president we ever had. And Obama is pretty much a centrist corporate type too.

Just chose the wedge issue you like, who supports your point of view and then vote for the corportist of your choosing. Meanwhile, people like Grayson, Warren, Kucinich and Sanders are looked at as kooks.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
26. There was a little squabble called the civil war when some people weren't happy about the outcome.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jul 2013
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
28. What a joke...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:36 PM
Jul 2013

Corporations pick the candidates. So yea, we have a choice...between a Corporatist Republican and a Corporatist Democrat. Zero chance of Kucinich, Dean, or others making it onto a GE ballot.
Soviet Union also had peaceful transfers of power, voters had a choice between two communists on the ballot.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
29. Ronald Reagan has been President since 1981, switching parties and/or faces
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jul 2013

every 4-8 years.

Power of any magnitude is concentrated in the hands of a small percentage of wealthy people and that power changes hands most often on death and is passed along to another family member, this has no connections to elections that decide letters next to names and the rhetoric used to justify funneling more wealth to the few and powerful.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
30. Good to see how few are persuaded by the charade we call democracy. Obama was the last straw...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jul 2013

for many of us, I suspect.
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
34. 80-20 is coming. 95% of the folks are very happy with thought of Hillary.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

Just because a couple of people disagree, that's America.

 

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)
32. there is no transfer of power really...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jul 2013

just changing of the guard. The corporations have the power regardless of who's in office.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
35. Knowing what I know now,
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jul 2013

I would have fought to the death to prevent the election of 2000 from being stolen. I could have saved a million lives and twice as many minds, including my own.

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