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RIP, heroes. (Original Post) MiddleFingerMom Jul 2013 OP
The Yarnell fire is now over 8000 acres. Wait Wut Jul 2013 #1
Still 0%? bunnies Jul 2013 #2
One comment from a firefighter said... Wait Wut Jul 2013 #3
Its hard to comprehend that wildfires are still so uncontrollable. bunnies Jul 2013 #6
From fire officials, now in two countries, nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #8
hotter and more intense... bunnies Jul 2013 #13
It's the terrain. Wait Wut Jul 2013 #9
Most folks don't get the terrain nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #10
Thanks for the link. bunnies Jul 2013 #14
By the way nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #16
I am willing to bet hot shot crews are on their way nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #4
WHAT?!?!?!? MiddleFingerMom Jul 2013 #5
They got a fire to put out nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #7
OK, kinda. Go back and read your Post #4. As posted, it was VERY cold... MiddleFingerMom Jul 2013 #11
I will ask this question nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #12
You keep amending your statements, Okey-dokey. I'm done here. MiddleFingerMom Jul 2013 #15
Then you forgot that part of it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #17

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
1. The Yarnell fire is now over 8000 acres.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jul 2013

0% contained. We're expecting thunderstorms and high winds.

We'll have a lot more firefighters out there. Their courage after losing 19 of their own is beyond my imagination.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
2. Still 0%?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jul 2013

omg, ww, this is so horrible. I just read that something like 400 firefighters are out there. I cant even imagine how horrific it must be. Are you in danger where you are?

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
3. One comment from a firefighter said...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jul 2013

...it was 'out of control'. It's just so damned dry out there. Prescott, where I am, got about 20 minutes of steady rain yesterday and we still had at least two local wildfires. Yarnell didn't get a drop of rain. Just lightning and wind.

We're safe. Yarnell is about 30 miles south of us. Worried about the firefighters that are out there now and the tiny town of Yarnell.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
6. Its hard to comprehend that wildfires are still so uncontrollable.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jul 2013

It just seems like with all this technology *someone* would have come up with *something* to keep these damn things in check. I just feel so horrible for all you guys down there. The people of Yarnell, losing their homes is bad enough but 19 friends and neighbors on top of it... Its beyond heartbreaking. Im so sorry this is happening to your beautiful state. I wish there was something the rest of us could do.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. From fire officials, now in two countries,
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jul 2013

They are getting hotter and more intense.

And tech has improved a lot...both with comms and fire gear. But some of the gear, like the very much revered Pulaski tool, go all the way back to the early par of the last century.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
13. hotter and more intense...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jul 2013

I wonder if thats the reason those poor firefighters didnt survive inside their shelters. It had to be a hellish end for such a group of brave people. It just doesnt seem fair.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
9. It's the terrain.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jul 2013

It's all rock and boulders with old, dried out scrub and dead trees. I can't imagine what they could come up with that wouldn't destroy the environment completely.

And, there is something the rest of you can do, if you're able. Donate here:

http://www.wffoundation.org/

This isn't just for the Granite Mountain Hot Shots, but all wildland firefighters.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Most folks don't get the terrain
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jul 2013

Even in the city of San Diego...it is very difficult terrain and they burn very hot

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
14. Thanks for the link.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jul 2013

I hadnt considered the terrain and what the super-high temps and dry conditions would do to it. Must be a lot like a tinderbox out there now. *sigh

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. I am willing to bet hot shot crews are on their way
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:19 PM
Jul 2013

I can. Time to mourn and bury the dead will be later.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. They got a fire to put out
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jul 2013

They got a town that they still need to try to protect, as much as there is.

Fire fighters will continue the fight. They will mourn the losses later.

It's just the way it is.

And yes, another hot shot crew from somewhere across the US..perhaps riverside or San Diego, were activated soon after. They are on the way.

It might sound cold, but this is interagency mutual aid... And I get it.

And they have, extreme fire behavior continues, with a new front.

They also have lost more structures.

http://wlfhotlist.com/threads/35136-AZ-A1S-Yarnell-Hill/page2

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
11. OK, kinda. Go back and read your Post #4. As posted, it was VERY cold...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jul 2013

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... as it was inclusive of ALL, including family, friends, neighbors and anyone and everyone
across the country who are mourning those heroes today.
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And you can BET their brothers-in-arms, while THEY don't have time to BURY their dead,
are most certainly mourning their loss today AND are being EXTRA careful in their work
today due to the sacrifice made by 19 others.
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They are not emotionless robots. They are human beings who are also supremely courageous
and will be going into those fires DESPITE those emotions..
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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
12. I will ask this question
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jul 2013

Because I know they are not robots. Have you done emergency response work? I have.

I know they are working this fire...that's the way it is. I know the hot shot crew sent from California got in vehicles and went. The hours it took, they had time to think, time to pray, time to reflect. Once they hit the ground...all that will go to the back of their heads.

I know those fire fighters on the line continue the fight this fire.

I know once the fire is out they will finally mourn. And mind you, some departments will hold wakes, even Irish wakes.

I know that like local fire fighters, they will erect monuments to the fallen.

But I also know that right now they are continuing the fight. It is not cold, it's what professionals do.

Those of us not in the middle of the fight are mourning already.

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
15. You keep amending your statements, Okey-dokey. I'm done here.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jul 2013

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And yes, I HAVE done emergency response work (albeit years ago), so don't try to pull THAT card on me.
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