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flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:31 AM Jul 2013

Update: CHINA added to asylum request list (wtf?) Snowden Slams Obama As Asylum List Revealed

Last edited Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:20 AM - Edit history (1)

WTF! Spy time. He has added China to the list! Desperation makes for strange bedfellows.. I believe he has "contacts" unsavory no doubt, in Hong Kong. Just a hunch based on his decision to go there and how FAST they managed to arrange a protest movement for him.

As the President of Ecuador Rafael Correa said today:

"He's a SPY. He's been spying for a long time."

This was after speaking with Joe Biden.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324436104578580640258516774.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


http://www.piratefm.co.uk/news/world-news/1011062/snowden-slams-obama-as-asylum-list-revealed/

The 19 countries asked to offer asylum to Edward Snowden have been revealed - as the whistleblower accused Barack Obama of "deception".

Requests have been handed to Austria, Bolivia, Brazil, China, Cuba, Finland, France, Germany, India, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Russia, Spain, Switzerland and Venezuela.

Delivered to an official at the Russian consulate at Sheremetyevo Airport in Moscow on Monday night, the pleas follow those previously made to Ecuador and Iceland.

The list emerged after Mr Snowden accused the US President of denying him a right to asylum and of putting political pressure on countries from which he has requested refuge.

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Update: CHINA added to asylum request list (wtf?) Snowden Slams Obama As Asylum List Revealed (Original Post) flamingdem Jul 2013 OP
Huh. So he wants Obama to offer him asylum. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #1
He can haz flamingdem Jul 2013 #3
What a fucking flake. He breaks the law in the US & the President Pirate Smile Jul 2013 #2
That's why they refer to him as flamingdem Jul 2013 #4
"Meanie" and a poopyhead. Why do folks keep forgetting that Obama's a poopyhead? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #7
My mistake, please forgive me. President Poopyhead it is. Pirate Smile Jul 2013 #12
No harm. No foul. We must do things properly. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #14
Mean State Dep't "unilaterally revoked" the passport of a US citizen with a Federal felony warrant alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #8
Like the U.S. Government - spying on foreign countries - with its spy agencies & stuff-SHOCKING! Pirate Smile Jul 2013 #16
and he hasn't even been convicted of anything yet arely staircase Jul 2013 #35
Oh, Lawd alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #5
he can always come here arely staircase Jul 2013 #6
Everyone of those places other than Russia flamingdem Jul 2013 #9
He has a bright future... Chan790 Jul 2013 #51
Everyone gets a slam at Obama. There are Impeachment ads here on DU Whisp Jul 2013 #10
Snowden's boringly ignorant. Cha Jul 2013 #11
OMG. Is this the reason he couldn't handle high school? Something's wrong with him. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #13
He's at Romper Room level but he thinks he's flamingdem Jul 2013 #15
Exactly. I think it's called "delusions of grandeur"? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #20
I just wonder what kind of nonsense Assange and GG have been and are telling him to stroke his ego. arely staircase Jul 2013 #37
It's just a shame that he's a pawn in their hatred of the US. Like it or not, he's notorious now. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #42
To be fair, I too pretty much thought high school sucked struggle4progress Jul 2013 #28
If there's one thing I love about college Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #41
Wonder what thought process went into that list treestar Jul 2013 #17
No countries that have upcoming trade agreements flamingdem Jul 2013 #18
good point. Ecuador didn't want to lose trade treestar Jul 2013 #23
Did you see my update? Today Pres. Correa said this: flamingdem Jul 2013 #24
That does raise more questions treestar Jul 2013 #25
Would the Chinese have agents that inept? Rstrstx Jul 2013 #36
Sure they would....remember Robert Hanssen? He was a weirdo. MADem Jul 2013 #54
yeah but finding that out would probably take twice the five minutes of research arely staircase Jul 2013 #40
He did not mention Antarctica. longship Jul 2013 #19
Or the North Pole flamingdem Jul 2013 #21
So Snowden might really be a spy flamingdem Jul 2013 #22
"No, Sal, we can't go to Wyoming..." jberryhill Jul 2013 #26
So, Snowden wants to go back to China.. if they'll change their Cha Jul 2013 #27
Isn't this cute? As Geegee says "Snowden had to ingratiate himself flamingdem Jul 2013 #30
Yeah, Snowblindness is right. Glad Joe Biden Cha Jul 2013 #33
Besides revealing exactly how much he cares about free societies arely staircase Jul 2013 #29
What a waste of airfare! Guess he was hoping to get to Iceland flamingdem Jul 2013 #31
Wish Obama went after Wall Street as much as he did Snowden Taft_Bathtub Jul 2013 #32
+1000 DeSwiss Jul 2013 #38
If there's one thing Pres. Obama is a master at, it's collecting small dollar donations. I know.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #43
That was actually a myth Taft_Bathtub Jul 2013 #44
On the last round they gave overwhelmingly to Romney nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #45
Bundlers didn't. Taft_Bathtub Jul 2013 #49
Steve Rhodes, proprietor of The Beachwood Reporter has a hard on for Democrats. He likes Greens. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #46
Sorry, large donors more than doubled small donors like you Taft_Bathtub Jul 2013 #48
What? No IRAN? No North Korea? MADem Jul 2013 #34
"He's a SPY. He's been spying for a long time." DeSwiss Jul 2013 #39
I'm surprised that he did not ask North Korea, Iran, or Syria. AlinPA Jul 2013 #47
north korea is the safest place imo BOG PERSON Jul 2013 #52
Hell yeah...they'd have a parade davidn3600 Jul 2013 #53
He would be a hero there. AlinPA Jul 2013 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author BOG PERSON Jul 2013 #56
any port in a storm n/t BOG PERSON Jul 2013 #50

Pirate Smile

(27,617 posts)
2. What a fucking flake. He breaks the law in the US & the President
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:40 AM
Jul 2013

is supposed to let him get asylum somewhere or else he's a big, bad meanie! Or something.

He has the maturity of a toddler.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
8. Mean State Dep't "unilaterally revoked" the passport of a US citizen with a Federal felony warrant
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:44 AM
Jul 2013

The NERVE of them!

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
35. and he hasn't even been convicted of anything yet
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:49 AM
Jul 2013

he's just on the lam, not convicted. whoever heard of revoking a fugitive's passport? - and yeah, unilaterally at that. I mean why weren't Ron Paul and Julian Assange allowed to vote on it?

we are living in a police state.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
9. Everyone of those places other than Russia
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:45 AM
Jul 2013

are kind of a vacation paradise for a foreigner.

I think Kazakstan should get him!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
10. Everyone gets a slam at Obama. There are Impeachment ads here on DU
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:45 AM
Jul 2013

What will you do if government comes for your guns?

Should Obama be impreached?

Second Amendment Foundation

http://www.saf.org/

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
37. I just wonder what kind of nonsense Assange and GG have been and are telling him to stroke his ego.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:58 AM
Jul 2013

I have the feeling this is a guy who has, for all his inexplicable security clearances, never really had to deal with many real world consequences. Until now.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,237 posts)
42. It's just a shame that he's a pawn in their hatred of the US. Like it or not, he's notorious now.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:13 PM
Jul 2013

And all the whining in the world for a return to his "normal" life cannot be blamed on Pres. Obama. He took his chances, he fled the country, and shared information with nations that we already don't have the best relationship with. He's gonna need to put on his big boy panties, and place the blame for his current status squarely on the people who manipulated him.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
41. If there's one thing I love about college
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:06 AM
Jul 2013

compared to high school, it's that there are no more cliques. With all the classes at different times and with a much larger student body, it is harder for there to be cliques and for a handful of the "cool" crowd to dominate the campus. Also, there's the fact that there are no guards blocking people from going home or going to the bathroom whenever they want to in college like at public schools.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Wonder what thought process went into that list
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:54 AM
Jul 2013

What were the criteria that spawned it?

Why not Australia, Canada, New Zealand? Why Finland and Norway but not Sweden and Denmark? Nicaragua but not Costa Rica or Panama? Oh and he forgot Ecuador.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
18. No countries that have upcoming trade agreements
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jul 2013

with the USA maybe?

Nicaragua I understand, they're left leaning.

Ecuador threw him under the bus today.

Australia, Canada, New Zealand.. US buddies and the Assange connection in Australia.

Basically, who knows but Assange and Sarah Hastings were probably up all night concocting the list.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
24. Did you see my update? Today Pres. Correa said this:
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:37 AM
Jul 2013

"Strictly speaking, Mr Snowden spied for some time". This was after a reporter asked if he'd like to meet Snowden and he said no, not particularly.

This came after the conversation with Joe Biden. I wonder if the administration knows more about Snowden. That's why he's extra desperate to get asylum.

Of course they have everyone wired so, lol, they should know what's up.

Correa was bending over backwards for him and angry with the USA, now uninterested in Snowden.

Really wondering what is known about Snowden and if he is a "spy" in the sense that he worked with others who are more insidious.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. That does raise more questions
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:38 AM
Jul 2013

or re-raises that question he may have been a Chinese agent all along.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
36. Would the Chinese have agents that inept?
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:50 AM
Jul 2013

Or is it a really grand conspiracy?

Reminds me of the old saying "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence"

MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. Sure they would....remember Robert Hanssen? He was a weirdo.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jul 2013

He spied for the Russkies for a couple of decades. Passed them all sorts of damaging information that negatively affected our security posture.

He also was a "fine upstanding member of the community," super religious, went to mass every single day of life, was a member of Opus Dei....and liked to be WATCHED. He wired up his house so his pals could watch him having sex (and his wife wasn't clued in on his little amusement). He was a busy boy on the internet when it came to sex chat. He also had a thing for strippers/prostitutes.

A real charmer. I imagine his family is just so proud of him, as he rots in jail...!

You take the ones you can get; you figure they might get burned eventually.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
40. yeah but finding that out would probably take twice the five minutes of research
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:03 AM
Jul 2013

that Googling "extradition treaties with US" and "layovers from Moscow" would have. And he didn't know those. Not to mention "do I get to keep my passport if I'm indicted.?"

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. He did not mention Antarctica.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jul 2013

Maybe they could provide him asylum. "I could be out fucking penguins with Jacques Cousteau".*


*Obscure cultural allusion: Miracle Mile

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
30. Isn't this cute? As Geegee says "Snowden had to ingratiate himself
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:06 AM
Jul 2013

with the Chinese". Oh yes he did!

He must mean Hong Kong but we know that's not much of a dividing line.

I really think he's thick as thieves with some hackers or shadowy figures
over there. Though we know he's incompetent that doesn't mean he
wasn't set up with people, maybe just anonymous or wikileaks hacker
sympathizers, but who knows exactly who they might be.

Anyone can put on a mask, would he notice if the difference, would he
care, that's the particular blindness dear Snowden suffers.

Snow blindness!

Joe Biden seems to have more goods on him. Now even Correa won't go
near Snowden. Considering we spy everywhere I'd say there's a good
chance we know more than is being told about this guy and his friends!

Cha

(297,510 posts)
33. Yeah, Snowblindness is right. Glad Joe Biden
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:34 AM
Jul 2013

got in on this.. Pres Obama issued this from Senegal..

Obama: No wheeling or dealing to extradite SnowdenRead more: Obama: No wheeling or dealing to extradite Snowden

DAKAR, Senegal—The United States won't be scrambling military jets or engaging in high-level diplomatic bartering to get National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden extradited to the U.S., President Barack Obama said Thursday.
Dismissing him as "a 29-year-old hacker," Obama sought to downplay the international chase for Snowden, lowering the temperature of an issue that has already raised tensions between the U.S. and uneasy partners Russia and China.

Obama said the damage to U.S. national security has already been done and his top focus now is making sure it can't happen again.

Obama said such matters are routinely dealt with at a law-enforcement level, calling Snowden's extradition "not exceptional from a legal perspective." He said the U.S. has a wide-ranging economic relationship with China that shouldn't be dwarfed by the hunt for one fugitive, and that the U.S. has had "useful conversations" with Moscow over efforts to return Snowden to the U.S. Putin has called Snowden a "free man" and has refused to turn him over to Washington.

http://www.denverpost.com/hochman/ci_23550372/obama-no-wheeling-or-dealing-extradite-snowden#ixzz2Xrm7cSAe

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
29. Besides revealing exactly how much he cares about free societies
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:03 AM
Jul 2013

it is another example of what a dumbass the guy is. Shouldn't he have done that when he was, you know, IN China?

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
31. What a waste of airfare! Guess he was hoping to get to Iceland
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:09 AM
Jul 2013

or Ecuador where he'd look like less of a Chinese spy.

He sure is looking suspicious, even if desperate it's a mistake
to ask for asylum in China. It was also a mistake to ask for it
in Russia.

Taft_Bathtub

(224 posts)
32. Wish Obama went after Wall Street as much as he did Snowden
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:33 AM
Jul 2013

Then again we all know who is going to pay for Obama's presidential library.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,237 posts)
43. If there's one thing Pres. Obama is a master at, it's collecting small dollar donations. I know....
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jul 2013

this, because I'm one of the millions of small donors. He won't need Wall St for his library, all he'll have to do is ask.

Taft_Bathtub

(224 posts)
44. That was actually a myth
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jul 2013

Obama was funded by bundlers, just like Bush and every other presidential candidate.

http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/politics/obamas_small_donor_myth.php

Big Money still runs politics, unfortunately, and is a predictor of how a president will act once in office. In Obama's case, it was giving the banks a get out of jail free card.

Taft_Bathtub

(224 posts)
49. Bundlers didn't.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jul 2013

If you mean Wall Street, sure. They were "offended" by Obama's speeches. Mitt Romney didn't even pretend he was their puppet.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,237 posts)
46. Steve Rhodes, proprietor of The Beachwood Reporter has a hard on for Democrats. He likes Greens.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jul 2013

I'd hardly call his work unbiased. He's a Naderite, and the Breitbart for the liberal left. And it is no myth that I donated my ass off, both in '08 & '12. Big money, as you call it, came from small donors. Change the record, that one's worn out.

Taft_Bathtub

(224 posts)
48. Sorry, large donors more than doubled small donors like you
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:12 PM
Jul 2013

You can donate all you want, it'd take tens of thousands of individuals like you donating $200 just to match one bundler.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/

Small Indiv Contrib $233,215,440
Large Indiv Contrib $489,660,089

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. What? No IRAN? No North Korea?
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:40 AM
Jul 2013

Eddie needs to step up his game.

I'll bet Pootie Poot will get back that arms dealer we have of his, after all this is over.

I can't believe that assclown thinks HE's the only one who can apply pressure to get his way.

Jerk. If Correa says he's a spy, Correa got a trade deal renewed!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
39. "He's a SPY. He's been spying for a long time."
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:01 AM
Jul 2013

Yes he was. Formerly in the employ of the US government.

- Apparently his puke reflexes aren't strong enough......

BOG PERSON

(2,916 posts)
52. north korea is the safest place imo
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jul 2013

and from north korea's pov it would be such a glorious diss to the americans

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
53. Hell yeah...they'd have a parade
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jul 2013

And Kim Jong Un would laugh his ass off at the US demanding extradition.

"Sure thing Obama...just as soon as you send back all our defectors!"

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