Today I received a call from the NRA, they wanted me to take a poll.

[DrewFlorida]

I told the caller; that the NRA and Wayne LaPierre could go to hell, that Wayne LaPierre was a dirty scumbag using the NRA as a shill for the gun industry and they all should be ashamed of themselves. I ended the conversation by telling the caller to F**k off, how's that for polling information!

I can't tell you how great it felt to tell those asshats exactly what I thought of them!

[Buzz Clik]

1. You're killing the messenger, but that's how it goes sometimes.

People are in need of work, and sometimes it's taking polls for shitty organizations. Venting on the poor person at the other end of the line is a bit harsh.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. What would you have said?

The message needs to be sent one way or another.

The person doing the polling is there to get those answers.

[Buzz Clik]

23. If you hate the NRA, tell them directly!

Don't scream obscenities at some poor soul working for a telemarketer and making minimum wage who just happened to be assigned NRA-detail for the day.

The person doing the polling is there to get those answers.

He or she has no way to process "fuck off" into their responses.

[madinmaryland]

26. Are you sure about that? The "telemarketer" may well be a paid volunteer of the NRA who is willing

to shill for the NRA and may actually believe the bullshit the NRA spews.

[Buzz Clik]

48. Scream at them, just in case...

Our parents raised us badly.

[madinmaryland]

51. Where did I say be rude to them. There is nothing wrong with telling the paid shills calling from

the NRA what you think of the NRA. Unless of course you are a paid shill for the NRA??

[Buzz Clik]

52. Read the OP. If you think that kind of behavior is acceptable, we strongly agree.

But, let's not pretend that the OP's author should anything but rude behavior -- justified or not.

[madinmaryland]

53. I'm confused. I thought you were condemning that behavior and now you agree with it?

The only thing directed to the caller was being told to "fuck off". Everything else was spot on, vulgarities included. If someone is shilling for a cause the they damn well better expect to be told to fuck off and get an earful from the callee.

[Buzz Clik]

54. yeah.

we're done.

[Mojorabbit]

70. When my MS progressed to the point that I could not work as a nurse

The Social Security administration told me I could do telemarketing from my home and denied me benefits. I always remember that when I am talking to them.
Luckily my Doctor put up enough documentation that I was spared that. I don't think I could have handled the abuse they get.

[DrewFlorida]

9. Enough with the assumption that I "Killed the Messenger"!

I simply gave the messenger my opinion of the NRA and Wayne LaPierre. I never once attacked or insulted the caller.
You reading into this what you want, not what is said.

[Lizzie Poppet]

16. "I never once attacked or insulted the caller."

"I ended the conversation by telling the caller to F**k off..."


So which is it?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

43. Maybe he meant, "never once" = more than once.

[Lizzie Poppet]

44. Oh, good point!

Hadn't thought of that angle!

[Buzz Clik]

24. ..

I simply gave the messenger my opinion of the NRA and Wayne LaPierre. I never once attacked or insulted the caller.

Beg to differ, sport.

I ended the conversation by telling the caller to F**k off

That is an attack. Pure and simple.

[rdharma]

28. Maybe it's time that "messenger" got another job working for someone else.

I have no sympathy for "paid messengers"!

[Buzz Clik]

50. YOU get to decide that?

There are two sides to every issue.

The author of the OP needs to show some class and some hints of reasonable upbringing -- as do those who agree with the OP.

[rdharma]

55. Yes! I get to tell the "paid messenger" my opinion.

Whether he/she wants to hear it or not!

After all,...... it's "an opinion poll"....... RIGHT?

[Buzz Clik]

57. That was not what you said. At all.

But who the hell cares. I do not.

[rdharma]

59. Oh? That's EXACTLY what I said!

And evidently...... YOU care!

[CokeMachine]

61. You have now been introduced to that poster.

Good luck!!

[Buzz Clik]

62. Met this one before elsewhere.

Piece of work for sure.

[CokeMachine]

69. You know then!!

I believe he is a returnee that was PPR'd for racist comments.

Take Care,

[99Forever]

64. Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhaha.

Funny stuff!

You're a million laughs!


Oh btw...


... the NRA, any one the works for them, anyone who supports, and each and every one of it's members can all go straight to hell.

[Buzz Clik]

68. Some hourly temp working for a telemarketer.

Pure. Genius.

btw -- you only need a simple "bwahaha." When you push too hard, you look like a noob. Relax a little.

[DonP]

3. Wow, you screamed at a minimum wage telemarketer, how courageous of you

I'm sure that worker bee will get right on the phone to Wayne directly to pass along your suggestions.

But never mind that, you took it all out on some person trying to do a thankless job, I'm glad it made you feel better and that's all that matters, right?

[DrewFlorida]

5. A bit presumptuous to suggest that I screamed at anyone.

I gave the message accurately to a representative of the NRA, the person's financial repudiation is not my business.
It is that person's job specifically to pass along the information, but hey, if you think that person will not do their job, maybe that says more about you than me.

[DonP]

20. You didn't answer any questions - your words went nowhere

Their job is not to pass along "feedback", it's to complete a certain number of qualified surveys a day.

In the survey business that lists you as an "unresponsive".

Nothing you said went any further than that individual person's headset and now here you are bragging and looking for some kind of affirmation.

But, if it made you feel all big and superior, great for you and your ego. But you just sounded more like a bully to me.

In the meantime, I believe the NRA website is public access, so you can always go there and tell Wayne what you think. At least you stand a better chance of getting through than picking on some telemarketer.

[rdharma]

30. "Pass along feedback"

Looks like that "paid messenger" got some "feedback" to pass along!

[ZombieHorde]

37. "I ended the conversation by telling the caller to F**k off"

Maybe you didn't scream, but that is still rude.

[madinmaryland]

29. Maybe the "minimum wage telemarketer" is more of a paid volunteer of the NRA.

A shill for the NRA. Isn't that the way most political organizations are?

[Jenoch]

4. If you are opposed to the NRA as you

seem to be it would have been more productive to answer the questions. Your responses would have had more impact on the poll rather than chewing out the person making the calls.

Remember the guy that went through the drive through at Chic-fil-A and and abused the employee last August? he certainly should have made his displeasure about the company's policies in a more productive manner. He probably would not have been fired had he done so.

[DrewFlorida]

7. You are assuming things, you know what happens when you assume something!

I never once chewed out the caller, I simply told the person what I thought of the NRA and Wayne La Pierre.

[Jenoch]

10. I didn't assume anything.

"I ended the conversation by telling the caller to F**k off, how's that for polling information! "

[DrewFlorida]

12. Excuse me, I told the person, The NRA could F off. My mistake in typing.

[Jenoch]

13. I still think if you would have answered the poll

in the negative to every answer you would have accomplished more. It probably would not have been as satisfying however.

[DrewFlorida]

15. Actually, had I had the time available to answer the poll questions I may have done that.

But I didn't, and I thought my comments made my feelings about the NRA known quite accurately although lacking nuance.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

46. I believe what you said the first time.

The second statement seems to be the result of an after-thought.

[CokeMachine]

60. Maybe you could edit the post to make that clear?

I know someone that can show you how to do it.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

14. Well, that and

"I told the caller; that the NRA and Wayne LaPierre could go to hell, that Wayne LaPierre was a dirty scumbag using the NRA as a shill for the gun industry and they all should be ashamed of themselves."

Plus

"I can't tell you how great it felt to tell those asshats exactly what I thought of them!

In some parts of the country other than Florida, or in some parts of the country other the area of Florida where the poster is from, this would be considered rude.

[DrewFlorida]

17. That's rude? What's rude is telling the families of 20 children and 6 teachers...

that the answer to the problem is more guns.
By all standards my comments were very conservative (pun intended).

[AnotherMcIntosh]

21. See. I knew that there was an exception in Florida or the area of Florida where you are.

[Recursion]

6. So you kept pro-gun-control answers out of their poll? That will help

[AnotherMcIntosh]

8. A Google search shows that the NRA polls its own members.

Maybe they also poll other persons, but I haven't seen that yet from the Google search. I'm not an NRA member and they have never telephoned me.

On one web page which reprinted a post from the NRA referring to polling its own members, it said that other organizations unconnected with the NRA sometimes purport to take polls that reflect the views of NRA members but do so without having access to NRA membership lists.
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/03/dont-believe-everything-you-read-regarding-so-called-nra-member-surveys/#axzz2XvCWwLSE

They also said:

"It is already a federal felony to be engaged in the business of buying and selling firearms without a federal dealer’s license. It is already a crime for a federally licensed dealer to sell a gun without doing a background check, and it is already a federal felony to sell, trade, give, lend, rent or transfer a gun to a person you know or should know is not legally allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm."

If you are not an NRA member, do you have any idea as to why the actual NRA organization would be polling you?

[DrewFlorida]

11. I am not an NRA member, I have never owned nor wanted to own a firearm.

[MrSlayer]

18. Did your answers have anything to do with the question?

Far be it from me to deny someone self-catharsis but it seems like a wasted opportunity to give good answers to questions they care about.

[truebluegreen]

31. Do you think the NRA would actually pay any attention to responses

they didn't like?

As if they were some sort of honest, responsible organization instead of what they are, a PAC tending to the needs of the firearms industry?

Hah.

[MrSlayer]

47. Then why bother conducting a poll at all?

Why not say whatever you want?

They might not care what your opinion is at the end of the day but I'm sure they're interested in how (dis)connected they are.

[HockeyMom]

19. Thank you

As the wife of an NRA gun owner, NOBODY ever asks us what we think; non-gun owning spouse of gun owners. They assume we are in agreement. Hello? NO WAY.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

22. The NRA seems to poll its own members. If you want to give your opinion contrary to your spouse,

why not just sign up for your own membership?

Michael Moore did.

[HockeyMom]

27. Interesting point

lol Maybe I will.

[truebluegreen]

34. They may poll their own members

but they don't listen to them.

If they did, they would support background checks.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

35. Don't they support background checks as much as the ACLU?

[truebluegreen]

39. I don't know the figures for the ACLU

but two recent polls of NRA members put support at 75% and 84% for background checks...

ETA: the NRA Leadership? Not so much.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

41. It's easy to understand the figures for the ACLU. The ACLU is against that.

[truebluegreen]

42. ???

[AnotherMcIntosh]

45. Yes, the ACLU is in favor of civil liberties and privacy. Imagine that.

You were unaware of the ACLU's position?

See, e.g., http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/04/15/aclu-toomey-manchin-bill-would-make-national-gun-registry-less-likely/

"Earlier this month, conservatives widely cited a Daily Caller interview with a top privacy lobbyist at the American Civil Liberties Union, in which he claimed he had “serious concerns” about the proposal to expand background checks. Opponents of the proposal — from the NRA to Senator Rand Paul – widely pointed to the ACLU’s concerns to buttress their argument that the proposal would be overly intrusive into people’s privacy and would create a government gun database.

"But in an interview with me today, the same ACLU privacy lobbyist tells me those concerns have been resolved in the new compromise proposal put forth by Pat Toomey and Joe Manchin. Not only that, he said the language in the compromise proposal creates stronger prohibitions against any national gun registry than exist under current law.

Whether there are those who will call members of the ACLU "commie pinkos" or "gun nuts," it will produce the same result.

[truebluegreen]

63. I am totally shocked by it,

as any card-carrying member like myself would be.

My "???" response was intended to show that the NRA and the ACLU are two entirely different entities, with very little in common. One defends our rights, the other promotes the interests of gun manufacturers in defiance of their own membership's wishes. To which do you belong?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

65. ACLU

[truebluegreen]

66. Glad to hear it.

[Xyzse]

25. I don't know...

I'd probably at least mention that Wayne LaPierre was a Draft Dodger who cited mental instability as his reason.
Meaning, he isn't mentally stable enough to have a gun to begin with.

[rdharma]

32. Like Ted Nugent! nt

[madinmaryland]

33. That's funny! Do you have a link to that? Sounds like a Ted Nugent wannabe!!

[Xyzse]

36. Research is still in progress in Snopes

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/lapierre.asp

http://motleynews.net/2013/02/06/was-nra-leader-wayne-lapierre-deferred-from-vietnam-due-to-a-nervous-disorder/
So, it is currently undetermined.

Still, quite fun to think about.

[rdharma]

56. Oh! It's true alright!

And the former President of the NRA's son spent ten years in prison for trying to kill a guy with his gun during a road rage incident!

And it just keeps getting better!

[AnotherMcIntosh]

38. Or that he was a Democrat who caused George H. W. Bush to resign his NRA life membership when

he was outraged by a letter written by LaPierre.

Prior to joining the NRA, wasn't LaPierre a Democrat who worked as a legislative aide to a Democratic Virginia delegate, Vic Thomas?

Wasn't it the passage of the AWB which propelled LaPierre to the forefront of the NRA and caused him to switch parties?

[Xyzse]

67. Not really sure

I just think the guy is shifty.

[lpbk2713]

40. "Hey I got a poll right here."

"And you can shove it right up your ass."



BWAHAHAHA .... I wish they would call me.

[aikoaiko]

49. A proud moment for you for sure.

[rdharma]

58. The OP should be thanked for giving this NRA "sock puppet" a dose of reality and truth!