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Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:48 AM Jul 2013

Just need to rant quickly here.

My mother contracted Hepatitis C from a blood transfusion back in the 1980's. She has acute liver damage, but has been managing it.

A while back she had a minor cardiac incident, and her doctors prescribed baby aspirin to help avoid another one.

Yesterday she got a letter from the pharmacy. It seems that due to a screw-up they've been giving her high doses of Tylenol instead of her baby aspirin.

Tylenol, even in normal doses, can be deadly to someone with liver damages. And they've been pumping her full of it like there's no tomorrow.

Sorry to interrupt the political bloodshed on here with something like this, but I just needed to rant to someone.

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Just need to rant quickly here. (Original Post) Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 OP
That is pretty shitty. Sorry. Hope she recovers. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #1
If the pharmacy hadn't fessed up Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #3
That sucks n2doc Jul 2013 #2
So sorry for your Mom, hope there are no long term issues. Fla Dem Jul 2013 #4
She had them prescribed Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #7
That happened to my mom, as well. DLevine Jul 2013 #5
That's terrible Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #6
I agree, they need a lawyer. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #10
I wonder how many people who die Mariana Jul 2013 #11
If you took too many Loritabs or Norco, I think LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #12
I'd get a lawyer. Chan790 Jul 2013 #8
She has one. Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #9
I wonder what chain. freedom fighter jh Jul 2013 #13
I don't really want to mention the chain here. Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #15
was it this? Skittles Jul 2013 #20
Wow. emmadoggy Jul 2013 #14
Question matt819 Jul 2013 #16
See reply #7. Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #18
That's terrible. So sorry for your mom. winter is coming Jul 2013 #17
Wow, sorry for your Mom mitchtv Jul 2013 #19
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. That is pretty shitty. Sorry. Hope she recovers.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jul 2013

Hepc is pretty horrible, but there has been a lot of progress on treatment. All boomers should get tested.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
3. If the pharmacy hadn't fessed up
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:54 AM
Jul 2013

they might have gotten away with it, too. No one would have questioned why her liver panels were getting worse, assuming the disease had just progressed further.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. That sucks
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:52 AM
Jul 2013

Hope she didn't get any damage. It seems amazing that the pharma could make that big a mistake.


Fla Dem

(23,879 posts)
4. So sorry for your Mom, hope there are no long term issues.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jul 2013

I take baby asprin ( low dose), but they are otc, don't need to have a pharmacist to dispense them.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
7. She had them prescribed
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jul 2013

because they they would be covered under her insurance and be cheaper than OTC.

DLevine

(1,788 posts)
5. That happened to my mom, as well.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jul 2013

I don't know the details, but she was telling me about this on the phone a few days ago. This was evidently not a pharmacy screw-up. It must have happened before it got to the pharmacy.

Cirque du So-What

(26,027 posts)
6. That's terrible
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jul 2013

I don't consider myself excessively litigious, but if this happened in my family, I would be seeking legal counsel.

Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention. Acetaminophen is indeed bad news for anyone with liver damage - a fact that often gets glossed over when Big Pharma pushes pills and downplays dangers inherent to medications which can be obtained over-the-counter. Many people have concluded that OTC preparations are not 'real' medicine, so it's alright to take larger doses over a longer-than-recommended period of time. In the case of acetaminophen, that can cause liver damage - even if none was present beforehand.

LuvNewcastle

(16,867 posts)
10. I agree, they need a lawyer.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:22 AM
Jul 2013

Everybody should be careful with acetaminophen. I would think that a person who has liver damage shouldn't be taking it at all; I know I wouldn't risk it if I had hep C. Some of our OTC drugs are more dangerous than some prescription drugs, when taken in high doses. For a pharmacy to confuse one drug for another, as in this case, can be a deadly mistake and they need to answer for that. I would definitely change pharmacies.

Mariana

(14,863 posts)
11. I wonder how many people who die
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jul 2013

from overdose of prescription painkillers are actually killed by acetominophen toxicity, rather than by the narcotics. Many prescription painkillers contain high doses of acetominophen combined with a rather small amount of narcotic.

LuvNewcastle

(16,867 posts)
12. If you took too many Loritabs or Norco, I think
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jul 2013

the acet. poisoning would be worse than the hydrocodone. I'm not a pharmacist, but I have a lot of experience with taking painkillers. I think the main reason doctors prescribe Loritabs and other medicines like it is because they're relatively easy to take someone off of, and most people only take pain meds for short periods. People who take pain meds long term do better with morphine pills or something similar.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
8. I'd get a lawyer.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:06 AM
Jul 2013

Not because there's the likelihood of a payout here from lawsuit but because you're entitled to a far fuller explanation of how the hell this happens than you'll ever get without one and more than a carefully-worded form letter. Also, people always bust on personal injury lawyers because of those huge judgements they win, but those judgements go a long way to insuring those things never happen again. This needs to not happen again and the person responsible needs to be accountable.

No problem with the ranting...I'd be furious if I were you.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
9. She has one.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:09 AM
Jul 2013

That was the first thing she did, call the lawyer.

This is a major national chain pharmacy we're talking about. (Yeah, like there are any mom and pop drug stores left.) If this mistake could happen in one store, then it could happen in every store across the country. They need to review their policies and procedures pronto.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
13. I wonder what chain.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:30 PM
Jul 2013

Are its initials R A?

Some years ago, I was on anti-depressants. Early in the course of the drug, I caught a cold, couldn't sleep because of the coughing. Careful person that I am, when I got my prescription filled I asked the Rite Aid pharmacist if I could take Robitussin while on the antidepressant. No problem, he told me.

I did. The next morning I could not get out of bed. I just kept rolling over, resolving to get up but always going back to sleep until finally I managed it mid-morning.

At my next check-in, the psychiatrist told me it was the drug combination that had kept me in bed; it could easily have killed me.

My mother was a pharmacist, a good one who often came home from her hospital job with stories of bad combinations of drugs that doctors had prescribed and she had stopped. I felt her roll over in her grave.

I'm sorry about your mom's experience. From the little I know about Tylenol and liver issues, if it was going to harm her I think you would know pretty soon. So it sounds like she dodged a bullet. Like I did. Maybe I should have sued. Maybe that would have made them more careful.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
15. I don't really want to mention the chain here.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jul 2013

But it's one of the big three in the northeast. And not the one you hinted at.

I went to college in a town near where she lives. She fell in love with it and eventually moved up there. 20 years ago there were four mom and pop pharmacies in that town, and I knew the people who ran two of them. Your pharmacist used to know everything about you, and could dispense good advice.

Since then Wal-Mart opened outside town and the Big Three squeezed out the little drugstores. They're all gone. Same thing happened here in my home town.

emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
14. Wow.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jul 2013

There is no excuse for that. I've worked in a pharmacy. I don't know how on earth they would have done that.

I sincerely hope that your mom doesn't end up with more serious damage because of this horrendous mistake. I hope you can get some answers.




matt819

(10,749 posts)
16. Question
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jul 2013

Why is this a prescription issue?

Low dose aspirin is available OTC, generic brand, costs little and everything is transparent - you have control of what you buy and use. I've had pharmacists tell me that a particular product is available OTC and to buy it that way instead of via an Rx.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
18. See reply #7.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:54 PM
Jul 2013

Cheaper the way it worked out between Medicare and whatever her current private plan is.

mitchtv

(17,718 posts)
19. Wow, sorry for your Mom
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013

having had a liver failure/transplant , I am used to the retrictions and knew someone with a tylenol caused transplant. All best wishes and I hope she improves quickly

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