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The little Spanish Bushbot Ambassador who offered Pres. Morales *coffee* as he violated his rights
Last edited Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:37 AM - Edit history (1)
For God's sake, find your fucking ignore and trash thread buttons if you're so sick of my posts about how we fucked up. It's funny how those who complain the loudest can't find the tools to make DU just the little bubble they need. Use a MAP if you can't find your ignore and trash thread buttons.Meet Alberto Carnero Fernández, the coffee boy
He doesn't like to be in the news or to be photographed.
Bush–Aznar memo
The Bush–Aznar memo is reportedly a documentation of a February 22, 2003 conversation in Crawford, Texas between US president George W. Bush, Prime Minister of Spain José María Aznar, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Daniel Fried, Alberto Carnero, and Javier Rupérez, the Spanish ambassador to the U.S. British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi participated by telephone. Rupérez transcribed the meeting's details which El País, a Madrid daily newspaper, published on September 26, 2007.[1] The conversation focuses on the efforts of the US, UK, and Spain to get a second resolution passed by the United Nations Security Council. This "second resolution" would have followed Resolution 1441. Supporters of the resolution also referred to it as the "eighteenth resolution" in reference to the 17 UN resolutions that Iraq had failed to comply with.
The memo provided insight into the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. It revealed that Saddam Hussein had offered to step down and leave Iraq if he were allowed to keep $1 billion. Some have suggested that this indicates that the war was avoidable. According to the account in El País, the memo also gives details on how Bush tried to coerce members of the United Nations Security Council into supporting US policy: he tells Aznar how he can cut Angola's foreign aid from the Millennium Challenge Account and how he can torpedo the free trade agreement with Chile (awaiting ratification in the United States Senate at the time) if the two countries did not back US policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush%E2%80%93Aznar_memo
The memo provided insight into the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. It revealed that Saddam Hussein had offered to step down and leave Iraq if he were allowed to keep $1 billion. Some have suggested that this indicates that the war was avoidable. According to the account in El País, the memo also gives details on how Bush tried to coerce members of the United Nations Security Council into supporting US policy: he tells Aznar how he can cut Angola's foreign aid from the Millennium Challenge Account and how he can torpedo the free trade agreement with Chile (awaiting ratification in the United States Senate at the time) if the two countries did not back US policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush%E2%80%93Aznar_memo
(Video in Spanish, no subtitles, the quote below is at minute 5:15 where President Morales states what happened after we were told "we could not enter French territory, we were very surprised and decided to make an emergency landing in Vienna Austria"
On July 4, President Evo Morales related how Ambassador Alberto Carnero tried to commandeer his plane to check whether the former U.S. agent Edward Snowden was on the flight.
When Morales's plane landed on Austrian soil emergency, "suddenly appears the Spanish Ambassador to Vienna, Austria (Alberto Carnero) with two individuals from the Embassy of Spain. The first (the ambassador) tells me that we need to check the presidential airplane. I replied: 'Why do you need to check?'. (He answers me) "I've been in constant contact with the vice Vice-Chancellor of Spain". I replied that 'I do not know this gentlemen, I heard on the news reports that he is American agent'.
I told him that 'we are very respectful of international conventions, international agreements. Therefore I am not transporting anyone to Bolivia' I replied to his insinuations that I was transporting Snowden. Then, when I said that, he replied "I will go ask my Vice-Chancellor". He gets up, and leaves his little office where we were at the airport in Vienna, Austria. He returned and said, "No, we have an agreement among "Foreign Ministers to check your airplane". I told him that 'his chancellor had never informed me of this'. I said: 'You can NOT check. If you do not believe me, you are telling me that President Evo is a liar'. I said that '(our) presidents do not lie, and you know, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors cosmic law is now constitutionalized: Ama Sua (do not steal), Ama Llulla (do not lie) and Ama Quella (do not be idle), I not going to lie to anyone.'
(Minute 7:45) The ambassador comes back from asking his Vice Chancellor, and repeats, "you have to invite us into your plane to have a cup of coffee, to have a little coffee so we can check". I said, 'You're treating me like a criminal, only criminals can be checked, and I'm no criminal. And you are not going to inspect the Presidential airplane'. I mean, brothers and sisters, in this time, for them to control us, for them to check our plane ... I could not understand the colonialist mentality'. 'We had no defense (resistance) whatsoever, it was just me and the pilots. If you want to check, you can do so but only by force, we can offer no resistance. It's clear, how could we resist a military or police operation, but the only way to do so is to do it by force. He got scared and did not dare to check by force and then told me he's going to call his Vice-Chancellor again. He came back and said "Would you speak with my Vice-Chancellor?". I said 'no I have nothing to discuss with the Vice-Chancellor. If you want, call your president (Mariano Rajoy) and not his Vice-Chancellor'. And then finally he tells me, after speaking with (his Vice-Chancellor) another time, he tells me at 9 in the morning, " I can't tell you yet if you can leave or not, because we need talk to our friends." Who are these friends of Spain? Well, they have the right to speak their friends but I asked 'who are these friends? Portugal? France? Italy?' He did not say anything. I wonder who these *friends* are. Then, at 9 and 30, or 10 in the morning, he returned and said to me, a little worried, scared and nervous 'You are free to go" and stopped insisting to check (the plane).
"If I had accepted the inspection, we would have been out of there in an hour or two after landing, but we would not give pleasure to Spain, even more so to the the United States, to inspect our plane so we could leave quickly. We have dignity, sovereignty and we are proud of our country, of the Patria Grande and we will never submit to these forms of blackmail sisters and brothers.
He then goes on to how President Rafael Correa told the US to take its preferential trade deal and stuff it (cheers). and how Latin America is on the rise while the US is on the decline. They don't need this he says. Then he mentions how the US had the nerve to deliver an extradition request for Edward Snowden after he landed in Bolivia. It's all to intimidate. "Our real sin is to have an indigenous President, and to be anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist. That's our sin sisters and brothers. They can't accept that we can govern better than the neoliberals. They can't understand that. What I understood is that they used their agents to intimidate us, to shut us up, to badger, to chastise Latin America and the Caribbean . They do not want this liberation of the people led by anti-capitalist presidents, governments, parties"
I can't go on lol. You get the idea. Besides, I just wanted to point out Alberto Carnero, then I got into the whole speech because it's the first time I listened to it but it took over an hour just to translate/transcribe less than half of his speech.
If our media was worth anything at all, that speech should already have been translated and published so we can understand what's going on in the world, and how the world reacts to our actions. Instead we get a vapid bubble.
I thought you might like to hear a few more details of what happened that night. It's the same global 1% running things. This also explains why they dragged Bush and the Lord of Bats himself, Dick Darth Vader Cheney, out to defend this illegal surveillance.
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and good morning to you. can't offer you coffee, alas.
Can you believe their nerve?
This story, that part of it, has offended me from day one. Reporters stated that little jerk never made it past the front door of the plane which confirms what Morales is saying here about the condescending, let's have a cup of coffee, master to servant attitude.
Thanks my dear conscientious and humanity-loving Cali 
It takes a long time to transcribe/translate these but as Edward Snowden put it,
"This country is worth dying for"
I have so many other more selfish things to do with my time, such as getting my fading eyes checked, or taking my lovely dogs out for walks, or dying my graying hair but this, THIS, is TOO important.
Thank you for appreciating and being part of our collective efforts.
in a very dark and ever lengthening tunnel of fear, deceit and outright LIES.
I feel a disturbance in the Force.
Response to Catherina (Original post)
to have someone continue to push back against all the obfuscation that goes on around here.
Well done, Catherina. Remind me never to play hand grenades with you.
There's a big wooden slab in my backyard with a painted bullseye and when I start feeling stressed, I throw knives. Sometimes I put names or pictures up as the target instead. It's surprising how good your aim gets in such a short amount of time lol.
I'm working on another translation right now.
Speaking Truth to power....
And as a long time DUer who posts infrequently but knows the forum well: you are doing what needs to be done....you go girl....