Bush Praises Obama's Policies

[kpete]

Bush Praises Obama's Policies

Could it be the beginning of a new era of inter-party love? Former President George W. Bush was caught praising current President Obama's approach to immigration reform in an interview with ABC's The Week Sunday. "It's very important to fix a broken system," he said, "to treat people with respect and have confidence in our capacity to assimilate people." He's also a fan of Obama's decision to hold onto counterterrorism policies put in place during his own administration. Can the love last?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2013/07/07/bush-praises-obama-s-policies.html

i think i am feeling politically sick,
is there a cure out there?
kp

[MrSlayer]

1. He probably loves his economic policies too.

Since they are nearly identical. And all the Republican appointees. And the Heritage Foundation's health care plan. And the idea of chained CPI. He probably isn't a fan of the gay friendly stuff though, so there's that.

[RC]

26. +10

There is a bit too many similarities between the two administrations, isn't there?

[MrSlayer]

42. Too many similarities between the last five.

Zombie Reagan is still haunting us. His policies have never gone away.

[madrchsod]

2. bush is probably drunk and feeling sorry for himself.

[KittyWampus]

3. This could be an epic thread.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

4. bushy is try to clean up the public memory of him.

Riding the coat tails of President Obama to do it. Bushy is just hoping we all forgot about what he did and hope that praising the President may help.

But IMO, that isn't going to happen. He can "popularity suck" all he wants, it is just not going to happen.

[TeeYiYi]

5. That's nice. ..nt

TYY

[PoliticAverse]

6. "He's also a fan of Obama's decision to hold onto counterterrorism policies put in place

during his own administration."

[KittyWampus]

8. This is kind of a win/win for Republicans. They can act all "we love teh hispanix" AND piss off

leftwingers with the counterterrorism policies dig at Obama.

I am absolutely certain we will see more of this.

[treestar]

7. He's wrong about the counterterrorism policies

As for immigration, that's one of the few things Duyba was OK on.

[sabrina 1]

13. I guess so is Cheney, Fleischer, King, Boehner and the rest of them.

An endorsement from the 'Decider' himself will hopefully cause the President to rethink his policies although he did say last week that he has 'kept some of Bush's policies'.

Well it's all one big happy family, Babs stating that Clinton is a 'member of the Bush family' and now some love for Obama also from the Decider himself.

They must laugh at all of us fighting amongst each other defending them against the other 'team'. As Carlin said 'It's a big club and we ain't in it'. Well if nothing else the past decade has opened the eyes of the 'little people' to some unpleasant realities.

[Rstrstx]

15. Doubt it

Maybe some token gestures that appear to reign in the NSA a little but I can't really see a president in the near future doing a 180 on what's currently being done - nobody wants another 9/11 on their watch and whether or not the NSA is keeping us safe from that (have my doubts) it would be used by political opponents to skewer them if they gutted the program

[sabrina 1]

17. Then the question has to be put to the American people. How many freedoms are they

willing to give up to try avoid another terrorist attack, telling them the truth about the odds of such a thing happening to them, as opposed to say, the odds of dying because they don't have access to Health Care.

We can live in fear in a huge oppressive surveillance state, which is doing nothing to protect us, we all know where the money is going, or we can live free and take our chances of dying maybe a little sooner than we are all going to do anyhow.

'It's better die on your feet than to live on your knees'.

Everyone dies, and every day people die from far more imminent threats than a terrorist attack. An educated population, such as Norway's eg, would never fall for this kind of propaganda.

[HardTimes99]

21. In Joseph Heller's 'Catch 22,' Nately is informed that it is better

to 'live on one's feet, than die on one's knees':

'If you live.' The old man shook his head, wearing, for a moment, the same touchy, meditating
frown of the fretful and disapproving old woman. 'They are going to kill you if you don't watch out,
and I can see now that you are not going to watch out. Why don't you use some sense and try to be
more like me? You might live to be a hundred and seven, too.'
'Because it's better to die on one's feet than live on one's knees,' Nately retorted with triumphant
and lofty conviction. 'I guess you've heard that saying before.'
'Yes, I certainly have,' mused the treacherous old man, smiling again. 'But I'm afraid you have it
backward. It is better to live on one's feet than die on one's knees. That is the way the saying goes.'
'Are you sure?' Nately asked with sober confusion. 'It seems to make more sense my way.'
'No, it makes more sense my way. Ask your friends.'
Nately turned to ask his friends and discovered they had gone.

[dgauss]

41. That exchange is one of many in Catch 22 that made an impression on me.

The kind of thing you read in a book that will pop up in your mind, seemingly out of the blue, many years later.

Time to read Catch 22 again.

[treestar]

29. That would be childish

Just because Bush is against something I'm for it and vice versa? That's silly. I'd rather have an adult for President.

[sabrina 1]

32. It isn't about you, or Bush or Obama, it is about this country. Bush policies have

been disastrous for this country. I would love to have a Government that had the guts to prosecute war criminals and Wall St. Criminals. I thought we had accomplished that back in 2008 but five years later and we still have the criminals roaming free, now vindicated and boasting about it instead of being prosectued.

Maybe some day. It did take nearly 50 for Latin Americans to begin the process of prosecuting their war criminals. Maybe we'll get to it a little sooner.

[treestar]

33. So now it's not about Bush?

Because just before, it was, and it was wrong to have any agreement with Bush on anything, even if Bush declared water wet (not to say Bush could figure that out).

Prosecuting heads of state is not that easy - Bush was bad but he wasn't Hitler or Stalin. He got his IWR from the Congress and there's no absolute proof he didn't believe in WMD. You are just unbelievable in your utter lack of common sense. And vengeance. We won in 2008 for going forward with hope, not dwelling on revenge. The POTUS had to end those war (also not fast enough for you) and that was way more important than wasting time getting revenge on Bush.

[sabrina 1]

38. Psssst, 'it's about Bush's POLICIES! Try to ignore the word bush and focus on the word

'POLICIES'. We went after Nixon, he resigned rather than face the inevitable impeachment.

But that was when we had Democrats and a few Republicans with guts.

Notice how many times you use the pronoun 'you'? Someone told me once to pay attention to people who overuse pronouns such as 'you' when involved in discussions. What that generally means is that the person is unable to defend their position so they personally attack those who are stating facts they cannot argue against.

What you are saying is frightening. That this country is unable to apply the law to those who break it, that our laws mean nothng. So why do we have them? Why not just be honest and say 'the law does not apply to those in power in America'. Stop with the pretense that we are some kind of democracy, because if we cannot prosecute criminals anymore, than that is where we are.

It was NOT Congress that said 'we are not going to focus on war criminals, we are going to move forward'. That statement came from the man we are told 'has no power, that it is Congress's fault'. He did not need to say anything, because it IS Congress' job to deal with rogue presidents. He CHOSE to make that statement and apparently he had the power to make it happen.

Why is it so difficult to face FACTS? And try to not make it about ME, I already know how fascinating I am, but we are not talking about ME right now.

[allin99]

9. i read that as "capacity to assassinate people", lol. made sense. lol

[arely staircase]

10. hitler liked volkwagen bugs

hippies like Volkswagen bugs

therefore, hitler was a hippie?

[leeroysphitz]

16. I knew there was a connection. n/t

[kenny blankenship]

11. The cure is to stick your fingers down your throat and get it all out.

The nasty taste of betrayal will linger for years, but at least your head clears and you know which way is up again.

Take your medicine, DU.

[HooptieWagon]

12. Bush is happy he has a legacy for his 3rd and 4th terms nt

[leeroysphitz]

14. +1

[sabrina 1]

18. Not only was he not prosecuted, he's been vindicated now.

[Jasana]

19. +1

I join you in your feeling of

[HooptieWagon]

20. I guess he wasn't prosecuted b/c Obama needed someone to praise his policies.

[sabrina 1]

25. Could be, because he was never going to get approval for Bush policies from those

who voted for him in order to end them.

[HooptieWagon]

31. That is true.

We (and I'm speaking for progressives in general) never expected Obama to be a beacon of liberalism, but sure didn't expect him to double down on Bush's most offensive policies. Its been a disappointment, and I certainly won't trust a DLC/Third Way Democrat again.

[sabrina 1]

36. That is the lesson learned, to never support a Third Way candidate again, no matter

how much propaganda is hurled around about being 'pragmatic'. We had to see it in action to know how disastrous it would be. Now at least we can move on and not waste any more time even arguing about Third Way candidates, and come up some way to rid our Party of this Third Party that has attached itself to it.

[Cha]

22. So what if bush praises President Obama?..

Is that suppose to make me hate the President just because bush was a pretender and a maniac in office?

Well it doesn't.

[sabrina 1]

27. Why would you ask such a ridiculous question? It's news, period, take it any you want.

And no one hates the President, they hate Bush's policies, but you know that I'm sure.

If you like Bush's policies, that's your choice, I hated them when he was in the WH and I hate them when he is not in the WH.

[treestar]

30. Bush's policies on immigration were not all that bad

Not the usual right wing xenophobe claptrap. He even spoke Spanish, though "haltingly."'

By your logic I have to approve the rest of his policies then?

[sabrina 1]

35. True, that was one area where he got into trouble with his base. But his motives were

business oriented, he proposed giving SS to workers who had never paid into it, that blew a few minds among his supporters. His Corporate Buddies are FOR cheap labor, the base didn't get what they were trying to do.

By my logic you are supposed to stand by your principles, give credit where and if it is due, which I did back then to Bush just fyi, no matter who is in power. Such as giving Paul credit, as many elected Democrats have, for being consistent in his stand against our disastrous policies, which I did, back then and now.

[LittleBlue]

23. Jesus Christ

[whatchamacallit]

24. Our next president will be a neocon too

The coup continues...

[progressoid]

28. Woohoo!

[Zorra]

34. That's a kick in the gut if anything is. nt

[mick063]

37. A ringing endorsement from W.

Why would I expect anything different?

The original OP article asks "but can it last?"

Of course it will last. It is Bush's blueprint for Christ's sake.

We are so cozy now. All united and such.

Let's sing around the campfire.

[Fumesucker]

39. ...

[forestpath]

40. Two peas in a pod.