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Poverty is now, not only mockable, but considered off topic on a democratic forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023204564
Good to know
LWolf
(46,179 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Instead, it may have been deemed to not have enough content to really understand the gist of your post (though I realize you said you were tired and would return).
Honestly, that's my biggest complaint with probably 25% of the posts in GD these days. It's too twitter-like.
I wanted to reply here because poverty is a subject I and others do try to introduce here more and more (and it is more well received than in years past because of the state of things now), and share my opinion about why it could have been locked.
I don't think it was against a discussion of poverty.
My two cents.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Poverty is not a hot topic. Those threads sink to the bottom just like threads on edcuation or threads about how the 1% control this country. These are topics most democrats would just rather sweep under the rug.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)I just doubt that it was viewed as being an OP about poverty, then deemed off topic and thus locked.
magellan
(13,257 posts)Cease and desist order.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)If it doesn't involve Snowden, nobody gives a crap.
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Orrex
(63,225 posts)In my view, the phrase "hard scrapple" evokes an inedibly firm breakfast food, regardless of etymological justifications. When I read your OP, I had no idea what you were talking about.
Do you have reason to think that it was locked because it was about poverty? I don't see anything to indicate that clearly. However, locking an apparently random 20-word post with no context seems reasonable to me.
Still, I'd rather read 100 posts like that rather than a single post with a subject line of "Utterly amazing" and then nothing but an embedded YouTube video in the body of the post.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)But I understand why someone would hear it as hard-scrapple.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)you'd likely have if you depended upon farming it.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I'm referring to having to scrape (or depend upon scraps) to survive. My parents both understood it. One from the Midwest and one from the South.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Both oral and in print. That is the reason I said " if you understand". I wanted a discussion with those who understood the term.
I think one did.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,245 posts)or your wealthy connections and invites to the White House. They will let that crap stay.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I would but then I would be lying.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)Definition of HARDSCRABBLE
1
a : being or relating to a place of barren or barely arable soil <a hardscrabble farm> <hardscrabble prairies>
b : getting a meager living from poor soil <a hardscrabble farmer>
2
: marked by poverty <a hardscrabble cotton town> <a hardscrabble childhood>
hardscrapple: The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary.
scrap·ple
: a seasoned mixture of ground meat (as pork) and cornmeal set in a mold and served sliced and fried
Word salad is better for you than scrapple, but I doubt anything got banned because it discussed poverty.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)FSogol
(45,529 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)It was just a reference to show that others are familiar with the term.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)and I'll let this go. Sigh
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0311260/literature
FSogol
(45,529 posts)Ham and Bud were two silent film actors.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)meant it as a joke, also.
So, okay, extreme poverty is a joke and to be mocked.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)I said you were wrong about a word and you showed that others used it wrong too. You posted a link to a silent film comedy using the same term. Maybe if you want to discuss poverty, you should start a thread that actually discusses poverty and not just pretend that people are laughing at it.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I am sure I am not the only one who had no fucking clue what you were talking about.
Frankly it looked like PUI
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)I would not have assumed it was a thread about poverty in America based on your post title nor by the comments within your post.
So....perhaps you should elaborate your concerns about poverty. I seriously doubt that would be locked as unrelated to our general discussions on DU.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Where a nice portion of DU craps on a guy for not wanting to take a 30% pay cut... and where someone actually told me that $11 an hour is a decent wage.
This place is off the rails.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I've seen so many flippant responses to posts, suggesting such things as:
It's easy, just upgrade your car
It's simple, pay for his ID
Just get a better job
and my favorite - If you don't like it, move.
Before everyone asks for links - I'm paraphrasing
Anyway, thanks. You understand.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)livable wage, social justice, and excoriating the corps. I think you're just seeing what you want to see.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Maybe it's you who sees what you want to see.
To see any liberal defending $11 an hour as a livable wage is disgusting to me.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)commenting that DU is no more "off the rails" than they were 10 years ago. This kind of spirited debate and disagreement has been going on forever. It was most noticeable to me in primary season of 2004, but it is always here. It ebbs and flows.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)in that thread.
But separately, try to catch Frontline tonight - Bill Moyers is doing a documentary about two families in Milwaukee who are struggling with poverty. Apparently, it's an update from documentaries they did on the same families from 20 years ago (which, in turn, was updated 10 years ago).
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)It has a clear meaning to me, hence my use of it. I thought others might recognize it. Those were the people I wanted a conversation with.
It has to do with "extreme poverty" not related to farming.
Yes, Bill Moyers gets it.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Did you see the thread about a minimum guaranteed income? I thought that was an interesting idea? Probably won't go anywhere. Both parties have been bought by the 1%, but we the people must demand this kind of policy making. If they don't, vote them out. Let's stop listening to campaign promises and start paying attention to voting records. If they don't have a good voting record they should be voted out.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)but as you can see, most here aren't interested.
Yes, I saw that thread and you're right, it probably won't go anywhere.
I will continue to help those I can with my very limited resources and capabilities. But I worry about where they will turn when I'm gone.
And now, if you will kindly excuse me, I have supper to prepare.
Thank you again l_a_h. You do have a liberal heart (and a most kind one too).