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You smoke pot? Sorry we can't hire you... (Original Post) Playinghardball Jul 2013 OP
True story! Just Saying Jul 2013 #1
I'm in Washington state AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #22
way cool.... think Jul 2013 #32
Who would survive twelve shots and six beers every weekend? Initech Jul 2013 #2
You obviously don't know many musicians... Ellipsis Jul 2013 #3
Well hey to quote Clint Eastwood in "Magnum Force" Initech Jul 2013 #5
Or you haven't seen "Archer". Initech Jul 2013 #23
Or people who work in customer service (with the public)... 4_TN_TITANS Jul 2013 #35
Guilty. :) Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #12
In a weekend? Don't make me laugh... n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #14
Don't get me wrong, I could drink that standing on my head. Initech Jul 2013 #16
Oh I bet... I just couldn't do it EVERY weekend... so you do have a point. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #17
Hell, I drank more than that every day in my drinking days. Lil Missy Jul 2013 #26
I use to. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #33
Some places won't hire you if you smoke tobacco The Straight Story Jul 2013 #4
One of our clients, in my old job, had a huge container full of ice and beer cans darkangel218 Jul 2013 #8
Yeah. Go figure. Boozers...we love ya! You the party man! Pot? What are you.... Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #6
completely unfair and hypocritical. time for this to change. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #7
It's hard to be an authoritarian shithead when you smoke marijuana. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #9
So very very true. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #28
I like beer. never smoked pot. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #10
WAAAAAYYYYYY more toxic. Pot never destroyed anybody's kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #11
Then i dont get it why is not being federally legalized already. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #13
Cannabis is illegal because we need to support the kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #24
I "see" and i was aware in the past. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #25
Big Pharma doesn't care for it--it cuts into their bottom line. nt MADem Jul 2013 #27
Alcohol is the consumate negotiating tool mick063 Jul 2013 #15
Last time I checked pot was illegal and booze wasn't badtoworse Jul 2013 #18
I worked for a large unionized trucking company for many years. The DOT mandates random drug test, demosincebirth Jul 2013 #19
I was told if I smoked cigarettes, like tobacco cigarettes, I wouldn't be hired. Cleita Jul 2013 #20
Most companies that provide insurance also test for alcohol bhikkhu Jul 2013 #21
Don't really understand the need Shivering Jemmy Jul 2013 #29
another true story... orleans Jul 2013 #30
Guess who had the best pot in my home town? leveymg Jul 2013 #31
That attitude is what pipi_k Jul 2013 #34
What?!! avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #36

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
1. True story!
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jul 2013

I'm hoping legalization in 2 states is the step towards nationwide. And not medical use-recreational use.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
22. I'm in Washington state
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jul 2013

I work for the state. When the law went into effect December 6th, the state put out a policy statement. Do not bring pot to work, or be stoned at work. That's their whole policy.

How cool is that?

Was driving down a street the other saturday and saw three middle aged black guys pulling a motor out of a car, passing around a blunt and talking to a cop who was laughing with them on the sidewalk. How flipping cool is that?

Initech

(108,783 posts)
2. Who would survive twelve shots and six beers every weekend?
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jul 2013

I'm a big guy and I do drink quite a bit, but even that much would probably kill me! Or at least render me incapacitated.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
5. Well hey to quote Clint Eastwood in "Magnum Force"
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:25 AM - Edit history (1)

"A man's got to know his limitations."


 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
12. Guilty. :)
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:24 PM
Jul 2013

Takes me close to two liters of Vodka or a 24-crate of almost any beer to start touching me. I don't drink much, thanks to the effects on my wallet.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
17. Oh I bet... I just couldn't do it EVERY weekend... so you do have a point.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:49 PM
Jul 2013

To be honest; if I could smoke weed I'd probably drink little or nothing except the occasional beer. I have a CDL though and am subject to random piss tests by DOT because of it.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
26. Hell, I drank more than that every day in my drinking days.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:06 AM
Jul 2013

But yes, I would end up incapacitated too.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
33. I use to.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:17 AM
Jul 2013

Back in the day I was one of those people you could just HATE!

That would be a Sat. night for me. Would still be able to walk out of the bar, and wake up early to eat a full breakfast. Not once did I have a hangover.

That was till I turned 33 and my body said I was too old to play like that.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
4. Some places won't hire you if you smoke tobacco
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jul 2013

but those same companies probably have a lot of people that drink, so that is ok.

Usually the people who are against something and want the govt/companies to step in are people who don't do those things and want to shove their morality down the throats of others. Sort of like fundies who like to control the choices others make.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
8. One of our clients, in my old job, had a huge container full of ice and beer cans
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:15 PM
Jul 2013

Right by the garage entrance. They were a big company, 2 story building. They also had one of the fridges in the cafeteria full of beer :p

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. Yeah. Go figure. Boozers...we love ya! You the party man! Pot? What are you....
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jul 2013

a wild, freaky, dope fiend, hippie wannabe? Probably a tree huggin' liberal, too!

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
9. It's hard to be an authoritarian shithead when you smoke marijuana.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:15 PM
Jul 2013

That's why corporate America is afraid of pot.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
10. I like beer. never smoked pot.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jul 2013

But if I can have a beer on my days off, then so can someone smoke pot if that's what they like.

From what I heard alcohol is more toxic than pot.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
11. WAAAAAYYYYYY more toxic. Pot never destroyed anybody's
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jul 2013

brain OR liver. Never even did damage to them.

Pot aka cannabis is a safe and effective medicine for many ills. It has provided me near-miraculous relief from chronic pain and persistent insomnia. A nightly brownie is all it takes, too.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
13. Then i dont get it why is not being federally legalized already.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jul 2013

What the fuck is wrong with us?? I know in most European countries lots of people smoke pot and nothing happens to them. Even if its illegal , no one goes to jail.
I personally haven't tried it because I dont smoke and I wasn't going to start just to try pot. But yah, its pretty weird and sick that marijuana is illegal.

I'm not surprised tho, if Mittens had gotten into office , alot more things would have been illegalized.

Grrrrrrrr!!!!

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
24. Cannabis is illegal because we need to support the
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:31 AM
Jul 2013

prison-industrial complex and the criminal "justice" system. Wars are waged because we need to support the military-industrial complex.

Now do you see?

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
15. Alcohol is the consumate negotiating tool
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jul 2013

Business runs on it.

The kids you knew in college that drank every weekend?

Business majors.


Just joking.....kinda....maybe not


 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
18. Last time I checked pot was illegal and booze wasn't
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:53 PM
Jul 2013

Companies generally do not hire people with criminal records or those who have a higher than average chance of having one in the future. That is their call.

demosincebirth

(12,826 posts)
19. I worked for a large unionized trucking company for many years. The DOT mandates random drug test,
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:00 AM
Jul 2013

at least once a year. Any kind of illegal drug and they fire you. Most drugs are out of your system withing 48 hours, except, you got it, marijuana. At the very least it stays in your system three weeks. I know of one guy who attended a weekend party where a lot of pot was smoked. He swears he didn't indulge in smoking pot, just some beers,. I believed him. He was picked at random for a drug test four days later...he didn't pass it. He got fired that same day. It took the union four weeks of haggling to reinstate him

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
20. I was told if I smoked cigarettes, like tobacco cigarettes, I wouldn't be hired.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:07 AM
Jul 2013

This was back in 1982. I felt it was none of their business whether I smoked or not. I didn't smoke, but my husband did and I felt like they were trying to own me. If they didn't want me smoking while on the job fine, but they had no business telling me what to do when on my own time. I would feel the same way about pot. None of their business. Don't do it on the job or before I go to work, but on my time none of their business. I just don't see how companies get away with demanding that their employees don't do activities when they are not at work and that don't interfere with their job performance.

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
21. Most companies that provide insurance also test for alcohol
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jul 2013

One dealership I worked at in the 90's had to fire the whole detail department and the lead mechanic after a random drug test. Alcohol mostly, and a bit of cocaine. Another big chain I worked for also had random tests. You'd get fired for having alcohol in your system just as fast as you'd get fired for pot.

and, on edit, smoking is far more common an issue. Nobody, even in my 35% nicotine addicted area, wants to hire smokers anymore.

Shivering Jemmy

(900 posts)
29. Don't really understand the need
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:36 AM
Jul 2013

to play with one's brain chemistry. Alcohol, marijuana... all the same to me. But so many people use both that I couldn't imagine using it as a hiring discriminator though.

orleans

(36,927 posts)
30. another true story...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:53 AM
Jul 2013

i worked for a fairly small company in the late 1970s--around 35 or 40 people--and the owner allowed discrete one-hitters. he also had a stash of alcohol in his office for after hours socializing. employees were happy, business was successful, and we took it all for granted. god, those were the days!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
31. Guess who had the best pot in my home town?
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:11 AM
Jul 2013

The cops. One of them was an ex-MP in Vietnam, and he had a home movie party one night - up on the screen were images of an entire Military Police unit at Ton Sun Nut Airport smiling like cats, each of them holding a duffel bag of reddish colored buds that they had just offloaded from an Air America C-130.

Same thing was going on at another end of the pipeline in Germany until about 1989.

Those were the days.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
34. That attitude is what
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 09:37 AM
Jul 2013

ultimately killed my brother two years ago.

He was never much of a drinker. His thing was pot.

The company he worked for started testing for it and firing people who smoked. So he gave it up and turned to alcohol instead.

It took less than five years for the booze to kill him two years ago, at the age of 41, from kidney and liver failure.

It totally stunned me that he could die that soon...I've known people who have been drinking for decades who didn't die that quickly.

Well, I found out that his gastric bypass surgery exacerbated the effects of alcohol metabolism, which is why it didn't take decades for the booze to kill him.

So yeah...it's totally insane that alcohol, which can kill, is allowed, whereas pot, which, to my knowledge, has never done the same thing, is outlawed.

I've known so many people who were killed, in some manner, by alcohol...none who were killed by pot.

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