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Blue Bike

(65 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:00 PM Jul 2013

African American journalist: "Where's the outrage about black-on-black crime?"

Crystal Wright
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 11 July 2013 09.50 EDT
Link

Excerpt:

"As the George Zimmerman murder trial heads towards its conclusion this week, race has taken center stage. Since last year when Zimmerman allegedly killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense, the mainstream media joined by so called black activists injected a racially charged narrative into the case. You know "racist" white man profiles and kills black kid.

Sadly, this trial wouldn't be receiving wall-to-wall national media coverage if Zimmerman was black. That's what we should be talking about.

Startling statistics reveal that between 1980-2008, African-Americans were six times more likely than whites to be victims of gun violence and seven times more likely to kill with guns than whites, according to the Justice Department. African-Americans represent a mere 13% of the US population yet more than 50% of federal prisoners are black. You can claim racial bias in the judicial system, but that doesn't explain all of it.

Why aren't so-called black leaders outraged and marching over the recent shooting rampage in Chicago. During the 4 July holiday weekend, including the Wednesday leading up to it, 62 people were wounded by gun violence in Chicago and 12 others killed. The holiday shooting spree raised Chicago's homicide tally to 200 for the year. Last year about 500 people were killed, and most of those killing and being killed in Chicago are black. According to the Chicago Tribune, "blacks make up about 33% of the city's population, they accounted for nearly 78% of the homicide victims through the first six months of 2012"."





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African American journalist: "Where's the outrage about black-on-black crime?" (Original Post) Blue Bike Jul 2013 OP
Obama is accused of talking down to his own people when he brings it up JI7 Jul 2013 #1
Is the media outraged? Blue Bike Jul 2013 #4
it wouldn't not have recieved coverage if Zimmerman was charged from the beginning JI7 Jul 2013 #7
Remember the screams when he DARED to say that if he'd had a son Number23 Jul 2013 #43
things like this expose people's bigotry more JI7 Jul 2013 #44
"african american journalist" JI7 Jul 2013 #2
I think you nailed it. nt pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #9
Well, she's also a Republican voting, Black-Conservative type MrScorpio Jul 2013 #3
In other words, kinda like Alan West Hugabear Jul 2013 #14
Well, obviously the OP doesn't care MrScorpio Jul 2013 #15
I think you're wrong. The OP cares cali Jul 2013 #45
That is so true... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #46
The Op knows. The OP seems to be having some fun at this. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #16
I wonder what the OP has to say about this in their own defense MrScorpio Jul 2013 #17
The Op will not likely care. I think someone is trying to get to 100 posts. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #20
"if the OP knows this is a right wing " JI7 Jul 2013 #18
+1 Hugabear Jul 2013 #21
Well, to be fair, at the time of posting, that info may not have been known to the OP MrScorpio Jul 2013 #24
And to be fair--to us-...- pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #34
That most certainly indicates a pattern of problematic behavior MrScorpio Jul 2013 #35
A pattern of intentional disruption gets MIRT's attention pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #36
As it should be nt MrScorpio Jul 2013 #38
I alerted a Mirt Member and it will be discussed. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #41
I alerted a Mirt Member and it will be discussed. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #39
How many major media outlets are owned by minorities (not counting Saudi sheiks)? Scuba Jul 2013 #5
so, where is the outrage for blacks and whites, latinos and asians being slaughtered by gun owners? msongs Jul 2013 #6
There is plenty of out-rage ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #8
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #11
MSM..Misanthropic Sycophant Monsters, don't see the drama necessary . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #10
Perhaps, if this journalist spent less time doing research to support republican talking points, Deuce Jul 2013 #12
Just part of MSM exodus to the Darkside,,, orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #48
Why are you posting something from a right winger on this site? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #13
It sounds like, "Why are you bothered by George Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin gollygee Jul 2013 #19
Nope. Just Saying Jul 2013 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #22
Link to a conservative hit piece and then run. There's a sufrommich Jul 2013 #23
DU infested with Zimmerman republicans Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #25
MIRT will be busy! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #28
MIRT knows this one well RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #47
I had wondered why he wasn't gone yet. Ilsa Jul 2013 #50
Thanks! His MO seemed familiar. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #53
I just sent an alert on this and It came back that there was a jury already that kept it hrmjustin Jul 2013 #26
I sent an alert too and haven't heard anything back. I cant sufrommich Jul 2013 #29
The hosts are discussing it. Will take time. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #30
Wow, this thread lost a rec MrScorpio Jul 2013 #27
so, some black uncle tom type uses this tragedy as an opportunity to bash quinnox Jul 2013 #31
Umm...read just about any AA magazine, listen to a number of AA speakers... Behind the Aegis Jul 2013 #32
True colors showing Just Saying Jul 2013 #33
Well, when you are healed down by slavery for 200 years then let free into a society Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #40
this article is bullshit madrchsod Jul 2013 #42
been wanting to use this for awhile. KG Jul 2013 #49
For my first post of the day, allow me to: bunnies Jul 2013 #51
6 recs JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #52

JI7

(93,614 posts)
1. Obama is accused of talking down to his own people when he brings it up
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jul 2013

this is the BS im hearing from right wing assholes everywhere including many whod on't consider themselves to be right wingers.

why do people act like there isn't outrage over it. it's the same with the N word. how people bring up some rappers who use it as a way to defend some racist who uses it.

there IS outrage over black on black crime. people ARE trying to do something about it.

do people not have a right to be upset about other things ?

 

Blue Bike

(65 posts)
4. Is the media outraged?
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:13 PM
Jul 2013

Remember, the journalist said, "Sadly, this trial wouldn't be receiving wall-to-wall national media coverage if Zimmerman was black. That's what we should be talking about. "

JI7

(93,614 posts)
7. it wouldn't not have recieved coverage if Zimmerman was charged from the beginning
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jul 2013

the reason it got coverage was because the fucking racist cops did nothing about this. that's why there was media attention.

if zimmerman was black and especially if Trayvon was white, the shooter would have been charged and probably already convicted .

Number23

(24,544 posts)
43. Remember the screams when he DARED to say that if he'd had a son
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jul 2013

it would look like Trayvon? SHOCKINGLY, even some here had a problem with it.

Michelle Obama went to the funeral of a gorgeous young black girl that was killed in Chicago just a few weeks after the inauguration. The right screamed that she wouldn't have done it had the girl been white.

JI7

(93,614 posts)
44. things like this expose people's bigotry more
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:31 AM
Jul 2013

than if they do things like use the N word .

there are people who will never use the N word, they will condemn Paula Deen (and she deserves it). they don't think they are racist, but they will say something like "both sides should have acted different" concerning the zimmerman case. would they say the same if all the facts were the same but trayvon was white ?

the people bringing up Chicago right now aren't just the teabagger birther types. on DU i have seen many posts about riots if Zimmerman is acquitted.


JI7

(93,614 posts)
2. "african american journalist"
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jul 2013

is that supposed to be the "some of my best friends are black" defense in posting that ?

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
3. Well, she's also a Republican voting, Black-Conservative type
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

So, it's quite reasonable to assume that she's writing this as merely a way to condemn the mostly Democratic-voting Civil Rights movement.

It's not like we CAN'T see what she's up to.


Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
14. In other words, kinda like Alan West
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:47 PM
Jul 2013

Wonder if the OP knows this is a right wing source, or if the OP even cares

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
45. I think you're wrong. The OP cares
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:28 AM
Jul 2013

freepers post about black on black crime constantly.

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
46. That is so true...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:39 AM
Jul 2013

Perhaps it's their way of informing us about their own obsessions.

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
17. I wonder what the OP has to say about this in their own defense
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jul 2013

This looks like something to be concerned about here.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
20. The Op will not likely care. I think someone is trying to get to 100 posts.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:53 PM
Jul 2013

Mirt should be alerted.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
21. +1
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

Methinks you're right. Let's see how long this one lasts.

If there's one thing I've noticed, right wing trolls on DU can't help themselves, eventually their racism shows though

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
24. Well, to be fair, at the time of posting, that info may not have been known to the OP
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

But any reading of the replies in their own thread should be sufficient enough to correct that oversight

Any further continuance by the OP after notification can quite reasonably be regarded as problematic.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
34. And to be fair--to us-...-
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jul 2013

The same poster also put up this gem...

My prediction of the Zimmerman verdict: Not guilty of anything
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023227887



MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
35. That most certainly indicates a pattern of problematic behavior
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:16 PM
Jul 2013

I believe that there conditions in DU's TOS that addresses something like this.

msongs

(73,750 posts)
6. so, where is the outrage for blacks and whites, latinos and asians being slaughtered by gun owners?
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jul 2013
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. There is plenty of out-rage ...
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jul 2013

about Black on Black crime/violence ... in the Black community.

Deuce

(960 posts)
12. Perhaps, if this journalist spent less time doing research to support republican talking points,
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jul 2013

she would see the outrage.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
48. Just part of MSM exodus to the Darkside,,,
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:33 AM
Jul 2013

Since Shrub and the 24hr a day commercials for WMD'S, and the fear distribution that duped us in to bailing out Villians, so they could carry on with their imprisonment of the country program, all in the name of the ultimate goal profit, which is the only thing protected by the Constitution these days .

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
13. Why are you posting something from a right winger on this site?
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jul 2013

I believe that is against the rules of the site you agreed to.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
19. It sounds like, "Why are you bothered by George Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jul 2013

when black people are so much worse than George Zimmerman."

I hope I'm misunderstanding that.

Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

RandiFan1290

(6,710 posts)
47. MIRT knows this one well
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:27 AM
Jul 2013

They have been deleting him for weeks. He just makes a new email address and returns to make more zippy threads.

ETA: Here are a few on the screen names they've used in the past couple of days

friendlyFRIEND
Hooray for Pepe
Ron Quixote
Richard Patrick

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
26. I just sent an alert on this and It came back that there was a jury already that kept it
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:03 PM
Jul 2013

3-3. I clicked the TOS button.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
29. I sent an alert too and haven't heard anything back. I cant
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

believe it passed a jury. Sad.

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
27. Wow, this thread lost a rec
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

Other than the OP's own, I wonder if it'll lose the other three.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
31. so, some black uncle tom type uses this tragedy as an opportunity to bash
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:07 PM
Jul 2013

the black community. Big surprise. I'm sure Clarence Thomas would heartily approve.

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
32. Umm...read just about any AA magazine, listen to a number of AA speakers...
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jul 2013

...and you will hear PLENTY of outrage about black-on-black crime. In cities with large AA populations, you will even see discussions in MSM. While living in New Orleans, there were plenty of stories about black-on-black crimes and ways to prevent it. I don't understand what point this author is trying to make.

ETA: Ooops...didn't know this was a "conservative" author, so I am guessing I know what the point is.

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
33. True colors showing
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jul 2013

This is the same argument gun nuts use. You know, like that we don't really care about little kids getting their heads blown off because Sandy Hook gets coverage while kids killed in Chicago don't.

Two problems with this theory.

1. I have an endless amount of compassion. I can care both about Travon's murder AND black on black crime just like I can want gun legislation to keep guns from criminals and the insane to protect kids in CT AND Chicago.

2. The people that post this crap couldn't care less about either group.

Enjoy your stay.

Quixote1818

(31,155 posts)
40. Well, when you are healed down by slavery for 200 years then let free into a society
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:20 PM
Jul 2013

that is prejudice of you then you get a huge proportion of blacks in poverty. The vicious cycle sets in and it ain't easy to break. It may take another 100 years or more for blacks to be truly equal to whites on a financial level. When that occurs you won't have any more black on black crime than white on white crime. Get it?

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
42. this article is bullshit
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jul 2013

anyone who follows what is happening in chicago knows crystal does`t know what the fuck she is talking about.

KG

(28,795 posts)
49. been wanting to use this for awhile.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:37 AM
Jul 2013


been almost a year since I had a post hidden. sorry I been slackin'

JustAnotherGen

(38,050 posts)
52. 6 recs
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:30 AM
Jul 2013

As of 7:28 AM for a guy/gal with 65 posts since joining on July 8th and all are pretty much paid posts by the Georgie defense team.


I'll take my licks for posting the first sentence - but advanced search is DU's friend.


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