Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

no_hypocrisy

(54,597 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:19 AM Feb 2021

How will state and federal prosecutors prevent MAGAts, Trumpists, etc. from being

empaneled on a jury? Attorneys are given a certain allotment of disqualifications. All you need is one prospective juror to lie about being impartial with no paper trail, and you've got a hung jury. If anything, you'd see MAGAts crawling out of the wall like cockroaches to serve on such a jury. They'd vote like the 43 republican senators yesterday: Let our boy go!

Second part: Even with a conviction, wouldn't Trump's appeals lawyers argue that the jury was unfairly prejudiced against him? (Dershowitz's forte is appeals.)

7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
How will state and federal prosecutors prevent MAGAts, Trumpists, etc. from being (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Feb 2021 OP
I think they need to search social media history (and yes, I know that would be highly controversial hlthe2b Feb 2021 #1
Where I'm located (red red red)... ret5hd Feb 2021 #2
Well said. SharonClark Feb 2021 #5
This is a REAL issue Cosmocat Feb 2021 #3
That's been true for decades, but it's not considered a big deal when only black and brown people StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #7
In Manhattan, no problem. C_U_L8R Feb 2021 #4
Lawyers are very good at screening jurors StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #6

ret5hd

(22,357 posts)
2. Where I'm located (red red red)...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:33 AM
Feb 2021

when you are called for jury duty, there is no hint anywhere of what the case is going to be...maybe DUI, maybe burglary, but probably a civil case...all those hundreds of thousands of utterly boring mind-numbing cases that "those you speak of" DO NOT CARE ABOUT...especially for $10/day or so, minus parking fees.

It will be the same as always..."those you speak of" will, in the same numbers they do today and last week and last year, do everything they can to get out of jury duty. Hell, a good percentage of those in the riots didn't even get out of bed to vote.

Yes, voire dire will be especially important, as always. But I don't really see things changing that much...maybe I'm blind though.

Cosmocat

(15,375 posts)
3. This is a REAL issue
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:36 AM
Feb 2021

It isn't only the rabid, in your face MAGA hat wearing types.

There are millions of people who are much more subdued and subtle about their victimhood as whites who could easily find their way on to a jury.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. That's been true for decades, but it's not considered a big deal when only black and brown people
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 09:38 AM
Feb 2021

are on trial ...

C_U_L8R

(49,135 posts)
4. In Manhattan, no problem.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:43 AM
Feb 2021

There's no Trump love here. Hasn't been for decades. Except Staten Island. That speaks for itself.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. Lawyers are very good at screening jurors
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 09:36 AM
Feb 2021

And in high profile cases, they use juror consultants, background investigators, etc. And they don't just look at paper trails. They use demography, psychology and all sorts of other things to assist. It's not foolproof, but it's not that easy for a a seriously devoted MAGAT to slip past them. And once people are on juries, it's often surprising how fair they try to be. Even in Manafort's case, a diehard Trump supporter voted to convict.

And many of these cases would likely be brought in New York City and Washington, DC where the population is largely minority and progressive.

As for challenging jurors on appeal, that's very difficult unless there is some obvious juror misconduct.

I'm less worried about Trump getting a jury biased in his favor than I am about the thousands of black and brown men and women who get locked up every day because the justice system treats them like they don't matter.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»How will state and federa...