Don't you just love President Jimmy Carter?

[Playinghardball]

[think]

1. Still my favorite president!

[airplaneman]

13. Most progressive, ahead of his time.

FDR was my favorite president.
Carter is probably #2 for me.
Sadly he did not get a second term.
-Airplane

[FiveGoodMen]

16. Mine, too.

I think he always tried to do the right thing.

I wouldn't say that about any other president in my lifetime.

[winter is coming]

36. Yup. History will judge him kindly, and rightly so. n/t

[kardonb]

98. carter

this county is NOT ! based on christian " values "!!!

[Hissyspit]

112. I like him to, but unless anyone proves that Carter said it first, then

this is not a quote from him. It's John Fugelsang: http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/john-fugelsang-viewpoint-presents-the-revoltingly-fake-christian-of-the-week

[Triana]

2. YES.

He's a great man, IMO. One of the best.

[Boomerproud]

3. With the exception of the late George McGovern, I can't think of a national figure/politician

who is owed a bigger, more heartfelt apology for the way he was/is treated than Jimmy Carter.

[amuse bouche]

4. He needs to yell that louder

Such a good guy

[90-percent]

5. Yet another good Dem brought down by Republican Treason

Reagan's administration negotiated directly with the Iranian hostage takers to delay the release of their American hostages UNTIL AFTER THE 1980 ELECTION!

Nixon did the same thing with the North Vietnamese, prolonging the war instead of letting LBJ's secret negotiations end it in 1968. LBJ knew about the treason and it's on tape LBJ spoke to Everett Dirkson about it. He kept it a secret because America might go berserk knowing their recently elected President Nixon committed treason.

And add Iran-Contra to the list, too.

All of the above is prove-able and not hypothetical. Factual and all that.

-90% Jimmy

[avaistheone1]

22. I hope this lesson is in our children's history books.

Everyone should know how President Carter was cheated out of his re-election to the presidency.
Carter was leading in the polls until this treasonous act by the Reaganites.

k&r

[dothemath]

56. Excellent examples .................

of republican treason. There are many, many more and they are growing at an exponential rate.

This country needs a two or more political party system, but the republican party sure as shooting is not one of them. When good governance is paramount, count on the repubs to obstruct and destroy the very things that gave us the reputation of being a pretty good place to live. Not anymore. 2014 is the next chance to find out if voters have been paying attention to something besides faux nooz, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and Lord how many others if their ilk.

I count as a blessing that I am a few short years from 80 years old and won't have to put up with their willingness to destroy this country much longer. I mourn the fact that my family, children and grandchildren are heading for a third world future and I can't help them.

[madokie]

63. I'm 65 and I'm right with you

[Enthusiast]

58. Thank you, 90% Jimmy! Thanks for the prove-able facts.

The things you cited were acts of treason. But nothing was done. That is why the treason continues to this day.

People still talk about President Carter as being weak and indecisive. But he was only portrayed as being weak and indecisive by a complicit media, a media influenced by a G H W Bush CIA.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

[adirondacker]

6. It's been a lifetime of downhill slog since his defeat. nt

[NCTraveler]

7. My extremely conservative father...

says that President Carter is the only honest President there has been in his lifetime. He never voted for Carter, but has a great amount of respect for his integrity.

I was lucky enough to meet President Carter and watch him give a sermon last year.

[byeya]

8. I don't love President Jimmy Carter; I love ex-President Jimmy Carter.

As president he oversaw the first significant deregulation of vital services and filled his cabinent with very conservative people. He was not a good president and got primaried(I got to vote for Jesse Jackson again).
He was an honest decent man even when president but his policies were not what the country needed in the main. That the country needed an honest and moral person after Nixon and Ford is true and he fulfilled that - I wish he had been more for the wage earners and less for he rentiers.

[mountain grammy]

103. I also had my issues with President Carter, but voted for him over Reagan

because I believed Reagan to be the worst choice America could ever make. Turns out I was right.

[Whisp]

9. Yes, I love him. One of the truly great ones. n/t

[lark]

10. I love and revere President Carter.

He's probably the best man to occupy the office in a very long time. I know for sure he's the best man to do so in the past 50 years. JFK was inspirational in many ways, but definitely had personal failings. Carter is a good moral caring man and I wish we had more like him in politics.

[Scurrilous]

11. K & R

[stevenleser]

12. Posted on FB and someone there says that Carter didn't say this, that John Fuselgang did.

Going to check it now.

[Hissyspit]

110. Here's Fuselgang saying it in May broadcast:

http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/john-fugelsang-viewpoint-presents-the-revoltingly-fake-christian-of-the-week

Don't know of any reason to think Carter said it first.

Wish people would automattically question Facebook graphics by reflex.

[Yavin4]

14. I'm chuckling at the responses on this thread about President Carter.

In 1980, Liberals/Progressives hated him, more than they do Obama. Carter was primaried by Ted Kennedy and Jerry Brown.

Maybe in 2046, there will be DU threads praising Obama.

[totodeinhere]

17. But by today's standards Carter looks a lot more liberal than he did then.

Heck, by today's standards even Nixon looks liberal on some issues.

[Yavin4]

20. Or, as people age...

they come to understand that a president has to compromises in order to get anything done.

[totodeinhere]

21. That's a good lesson for today's politics too isn't it. n/t

[merrily]

113. There are DU threads praising Obama today, so why not?

There just isn't unanimous approval. Nothing wrong with lack of unanimity.

I've seen Democrats praising Eisenhower, Nixon and Goldwater, too. Not I and and I never will, but some lefties think they were great.

The right turn the Democratic Party took after Reagan has brought the entire country to the right. So, people who seemed rightist between WWII and Clinton are looking pretty good to the left today. not surprising.

[totodeinhere]

15. I have always liked Jimmy Carter although I was not even born yet

when he was elected. His work for humans rights and justice around the world has been outstanding.

President Carter on NSA spying.

I think the invasion of human rights and American privacy has gone too far," President Carter told CNN's Suzanne Malveaux. "And I think that the secrecy that has been surrounding this invasion of privacy has been excessive... Bringing it to the public notice has probably been, in the long term, beneficial.

http://mediacitizen.blogspot.com/2013/07/jimmy-carter-vs-jimmy-carter.html

[zeeland]

23. President Carter an Antisemite ?

Your accusation is the most revolting comment I have yet to read from
the one post wonders attempting to stir the shit.

You are of course entitled to your opinion. President Carter is dearly
loved and respected. Few have come after his presidency that could
dream of standing in his shoes. Had we listened to his dire warnings of
the future waiting for us if we continued to squander our resources
what a different world it would be.

[byeya]

25. There's not a hint of antisemitism about Carter. A statement wholly without foundation.

[zeeland]

28. Yeah but according to this

( fill in the blank) an honest Antisemite.

[byeya]

40. Well as long as he's honest(snark)

[zeeland]

89. Ewwww...revealed all that did it?

You know nothing of my position which happens to be a two state solution. If you
want to make a public statement about your position do so and examine your own bias
while you're at it.

This thread is dedicated to President Carter. Take your problem with Israel to the appropriate
place.

[appacom]

90. My bad, I posted under the wrong comment. Will move. Sorry.

[zeeland]

91. Have a good one. Hate when I do that.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

26. How is Carter an anti-semite?

It's irresponsible making those allegations without citing verifiable sources.

[treestar]

27. He has been involved in the peace talks between Palestinians and Israel

I think once upon a time he said something sympathetic to the Palestinians. For a few on the fringe, that might be enough.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

32. Well, I have been in that fray ...

... and nothing Carter has said can be misconstrued as anti-semitic. I say this as a Jew. Suggesting that the Occupied Territories, where two separate systems of justice are applied based on ethnic and religious background, represent apartheid, is not anti-semitic, no matter how much the "fringe" want to say so.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

34. The burden is for you to provide the quote "in his own words."

Not on me to go digging up CDs based on what appears to be a fabrication on your part.

So, you'll excuse me if I am not convinced.

[byeya]

41. Dershowitz? (sound of a thread being flushed)

[Fantastic Anarchist]

44. Alan Dershowitz, a believer in torture, is your source.

Alan Dershowitz is highly biased and a proponent of torture.

I can provide a debate of Norman Finkelstein vs. Alan Dershowitz as a source, as well. And though Finkelstein can be considered biased, he does have facts on his side. Alan Dershowitz was caught plagiarizing another massive fraud, Joan Peters, who fabricated the "From Time Immemorial" who is now widely discredited. Alan lifted so much material from her fraud, that the ellipses are exact copies.

So, you still haven't provided Carter's "own words." I'm interested in what these "words" are, but yet, after several attempts, you seem incapable of providing them.

You haven't proved your point at all, and in fact, seem to be doing your argument a disfavor by linking Alan Dershowitz into this.

Edit to add: So now, is it your new argument that it isn't Jimmy Carter's "own words" but Alan Dershowitz's "own words" that you wish to present? If so, you still fail to prove anything.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

49. There's nothing for me to argue against!

You haven't provided Carter's "own words" so that I can examine them, and if warranted, even try to attempt to excuse them! They simply aren't there.

Where are the words??

[madrchsod]

48. alan is a liberal? maybe in your world he is....

[Enthusiast]

65. Liberal legal scholar Alan Dershowitz?

[byeya]

95. If Dershowitz is a liberal who on god's green earth would want to be a liberal.

Thanks for the laugh.

[LanternWaste]

39. You can of course, provide the relevant quotes, yes?

You can of course, provide the relevant quotes, yes?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

62. I don't think you know what proof is.

First, I am unable to discern what is your writing, and what is quoted in your massive copy and paste.

I need to see his words (maybe just a sentence or two), and a link to the source for context. I have no idea what is your writing and what is the "source" of his "own words."

Thanks.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

72. No need to thank me.

I do feel, however, that I should apologize that you weren't able to make your case. More's the pity.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

74. I don't mind you having an opinion.

You did, however, make an assertion, and irresponsible one at that, and then failed to provide proof for your assertion.

But, it's irrelevant now that you admit you have no argument.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

78. Where?

A massive copy/paste with no link to a source and no attempt at identifying what was your writing and that of the quote?

Hardly.

[Enthusiast]

66. Fuck the bible.......nt

[Fuddnik]

33. The AIPAC lobby thinks he is.

Because he had the audacity to tell Israel that their Palestinian policy is just like South Africa's apartheid policy.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

35. The AIPAC Lobby is a reactionary organization.

Bent on preserving the status quo, no different than any other Washington interests that wish to preserve their own power.

They're a joke.

[Fuddnik]

50. Yes they are.

On all counts

[Fantastic Anarchist]

52. With authority!

[Stuckinthebush]

30. He hates Jewish people?

Yeah...right.

[rdharma]

55. Jimmy Carter an anti-semite? Malarkey!

I guess that's Irish..... but I'm sure a "Scotsman" can understand what I mean.

[rdharma]

69. And once again..... I say....malarkey!

Jimmy Carter has never had any "antisemitic tendencies".

I disagree with your opinion.

[rdharma]

75. Glad to see you backing away from that "antisemeitic" claim! nt

I never disagreed that President Carter was an honest politician and laudable. A non-existent straw man! What's up with that?

Remember...... "he had antisemitic tendencies" is YOUR quote!

[rdharma]

81. And yes, at least you're consistent in your malarkey!

"And yes, I did say he has antisemetic tendencies and continue to believe that." - Singlemalt

Jimmy Carter was never anti-semitic! What malarkey!

[rdharma]

86. Oh, brother! Pathetic attempt to portray Pres. Carter as "antisemitic"!

[Enthusiast]

61. There was nothing anti-Semitic about Jimmy Carter.

Some equate being an advocate for Palestinian fairness as being anti-Semitic.

[xtraxritical]

19. President Carter was a nuclear submarine commander during the height

of the cold war. Anyone that thinks he was weak is deranged. To think that he lost the Presidency to a chicken hawk like Reagan is a sad commentary on the values of this nation.

[maddiemom]

24. I'll second that!

[sarge43]

114. No, he never commanded a nuke boat

Carter left the navy in 1953; the USS Nautilus was launched in 1955.

You're absolutely right about his abilities. No one got on Rickover's development teams who wasn't tough, focused and scary smart.

[treestar]

29. So true

Right wingers need to get a grip. Or admit they are not really Christians.

[frylock]

37. our greatest living president

[locks]

42. Thanks to you for a great post

and to Jimmy Carter for making us proud and the US look good around the world.

[malaise]

45. Yes

Carter is a decent human being

[madrchsod]

46. terrible president BUT....

the best ex president this country has ever had. he has done more to help humanity in his life after leaving office than any president before or after him.

[byeya]

96. + + +

He's pretty well lived down Griffin Bell & that Schlesinger character and Zbig.

He's not been afraid to take chances in retirement either - Good for Jimmy!
(Quit the Southern Baptist Convention too I think)

[mountain grammy]

105. Compared to who replaced him, he was not so terrible.

[flamingdem]

51. Great role model

I admire him very much!

[dothemath]

53. an honest man .....

If Diogenes was alive today, he could put his lantern away and take a well-deserved rest, never having to look any more for an honest man. President Carter more than fills the bill. Thank you, Mr. President.

[JackN415]

54. A very decent human being, victimized by Reagan demagoguery - I was heart broken when he lost.

[Enthusiast]

67. Fixed that fer ya.

A very decent human being, victimized by Reagan treason - I was heart broken when he lost.

[Lenomsky]

68. Love Love :)

Apart from the Christian Values past .. Christian are Saints and Sinners like any Ethnicity, Religion, Creed, Colour ... etc

[Laffy Kat]

79. My first presidental vote.

He is a truly gentle soul.

[woo me with science]

80. A voice of conscience in a sea of sellouts.

[Herlong]

83. It's true. One reason I voted for Ronald Regan was I believed the media spin

Of how If you lust in your heart, how can you be president. It's true. I was that kid.

He made me a better Democrat.

BTW don't jump to conclusions. I shook off the propaganda and learned all about Jimmy Carter and am better for it.

[mountain grammy]

107. While we were living it, the Carter presidency was difficult.

Interest rates were outrageous, gas lines interrupted our lives, and the hostage crisis was a day by day drain on our morale. At one point, I really hoped Ted Kennedy would get the nomination, but Republicans nipped that in the bud even while Reagan made back door deals with the Iranians.
But the day Reagan was elected was, in my opinion, one of America's darkest days in my lifetime. Almost as bad as losing JFK.

[Douglas Carpenter]

92. knr

[Grey]

93. Why Yes, Yes I do.... nt

[NMDemDist2]

94. i like Jimmy, but that isn't his quote. It's a John Fugelsang quote IIRC. n/t

[Hissyspit]

111. Here's the video:

http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/john-fugelsang-viewpoint-presents-the-revoltingly-fake-christian-of-the-week

[Rhiannon12866]

97. K&R! Always have, always will! One of my few heroes...

[ReRe]

99. I do ;-)

Jimmy Carter is definitely my favorite living President.

[TNNurse]

100. There are times when

I am not proud to say I am from Georgia. It has produced some serious assholes and idiots.....Gingrich, Chambliss and some others.

Jimmy Carter makes me proud to say I am from Georgia. He was not an effective President. He is however, the perfect example of what can be done when you are an Ex-President who happens to be a great, good decent man.

[MannyGoldstein]

101. Interesting picture here:

When he got together at the White House with the other living Presidents, he kept a distance from the others during the posed photos. Or they kept a distance from him.

No doubt, the others are cut from different cloth than is Carter.

(If we get a President Warren, I think she'll stand with Carter.)

[curlyred]

102. Absolutely

[steve2470]

104. He's a wonderful man, so smart and a good President too nt

[miked62916]

106. As usual, Carter is spot on

He's definitely one of my favorite presidents.

[4_TN_TITANS]

108. When my oldest daughter was 10 yrs.

She picked Carter to research for a book report. Now, her bedroom walls are lined with quotes from him.
I remember in 2008, a DUer was at an Atlanta Obama rally that Carter crashed -jeans, Secret Service, and all.
With my history knowledge, the only conclusion is that this is the best former-potus the country has ever seen.

[closeupready]

109. I absolutely ADORE that man!

K&R