Mass shooting at/near an REI in San Francisco. Multiple victims reported. 2 confirmed dead.

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

NBC Bay Area @nbcbayarea: #BREAKING: Emergency crews are responding to a report of multiple shooting victims at the REI in San Francisco. More to come

@Emergency_In_SF: SHOOTING: possibily inside REI (Brannan between 7th & 8th). Scene is NOT safe & area should be avoided.

[valerief]

1. If only everyone had guns, then everyone could be shot, er, unshot, er safe. Gungeoneer logic.

These shootings are very sad and very preventable.

[hack89]

7. We should start with strict California style gun control laws. nt

[Hoyt]

11. No, we should start with gun friendly states, manufacturers, gun lovers, etc.

[hack89]

18. So you don't support California style gun contol? I thought they worked. nt

[Duckwraps]

23. Hack you devil you.

[mick063]

43. Obviously they don't work

I appreciate your argument for even stricter laws.

[hack89]

45. I am glad I made you happy. nt

[pnwmom]

54. They're limited by the ease with which people can bring in guns from other states. n/t

[hack89]

55. So what percentage of guns used in crimes come from out of state?

just how big is the problem? You sound very certain so you must have some hard facts behind you.

[Duckwraps]

30. I live in a very, very blue state

which is very, very gun friendly, so what do you want to do to us?

[upaloopa]

26. gee another proponent of the "we can't do everything

so let's do nothing" meme.
Real fucking smart!

[hack89]

27. The irony is that doing nothing will still result in fewer gun deaths

that's what the past 20 years have taught us - a expansion of gun rights and steady declines in gun violence.

[Scootaloo]

32. Ah yes, the logic of "Pirates prevent global warming"

Correlation = causation!

[hack89]

33. No - I don't think more guns led to less gun violence

it is much more complicated than that.

Just pointing out that more guns and laxer gun laws did not lead to increased gun violence.

[upaloopa]

35. gunner logic

Up is down down is up. Having more guns does not lead to less gun violence.
We want to keep working on the problem now, tomorrow and forever. There is no acceptable level of gun violence. As long as people have guns people will cause gun violence. And people will have guns so we will keep fighting gun violence.

[hack89]

36. No - just awareness of the FBI crime statistics

are you arguing that gun violence has been increasing over the past 20 years?

[upaloopa]

39. that old dog don't hunt anymore

That's a reach way down in the bag of old gunner talking points.
You got to put some meat on that bone. Some macro statistic is meaningless in a debate about current shootings.
That's like saying the sky is blue most of the time so don't talk about the tornado that just hit us.

[hack89]

44. The present laws are working if gun violence is declining

can we at least agree that violence is at historic lows and there is no epidemic of gun violence like some would have us believe?

You think that gun violence is not falling fast enough - ok.

[upaloopa]

46. when we get the CDC back in the game I'll look at

it. I am unwilling to take facts from a biased source.

[hack89]

47. So the DOJ and FBI are biased sources? Holder is in the NRA's pockets?

ok. So you don't trust government agencies?

[Maximumnegro]

48. Ah, THAT'S why you've been defending Zimmerman

all comes together now...

[hack89]

49. I have consistently said that Zimmerman was guilty

so try again.

[upaloopa]

50. you don't get to define me

When information is filtered through a second hand source it gets spun.

[hack89]

53. The CDC is a third hand source

the only first hand sources are the thousands of individual police departments that file crime reports to the FBI. The CDC uses FBI on crimes - there is no independent CDC reporting system.

[Tx4obama]

2. What is a REI ? (solved)

Okay - Thanks to everyone that replied - I get it now

[onenote]

3. Sporting/outdoors equipment/clothing store.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

4. A sporting goods/outdoor store n/t

[madaboutharry]

5. Its a store that sells sporting goods and clothes

[jberryhill]

8. A sporting goods chain of some sort

They have a lot of good cycling stuff.

http://www.rei.com/

[NMDemDist2]

9. an upscale outdoor equipment and clothing store

i love their stuff

http://www.rei.com/

[Hoyt]

14. But it's a store for real outdoor people - no friggin guns.

[hlthe2b]

17. EXACTLY....

[hack89]

24. So hunters are not "real" outdoor people? Really? nt

[Hoyt]

28. Most gunners don't use guns for hunting, unless we are talking people.

[hlthe2b]

15. Recreational Equipment Inc..., I think originally, but now just goes by REI--it is a cooperative...

Membership gets you dividends and sometimes better pricing, but I think it is now open to non-members as well.

Flagship store was in Seattle (with another "flagship" store in Denver) but are in many areas of the country now.

[bluedigger]

25. They'll sign you up at the register, I think.

That's how it worked for me in 2010, anyways.

[hlthe2b]

6. Damn to another mass shooting and damn again to one in an REI....

Not that the "where" should make a difference, mind you, but it does remind me of how one can not be safe from mad men (or perhaps the rare "mad woman&quot with guns anywhere...

[femmedem]

10. video here:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Emergency-Crew-Responding-to-Reported-Shooting-at-REI-in-San-Francisco-215295931.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Well, another day...another shooting...

Not innuendo to them...just expect them...and I expect them to become even more common.

[NYC_SKP]

13. pic:

[Deep13]

16. Let's say a prayer for the REAL victims here, the guns.

[Cooley Hurd]

19. Google Street View of REI on Brannan:

[Tx4obama]

20. ''... apparent robbery attempt ...''

@nbcbayarea reporting police-involved shooting in apparent robbery attempt at or near #REI on Brennan St LIVE http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Emergency-Crew-Responding-to-Reported-Shooting-at-REI-in-San-Francisco-215295931.html

https://twitter.com/newsbellglobal/status/355804098790043648

[rollin74]

21. They have 1 in custody

Trying to determine if there are any more suspects

[Warpy]

22. They got one guy "covered in blood" who fired at police

"Covered in blood," yeah, that's usually what happens when you shoot people at close range.

Let's hope he was a lone scumbucket.

[ananda]

29. It was a Gift Center and Jewelry Store.

..

[Egalitarian Thug]

31. Too many rats in the cage. The pressure has been constantly increased for too long

and more and more people are breaking.

[galileoreloaded]

34. This. Nt

[MH1]

40. Exactly. nt

[kalisto2010]

37. How are those gun laws working

To the people who make the snarky comments like "how are those gun control laws working" in response to every murder that happens in a blue state ask yourself this. Do you say the same thing when someone is murdered in general "How are those thou shalt not kill commandments working for ya" or "How are those laws against murder working out for ya". Yes, that's how ignorant you people sound when you reduce the debate to that elementary level.

[Deep13]

41. Blue state killers are getting them from somewhere...

...and that's usually from red states.

[hack89]

38. It was a jewelery store robbery. nt

[Brother Buzz]

42. Wholesale Jewelery Mart (open to the public)

Many vendors.

[winter is coming]

51. Not again! Damn. n/t

[SoCalDem]

52. More guns needed, obviously

...just in case