Greenwald Says He's Not Halfway Done Revealing Snowden's Information

[Catherina]

Greenwald Says He's Not Halfway Done Revealing Snowden's Information

...

"The majority of it remains to be done, and that includes stories that are at least as significant, if not more significant than the ones we've already done," Greenwald said.
...

Greenwald said that for the past six weeks he has carried around "for every second of everyday" a highly encrypted electronic copy of the secret documents leaked to him by Snowden – some 10,000 documents from the NSA. Greenwald said that he has other copies should anything happen to the one he carries around, and Snowden has previously said that other encrypted copies of the documents have been given to other journalists for safe keeping.

As for the concerns over whether Russian authorities could copy the documents Snowden is reportedly carrying with him – or if Chinese intelligence agents had done so already when he was in Hong Kong – Greenwald said such concerns underestimate Snowden's experience in the world of high-tech spycraft.

"This is a very sophisticated cyber operative," Greenwald said before referencing a report from The New York Times which said Snowden had been especially trained by the NSA to be an offensive cyber attacker. "This is somebody who completely knows what he's doing in terms of how to store material securely and what techniques are used by governments around the world, like the NSA, in order to gain access to places they don't have authority to access."

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19646142&ref=http://t.co/3mS8YU6lay

[OilemFirchen]

1. Virtually everything in this article is bullshit.

I will, however, commend Greenwald's editors for the lack of grammatical and spelling errors.

[rhett o rick]

3. Your arguments are astounding. Do you know what "virtually" means? nm

[OilemFirchen]

9. Have you figured out how to spell EWG?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

14. Have you figured out how to spell "FAIL?"

[rhett o rick]

76. Oh plez. That's the best you got? nm

[ProSense]

2. Greenwald: Snowden asylum 'unlikely' to stop me from publishing leaks

Greenwald: Snowden asylum 'unlikely' to stop me from publishing leaks
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023236886

[Hydra]

4. I'm looking forward to the revelations coming

Patiently.

The Gov't seems to be a little twitchy about what he's still got though. I bet it's interesting.

[GeorgeGist]

5. Greenwald is an idiot.

And he's going to get burned.

[KoKo]

7. Thank you for your uninformed comment....because it's revealing.

's

[99th_Monkey]

106. +10 nt

[Whisp]

18. Half wit is only half done.

I think so too, he's in a dangerous game that he thinks he is in control of.

Big egos like his feel invincible and smarter than the rest of the planet, but they are not.

[Gravitycollapse]

22. That sounds a lot like you're advocating state violence against him.

[Whisp]

23. no it doesn't.

wtf.

[Gravitycollapse]

24. You vaguely refer to the danger he is in while mocking him for thinking he's "invincible."

What other point could you make out of that than that you think he's in actual danger? That doesn't seem to bother you very much. And, in fact, you seem almost to be saying he has it coming.

[Whisp]

26. o.f.f.s.!

You've obviously gone way over the edge with your fantasies.

seek help.

[Gravitycollapse]

38. What exactly do you want to happen to Greenwald?

[Whisp]

42. I want him to be shown for the lying asshole he is.

I know your fantasy has a much more exciting plot.

[Gravitycollapse]

45. You said he was playing a dangerous game.

You expect me to believe you were referring to his possible humiliation?

[Whisp]

52. believe whatever you like.

It's your fantasy, not mine.

[Gravitycollapse]

55. It's funny how you refer to me as being fantasiful when you have that avatar.

I also don't buy for a second that you were merely referring to his humiliation.

[Whisp]

58. So you don't like the Obama's. Color me surprised. n/t

[Gravitycollapse]

59. I don't like to idolize my political leaders. It will only lead to two things...

A. Extreme disappointment
B. Cognitive dissonance.

I have no problem with the Obama family as a family. They're very pretty and photogenic. But that has nothing to do with the Obama administration.

[Gravitycollapse]

70. I give you credit for being honest. But your position is nonetheless despicable.

[gholtron]

74. And so is the act of revealing secret opratives in the field.if he does that.

I think it due justice if he does that.

[Gravitycollapse]

79. So you're on here advocating that Glenn Greenwald be killed.

[gholtron]

81. No Comment

[gholtron]

83. Actually, I should have said No further comment.

I said what I said.

[Maximumnegro]

30. oh save it

that is so ridiculous. you're making a fool of yourself with a comment like that.

yeah a bunch of us hope he gets whacked because totalitarianism.

jesus.

[Gravitycollapse]

37. Maybe not killed. Just roughed up a little. Just to let him know who's boss.

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[iemitsu]

93. Who is boss?

In America its supposed to be the people. How can the people be boss if they are not informed?

[Gravitycollapse]

97. My post was sarcastic. I'll add the tag.

[iemitsu]

100. My post was a bit sarcastic too but I'm too slow to

find the sarcasm tag. So I'm just blushing.

[nashville_brook]

32. can you explain what you mean by "dangerous game..." ??

[Whisp]

34. spying, espionage, lying

I think GG is a danger to us, with his self important drama trickle and the lies he spews.

Fuck Ron Paul.

[nashville_brook]

61. spying/espionage...on the part of the NSA, for sure -- that's dangerous to investigate

who do you think is lying?

[bobduca]

108. By whom?

and will you be cheering USA USA USA?

[Quantess]

121. One thing G. Greenwald is NOT is an idiot.

If anyone is smart enough to do what he is doing, it's him. He may get burned despite being very intelligent, which is a shame. Our nation needs people like Greenwald, Snowden, and other whistleblowers.

[KoKo]

6. I believe it! There is more than Greenwald and Snowden at Stake Here...and there is HELP...

I believe there are still some honest folks behind their efforts.... I won't say more...except that I think


...there is a "split" and that one is working for us...but it's small and clever..

We are close to a Corporate Controlled State....but, not there yet...and there will always be opposition...a core group who still have influence. It's small but as an older Democrat...I believe it's there...working in background in small ways ...but with lottsa smarts.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

15. Let it snow, let it snow, let it Snowden!

[Whisp]

19. The Spy Who Snowed Them. n/t

[Fantastic Anarchist]

124. LOL ...

Love it!

[rhett o rick]

77. You've slid into childishness. nm

[Fantastic Anarchist]

125. What?

[Waiting For Everyman]

8. Bummer for Big Brother.

If they make Snowden a martyr now, it'll be like the Tunisian who kicked off the Arab Spring.

[Maximumnegro]

33. um yeah. just like that.

yeah

[woo me with science]

138. The desperation is palpable.

IMO the rapid mobilization of this massive smear and propaganda machine has awakened people to how creepy and authoritarian the atmosphere here in America really has become.

Militarized assaults on peaceful protesters. Persecution of whistleblowers. Attempts to criminalize investigative journalism. And the immediate, simultaneous emergence of a weird, relentless drumbeat of vitriol toward Edward Snowden, with Stepford-like celebration of a surveillance state in the United States of America.

Even if you didn't read 1984, it is creepy beyond words.

[11 Bravo]

10. Then GG climbed atop a table and began jumping up and down while shouting ... "HEY! Everybody ...

over here ... look at me! And by the way, keep those donations coming!"

[JI7]

12. it does come off as GG and Assange trying to use this to promote themselves

[rhett o rick]

128. Ah yes. How easy that would be. The authoritarian state is wonderful and down with whistle-blowers

that try to wrest us from our comfortable denial bubbles.

[nashville_brook]

27. can you provide a link to where Greenwald makes a pitch for donations

in this way? I'd like to see how he does this because I've not seen one yet.

[Whisp]

39. Here's a link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/04/reader-funded-journalism

Reader Funded Journalism:

For that reason, when I moved my blog from Salon to the Guardian, the Guardian and I agreed that I would continue to rely in part on reader support. Having this be part of the arrangement, rather than exclusively relying on the Guardian paying to publish the column, was vital to me. It's the model I really I believe in.

It is an indispensable factor in my independence. It enables me to work far more effectively by having the resources I need and to spend my time only on the work which I actually believe can have an impact. It keeps my readers invested in the work I do and keeps me accountable to them. And it's what enables me to know that I'll be able to continue focusing on the issues and advancing the perspectives which I think are vital regardless of who that might alienate. I've spent all of this week extensively traveling and working continuously on what will be a huge story: something made possible by being at the Guardian but also by my ability to devote all of my time and efforts to projects like this one.

Currently, this is not the conventional way journalism is funded in establishment circles, but I'm convinced it's the better way. For a deeply struggling field, and whether they want it or not, this is the way of the future: the short-term future at that, and I think that's a very positive development. I'm truly appreciative of all readers who spend their time coming here, and grateful for those who in the past have supported the work I do. Those who wish to do so this year can do that here.

Sounds like the highest payer will get the 'news' they want, don't it?

I wonder if he has to disclose who gives him money and how much. You'd think that would be a necessity in this kind of arrangement. Maybe someone else here knows more about that part.

[nashville_brook]

111. that's a story on how reader funded journalism works. can you show me where he makes the actual

ask. does an ad pop-up when you read a Glenn Greenwald story? is there a paywall? does he send emails asking for money? are there ads within his stories that ask for money?

[Whisp]

112. The link to the donation page is at the very end of his article.

Paypal and check, looks like. Comment section there as well.

As for your other questions, good ones. I don't know all the answers tho.

Have Pen Will Write (whatever you pay me to write) is what it can easily become if it hasnt already, in my opinion.

[Major Hogwash]

103. Yeah, I tend to agree.

If Greenwald has bombshells to let loose, then what the hell is he waiting for??

[Thinkingabout]

11. Greenwald's revelations are suspect at best, unreliable, gathered by illegal activity and lies on

Different parts of the revelations. Spy and Lie Snowden does not have any credibility, accused and on the run. The FBI already knows every key stroke he made while in the NSA and I don't think there is any big revelations the FBI does not already know.

[rhett o rick]

78. Wow, all that and not a single link. Where did you pull that out of? nm

[Thinkingabout]

84. Where does all post require a link, i do my own research and do quiet well, try it, it helps

Expand capabilities. BTW, I don't take guardian links as truthful, suspect sources.

[Thinkingabout]

130. Do you have access to yahoo,google, bing, etc? Try some of those if you need a link.

[Bolo Boffin]

13. Of course not. When you get as great a fundraiser as this, you milk it as long as you can.

And, yes, Greenwald's contract with the Guardian allows him to accept reader donations. He insisted on it. In fact, 2 days before his first Snowden-based article, he made sure to write about his ability to receive donations in the Guardian and to provide a helpful link so that any reader inspired to fill the tip jar could do so.

You would think with the vast importance of this information, Greenwald would be releasing it all faster. Isn't our right to know more important that Greenwald's fundraising? Hell, no! There's still money to be made! He's going to drag this out as long as possible.

[nashville_brook]

25. do you really think that a corporate lawyer went into investigative journalism for the money?

seriously?

can you explain the ethical problem with reader supported journalism? is the corporate advertising model more ethical in your estimation? is NPR also "milking it?" was I.F. Stone a lowly money-grubber?

you say you've got a problem with the pace at which he's releasing information. tell us more about this. how quickly do you think this material should come out? are we to assume that you prefer the Wikileaks model?

[DevonRex]

72. LOL!! Such a great attorney that he couldn't afford to pay his own taxes. nt

[nashville_brook]

89. Glenn Greenwald worked for ACORN!

[DirkGently]

90. I hear he's one of those dirty "Occupiers!"

Burn him! Buuuuuuuurn hiiiim!

[nashville_brook]

92. Glenn Greenwald never showed up to a GA.

#GGoccupyScandals

Glenn Greenwald never mic-checked.

Glenn Greenwald voted against progressive stack.

Glenn Greenwald had goofy jazz hands.

[DirkGently]

94. Glenn Greenwald abused the "block!"

[Bolo Boffin]

80. Greenwald is soliciting donations with his Snowden revelations.

He made his latest defense of this TWO DAYS before the first Snowden story. I've not checked the timeline but he may very well have been with Snowden in Hong Kong when he posted the story.

It is UNDENIABLE that he is raising money off of this. All you can do is bluster. If all of that information is so vital for us to know, and it was scandalous that the NSA was keeping it from us, why isn't it just as scandalous for Greenwald to keep it from us now? Especially since his financial interests lay in making the story last as long as possible?

[nashville_brook]

91. Glenn Greenwald works for money!!

not a compelling #ggscandal.

[Bolo Boffin]

118. The longer the Snowden scandals, the more money Greenwald makes. n/t

[nashville_brook]

119. another view: deeper pool of donors by moving to new stories

one could just as easily say that he's exhausted the donor base on this story and would see better returns on turning his attention to 2-3 other subject areas that bring in different readers.

[DirkGently]

129. Interesting take. So monied, self-interested rhetoric from,

say, politically motivated folks interested in quashing the scandal is okay, right? Rhetorical tactics, propaganda, messenger-shooting. All of that, from people with direct pecuniary interest in minimizing the story. All fine?

But a whiff of a journalist benefitting from his work poisons the well?

Reminds me of the people calling Occupier protesters hypocrites for using computers. All money and selfish interest on one side, yet the other must adhere to a monastic, impoverished existence to maintain credibility?

How do you excuse money and influence and political interest on one side, and condemn mere professionalism on the other, exactly?

[Bolo Boffin]

136. Oh, no. This is not "mere professionalism" on Greenwald's part.

If he was getting a flat fee for his columns, you might have a point. In fact, I wouldn't have said anything on this in that case.

No, Greenwald insisted that he be allowed to solicit donations as part of his contract. It is in his financial interests to draw out this story as long as possible. And now what the NSA hides from us, Greenwald does as well to make more payola. Fuck him and the Rand Paul horse he's riding on.

[carolinayellowdog]

16. crow and humble pie will be the diet for some naysayers

once these stories some out

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. They will never admit to it

Ever.

[HardTimes99]

69. Four words for the naysayers: "Tip of the iceberg" - nt

[DirkGently]

82. Being totally wrong hasn't slowed them down yet.

[Aerows]

137. They will just post

more maps of Moscow.

[okwmember]

17. I just want Greenwald to quit with the grandstanding

and reveal the information. If you've got more, report it. The story should be about the information and not about you.
If the information is still encrypted, then you don't really know what you have. When you know, let us know and we can determine for ourselves what it means to us individually or as a society.

Greenwald isn't the only reporter guilty of this. I just hate it when they tease information and characterize it for us as damaging or explosive or whatever. It makes me feel like the reporters are just jerking us around the way the government often does like we're idiots. Maybe it is exactly what you say it is, but until you report it, we'll never know.

[Mojorabbit]

29. It is the perfect way to do it. Keeps it in the news cycle. nt

[DCBob]

20. and in two more weeks he will claim he is not 1/3 done.

Hype is all this guy is selling.

[nashville_brook]

31. if it was all hype they'd be no need for your criticism.

but obviously you see him as a threat or else there'd be no reason to waste the keystrokes on him.

[DCBob]

35. The only thing that bothers me is the press this moron is getting.

It reminds me of Giraldo Rivera and the much hyped opening of Al Capone's vault which turned out be mostly empty.

[Gravitycollapse]

40. Except the vault opened now is filled to the door jam with skeletons from the US government.

Have you lived under a rock the last month?

[DCBob]

43. The stuff that has been revealed is not shocking to me..

and shouldn't be to anyone else with any common sense.

[Gravitycollapse]

47. Why isn't it shocking to you that our government is data mining our digital communications?

[DCBob]

49. Must this be repeated..... its been going on a long time and its legal and necessary.

never mind.. I know you don't agree anyway.

[Gravitycollapse]

53. You honestly think this is necessary? Put the koolaid down.

It's necessary for private economic interests and political careers. If you think the data mining protects us, you're delusional.

[DCBob]

54. yes... and I cant stand koolaid... mostly a red wine/beer drinker.

[zappaman]

56. You know Obama is reading this, right?

Proof...

[DCBob]

57. LOL!

nice.

[nashville_brook]

65. regardless of it's shocking to some, it's incompatible with functioning Democracy,

and so there's going to be those of us who try to fix it.

It's a shame that there are those who are so jaded that they don't have a problem with a global panopticon. Eight years of Bush Jr can cause all sorts of cognitive disorientation with regard to acceptable limits of "executive privilege."

But we have a different executive now, and something can be done about this. Something must be done about this before the GOP takes the White House again.

[nashville_brook]

41. that's quite a bitter tone. he's really gotten under your skin apparently.

[DCBob]

44. right.. hehe.

seems I have gotten under your skin. Ciao.

[nashville_brook]

63. see, this shows a bad faith argument.

and we're conditioned to this through competitive sports culture. when the NSA spying affair is being treated as a team sport, where there's a "game" to lose rather than a principle to uphold, then we're not doing policy debate. it instead becomes a kind of sporting match with mob rules instead of Constitutional principles.

if you look at the way this discussion has progressed here and tone that is being taken there's a clear disconnect with one side doing policy debate ("let's fix this&quot and the other side working the discourse into an emotional lather.

[DirkGently]

75. Everything is a game to the childish mindset.

Seeing the NSA scandal as an Obama issue is just ludicrous.

[grasswire]

116. hear hear!

I have seen this "working the discourse" in two other places on the Internet:

1. When I monitored freerepublic daily for eight years from the Lewinsky era through the first Bush term.

2. When I visit conservativecave -- the site that exists only to make sport and trouble of/on DU.

It's heart-sickening, and creepy.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. Drip. Drip. Drip. Spacing them out for more impact.

The NSA and their pals across the world would be burning documents in the old days. Now, they're probably smashing hard drives.

Hopefully, they'll be hiring lawyers before they're arrested.

[forestpath]

36. K&R

[grasswire]

46. If the feds were worried about protecting the information...

...the would grant Snowden permanent immunity and restore his passport in exchange for agreement to stop the flow of leaks.

Because they appear to only want to punish him severely, we must assume that they care more about making an example of him than they care about the secrets.

That's a real arrogant and cynical position for the feds to take.

[jmowreader]

85. Granting Snowden immunity wouldn't stop the leaks

Greenwald's little fundraiser isn't going to stop, and Snowden's already given him everything he has.

[davidpdx]

96. Which is why Snowden can tell Russia he won't leak any more information

Yet he is through another person. We'll see if Russia believes him.

[Blackford]

48. This whole schtick from Greenwald is reminiscent of the "Whitey Tape" crap.

He's being claiming bombshells for weeks and instead hasn't even delivered a firecracker.

[nashville_brook]

67. is it not a bombshell that the NSA is collecting all our digital data?

or that Skype has been handing over video to the NSA who has also been sharing with FBI and DoD?
or that there's effectively been no oversight by Congress.
or that it's contractors and subcontractors doing the collection, leaving gaping security holes?
or that FISA courts have approved 100% of requests, giving blanket access using a questionable of Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act.
or that the program uses direct access to fiber optics cables to sweep up data?

these seem like bombshells to most of the world.

[Blackford]

68. These seem like hyperbolic rhetorical nonsense

when the fact that corroborating evidence to the claims has yet to be presented.

[nashville_brook]

110. here's the handy guide to what we know | June 25 - WaPo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/25/heres-everything-weve-learned-about-how-the-nsas-secret-programs-work/

Here’s everything we’ve learned about how the NSA’s secret programs work

In the last few days, the press has focused on NSA leaker Edward Snowden and his efforts to evade capture by the U.S. government. But the more important story is what we’ve learned about National Security Agency surveillance programs thanks to his disclosures.

Any one of Snowden’s revelations would have been a big story in its own right. But the news has been coming so rapidly that it’s difficult to keep track of it all. So here’s a handy guide to the recent revelations about what the NSA has been doing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/25/heres-everything-weve-learned-about-how-the-nsas-secret-programs-work/

[DirkGently]

73. Wow. Disingenuous analogy of the week.

Sorry, but this is a news story. It's not all about someone's political inconvenience. Comparing it to a non-existent racist trope is scraping the bottom of a deep, slimy barrel.

No one's buying what you're selling.

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. Isn't that gonna cause Snowden a problem ...

in light of his recent asylum request?

[Cleita]

51. He was just on Chris Hayes. Says a lot of lies are being told in the MSM about what

has been revealed and who has the information. I don't know if they are going to rerun it. It seems they are going to rerun the Zimmerman trial instead.

[nadinbrzezinski]

109. TV died, so listening to BBC

No big loss there

[Summer Hathaway]

60. GG won't be 'halfway done'

until he's milked every bit of self-serving publicity out of the situation.

[DesMoinesDem]

62. Finally, someone points out the obvious: an NSA hacker might know something about security

"This is a very sophisticated cyber operative," Greenwald said before referencing a report from The New York Times which said Snowden had been especially trained by the NSA to be an offensive cyber attacker. "This is somebody who completely knows what he's doing in terms of how to store material securely and what techniques are used by governments around the world, like the NSA, in order to gain access to places they don't have authority to access."

The idiots that keep saying the Chinese and Russians have the documents know nothing about security.

[UTUSN]

64. *SPILL* it, Glen, just fricking SPILL whatever ya got!1 n/t

[yodermon]

71. and what, precisely, the fuck are you waiting for, Glen? n/t

[allin99]

86. He's such a drama king.

[pnwmom]

87. The Russians don't have to break the codes. All they have to do is give Snowden

the same drugs they've given other agents from whom they've wanted information. Snowden could give them the codes and not even remember it afterwards.

[flamingdem]

99. A reporter who was at his interview said Snowden was shivering when he spoke

He's very vulnerable living at that hotel. He must be willing and ready to so anything
to get out. He doesn't have a clear way out.

How could it be easier for the agents there when it's already guarded and airtight!

[railsback]

113. So Snowden is getting a dose of what its REALLY like to be under surveillance

and probably thinking what a big dumbass he's been.

[flamingdem]

114. It certainly doesn't sound pleasant

I think he's nursing fantasies of hanging out on the beach with Greenwaldo in South America pero fergetaboutit, he'll be lucky if Putin really takes him in.

The same reporter said that Sarah Harrison the wikileaks rep is very bossy and is running the show.

No surprise there!

There is one tiny problem for Snowden.. Putin will scuttle the meeting with Obama if he let's him stay.

Thus, I suppose he could offer asylum for a week and then shuttle him off to Venezuela.

From what I can tell Obama might cancel the meeting preparations if this happens.

Guessing that was the nature of their call today

[railsback]

115. I really don't think Putin and Obama are on bad terms

My 'assumption' is that they agreed to wage a psychological war on Snowden: Surveillance, diplomatic mind games, driving poor Ed over the edge to where he's begging to give himself up. Then both get what they want.

[flamingdem]

117. That's plausible

But then how does Putin answer to Snowden's asylum request?

Sounds like the pressure is on for Putin to give him an answer.

Eddie is tired of airport food.

[Cleita]

131. Which makes both of them look bad.

Well we all know Putin is ex-KGB and not to be trusted.

Too bad Obama is inserting himself in this way, which makes him look as bad as Putin, if your theory turns out to be true.

[Historic NY]

88. You can reveal all the sh t your want but actually...

demonstrating who, what, where, when, why & how...with actual examples mean more than the stuff they been pushing. In the last 6 months no other contractor or employee has stepped forward only this guy with an agenda, and the guy pushing that agenda. I wonder how much money traded hands.

[railsback]

95. Sounds like Greenwald already shot his load

and the rest is just residue.

[gholtron]

98. I'll be glad when both these idiots 15 minutes of fame is over

More and more people are starting not to give a shit no more. And when their 15 minutes are up then the only ones that will be listening will be the US Government. I'm glad he's snowed in Russia Btw, how is he going to make a living there? I'm sure Putin is not going to give him free room and board.

[agent46]

101. Releasing information in bite-sized chunks

makes sense to me from the standpoint of maximizing impact on public awareness. Each release gives time for the international community to evaluate and internalize significant shifts in our understanding and world view.

Incremental shifts in one's world view are preferable to overload for a lot of practical reasons - politically and socially as well as security considerations for Greenwald, Snowden and others involved. I doubt he's doing this as some cynical PR ploy for self-promotion. Imo, such accusations are either disingenuous or merely thoughtless.

[Catherina]

122. I think this is wisest too. I'm still not done with the wikileak cables and it's been years

If he had published it all at once, without giving people time to digest and discuss it, imagine the ease with which professional whatevers would have mixed it all up to distort things. And it would already be "yesterday's news" so let's talk about Michelle's new hairdo now. These revelations are too important and are having a huge impact worldwide. You can't just dump then and give the state an upper-hand in controlling the narrative.

[MjolnirTime]

126. The Public has reached saturation level. Noone even cares anymore.

Too bad for Glenn's pocketbook. He had counted on this being his retirement.

[agent46]

133. You may be speaking for yourself here. n/t

[MjolnirTime]

134. Glenn's not front page news anymore. Just look around.

[agent46]

135. I know a lot of people

I know a lot of people who don't live and die, or formulate their values and opinions, by what's considered front page news.

You should try it.

[Douglas Carpenter]

102. what's important is that attention is kept on the reality of the Surveillance State

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I suspect the longer he can keep the drama going better for the cause of freedom. The better for all of us.

[adirondacker]

105. Excellent point. It would be nice if they could keep it dripping all the way to the primaries.

Perhaps then we can have an honest debate.

[Catherina]

123. +1 n/t

[MjolnirTime]

104. Glenn Greenwald really needs to get a life. He is a complete attention whore.

[99th_Monkey]

107. Excuse me, but your green slip is showing. ~nt

[bobduca]

120. K&R

[Ian David]

127. Unless Snowden has information about Roswell or Reptilians, I don't expect surprises. n/t

[Corruption Inc]

132. The most amazing thing will be how the information will be ignored

by the brainwashed population of the U.S.. For instance, it's well know that elections are rigged, war is now a criminal for-profit venture, financial markets are regularly manipulated, ratings agencies are corrupt, 9/11 was allowed to happen, torturers and torture camp conspirators are free and will never be prosecuted and criminal banks continue to freely commit crimes knowing that a small fine will be the cost of doing their criminal business.

So whatever Snowden reveals will be first ignored by millions then secondly presented as normal by our own corrupt government propaganda machine that is easily manipulated as it's down to only 6 corporations.

Just watch as our ignorant masses of propagandized sheep gossip about the latest made-for-TV courtroom drama as their country is sold to the highest bidders.