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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:23 PM

Why are there only six people on the Zimmerman jury? nt

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Reply Why are there only six people on the Zimmerman jury? nt (Original post)
Callmecrazy Jul 2013 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #1
Fresh_Start Jul 2013 #2
HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #3
Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #4
Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #5
Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #6
Mr.Bill Jul 2013 #7
customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #16
FourScore Jul 2013 #17
spin Jul 2013 #8
Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #9
pnwmom Jul 2013 #10
frazzled Jul 2013 #14
TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #11
russspeakeasy Jul 2013 #12
Union Scribe Jul 2013 #13
Gregorian Jul 2013 #15
bike man Jul 2013 #18
Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #19
kentuck Jul 2013 #20
In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #21

Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:24 PM

1. That's the way they do it in Florida.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:24 PM

2. Florida is why....

Their crimes, their rules.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:25 PM

3. 12 only used in capital cases.

 

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:25 PM

4. Floriduh. n/t

 

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:25 PM

5. Florida law only requires six

Most states still do 12 but the Supreme Court ruled a while back that only six are legally required.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:26 PM

6. Really?

I've lived here for four years and never heard that.
I need to get out more.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:30 PM

7. Because they're all women

and we all know women have twice the power. At least us married guys know, anyway.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:40 AM

16. I'm not religious

but amen, bro!

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:27 AM

17. Got that right!

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:35 PM

8. It saves money. ...

Remember Florida doesn't have an income tax. Consequently the state has to use its money wisely. Why hire twelve people to do a job that six can do.

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Response to spin (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:44 PM

9. I don't buy that...

I lived in Nevada and served on a 12 person jury there. No income tax there either.

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Response to spin (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:47 PM

10. We don't have an income tax but we still have 12 person juries,

which is much better for a defendant than a 6 person jury. It's twice as easy to get one holdout out of twelve, than one holdout of six.

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Response to spin (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:09 PM

14. They pay jurors next to nothing

(here in Cook County, IL., it's $17.20 a day). So I doubt it's the money.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:47 PM

11. that's just how Florida does it

They only have 12 person juries if it's a death penalty case. I can see both good reasons and bad reasons about the number of jurors.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:03 PM

12. We do everything half assed.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:04 PM

13. It is modeled on the DU jury system. nt

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:16 PM

15. Six? Sheesh, why not just one!

Fuck, that's awful.

Hell, one would save even more time and money. I can just imagine being prosecuted for a crime I didn't commit, and the jury is old stupid Palin loving uncle Joe. GUILTY!

What a god damned nightmare. I will never ever set foot in Florida.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:03 AM

18. According to this, Connecticut and Florida allow juries of only 6

 

for serious cases, while many states allow six in misdemeanor cases




http://www.volokh.com/2013/06/20/the-six-person-jury-in-the-zimmerman-case/

The Supreme Court has held, in Williams v. Florida (1970), that the right to trial by jury doesnít require the traditional jury of twelve people; six suffices. (Ballew v. Georgia (1978) held that juries of five or fewer are unconstitutional.)

Nonetheless, while many states allow six-person juries in misdemeanor cases, very few allow them for very serious felonies, such as murder, for which Zimmerman is being tried. According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, State Court Organization 2004, tbl. 42 (supplemented by this statute, only Connecticut and Florida provide for a six-person jury for very serious but noncapital felonies, and only Florida provides for a six-person jury when the offenses is punishable by life imprisonment (with or without parole); Utah apparently provides for an eight-person jury; all other states provide for twelve-person juries. (Again, Iím speaking here of very serious felonies; a few more states provide for six-person juries for less serious felonies as well as misdemeanors.)

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:11 AM

19. A six member jury for murder?

What do you have to do for a 12 member panel? Violate HOA regs? Leave empty garbage cans out overnight?

Vote Democrat?

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:52 AM

20. Because it's half a jury.

There is a reason for 12 men or women on a jury. Guilt or innocence is not a trivial matter in a court of law. It is a travesty of justice to only have six on a jury, in my opinion.

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Response to Callmecrazy (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:56 AM

21. Maybe they were having a difficult time finding jurors who didn't want to hang Zimmerman.

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