General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTweet from Jay Smooth on Zimmerman..
jay smooth @jsmooth995
[font size=lg]The fundamental danger of an acquittal is not more riots, it is more George ZImmermans.[/font]
7:51 AM - 13 Jul 2013
1,412 Retweets 456 favorites Reply
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/13/truth-7/#comments
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)SarahHoyeCNN ✔ @SarahHoyeCNN
Young man among the crowd outside courthouse. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/l4yvqvRawP11:25 AM - 13 Jul 2013
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/13/chat-away-194/
countingbluecars
(4,766 posts)Sad that his parents will have to warn him about people like Zimmerman.
Cha
(297,196 posts)innocent.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)dead on.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)OJ, Casey Anthony, Menendez Brothers, Scott Peterson, Jodie Arias - could not give a shit.
Not my problem/issue/concern.
This case has massive implications.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)aside from the demeaning message it sends to African Americans, an acquittal will basically say: If you want to start some shit with someone, just carry a gun. If you start losing the fight you started, just shoot your victim and its all good.
Horrible, horrible public policy that.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I deplore the gun culture I live in today as a US Citizen. DO NOT make it worse, please and thank you.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)with one edit:
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)it won't work for black people.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)No one knows better than I do what happens in this community when they get away with heinous crimes. It only emboldens them.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)this backward and ignorantly racist culture, one 'hanging' begats another.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Rec
Cha
(297,196 posts)Jay Smooth hits it right on target.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)He nailed it in one.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Response to Cha (Reply #23)
Ruby the Liberal This message was self-deleted by its author.
Cha
(297,196 posts)to see it again, too. It was a little distracting but I'm glad you got his message.. which is an excellent point, imv.
Cha
(297,196 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)I luvs me some Jay Smooth!!! Had never seen that before, though it's probably been right here under my nose forever. What a wonderful teacher for young people. And OLD PEOPLE.
Cha
(297,196 posts)verdict out.
What a Miscarriage of Justice.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/13/chat-away-194/
sheshe2
(83,754 posts)My heart bleeds for Trayvon and his family.
I did not watch the trial, Cha. It hurt to much.
There was no justice for Trayvon today. America weeps.
Cha
(297,196 posts)I didn't watch it, either.. just hoping that Trayvon would get Justice.
I too was away for a bit and when I came back the verdict was out and my heart was broken like everyone's who only wanted what was fair for Trayvon.
The NAACP is outraged and brokenhearted as are many many people who needed only wanted justice for him.
Joshua DuBois ✔ @joshuadubois
Millions of mothers will fall asleep crying; fathers & sons who see themselves in the face of Trayvon are wondering where justice is.
Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
The jury in Florida just announced to the world that in America, it is perfectly okay by them to kill innocent young black men.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/13/our-hearts-are-broken/#comments
calimary
(81,240 posts)I couldn't believe it - but at the same time, I wasn't a bit surprised.
Trayvon didn't have a chance, OR get justice. And I fear, exceedingly, that there will be more victims like him because of this. Zimmerman's beating the rap will only give the green light to other paranoiacs who wish to be self-anointed vigilante judge/jury/executioner types. Now this murder has been justified.
Horrible.
A grim day. A very grim day.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... silence for Trayvon and his family. I can't believe it.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)if Z is found not guilty and a lot of non-"white hispanics" are angry, and decide that the people surrounding them are threatening their lives and that they should "Stand their ground" and defend themselves?
Cha
(297,196 posts)And, It would not be Justice for Trayvon, the victim..
and open up a whole other can of worms like Zimmerman.
I don't know who Jay Smooth is, but he knows what he's talking about! I agree with him too. Thanks, Cha
Cha
(297,196 posts)He definitely has a way of zeroing in on the problem!
Most definitely!
treestar
(82,383 posts)hey cha
Cha
(297,196 posts)treestar.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)K&R
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Jay is right, but it comes too late for Trayvon.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Sorry, if that sounds racist but that jury should have been a mixture of races like the defendent and victim. Like the melting pot of Florida and the USA.
Response to Cha (Reply #37)
Name removed Message auto-removed
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)sheshe2
(83,754 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)what this verdict truly means ... keep up the good fight..
marble falls
(57,081 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)"Green light" for anyone who wants to corner a black youth and provoke him to an altercation - knowing full well you've got the trump card in your pocket. You maybe get roughed up a bit - the kid gets a hole through him - but YOU aren't to blame.
I see more black kids packin'. And the NRA's "vision" starts to gel!
Cha
(297,196 posts)like he did Trayvon's and his family?
We'll see.
BillyRibs
(787 posts)angrychair
(8,698 posts)at this point. I don't agree but doesn't matter at this point. What does matter is that the finer points of why the jury ruled the way they did (Zimmerman was NOT found innocent, only reasonable doubt as to the motives) will be L O S T on the butt-scratching teabagger who will see this as giving them free reign to kill at will.
I fear for those in the South, of any color, as your every encounter will make you doubt yourself. People will be fearful to confront anyone for fear that that person can just pull a gun and shot them and claim self defense. No, its not legal or the same thing but try explaining that to the average teabagging idiot that has less understanding of the Constitution and the law than the average 3rd grader.
The Zimmerman verdict, if you agree or disagree, has more far-reaching impact that this one young man and his family. It is a dark new age for us all.
Cha
(297,196 posts)have seen no more about it. Not sure what that means? Wait... I did find something..
Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 08:06 PM PDT.
George Zimmerman Was Not Found Innocent Tonight
In our system of justice, the State cannot get a conviction unless it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the Defendant is guilty of a crime. This means that even if the jury believes that the Defendant is probably guilty, they must find him not guilty if they have a reasonable doubt. In other words, if the jury believed that it was 75% or even 99% likely that George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin, they must find George Zimmerman not guilty as long as they have a reasonable doubt that he might not be guilty.
As much as we don't like the result in this particular case, we should keep in mind that the legal principle articulated by English jurist William Blackstone is important. He stated:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/13/1223420/-George-Zimmerman-Was-Not-Found-Innocent-Tonight#
It was totally manslaughter to say the least.
I also saw in a NBC article that Zim bulb is suing NBC Universal for defamation of character.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/13/19441838-jury-finds-george-zimmerman-not-guilty?lite
I am hoping that something good comes out of this.
mahalo angry chair for inspiring me to search for the dkos article