so justice was served

[backwoodsbob]

I tried to tell you guys this was an impossible fight.Everyone was so emotionally wrapped up they wouldn't listen.

The DA had NO CHANCE in this fight.If anyone had set their emotions aside and looked at the case it was clear

[Cooley Hurd]

1. How was the case clear to you, Bob?

[backwoodsbob]

5. Z

was injured..they had witnesses that Travon was on top winning the fight.

That's all they needed to give reasonable doubt.

I've said that all along

[Cooley Hurd]

6. He stalked Trayvon. He confronted Trayvon

Trayvon was doing nothing wrong.

How do you reconcile that?

[bobduca]

8. "South Carolina"

[backwoodsbob]

14. do you have a point saying South Carolina

[bobduca]

20. See post #18

Echoes my sentiments about you perfectly.

[rug]

71. I agree with his analysis. I was born in Manhattan. What does that do to your sentiments?

[bobduca]

79. Good morning!

Still celebrating "justice" served?

[rug]

88. No, I'm still bemused by how easily it is to substitute bigotries.

Otherwise, it's a perfectly pleasant day.

[bobduca]

95. I know, thats what makes it so easy to divide us

And you are correct, the poster celebrating "justice" has nothing to do with "south carolina".

My negative reaction last night was unfair to non-jerks in South Carolina.

[morningfog]

23. You make SC look bad, which is hard to do.

[backwoodsbob]

27. how is that

[morningfog]

28. How is what?

[Cooley Hurd]

25. I know people in SC. Many, many good people...

...that aren't racists. It's easy to make the mistake of thinking everyone in SC is Strom or Jim DeMint, but it's also the state of Elizabeth Colbert-Busch and Ernest Hollings.

[bobduca]

29. I know its not fair

apologies to the non-racists in the south, east north and west.

I'm just not ready to hear why this is justice.

[Skidmore]

74. And it is also a state which continues to fill its own

legislature with good ole boys. When the laws of the state are more in line with this century than the 19th, you have point.

[backwoodsbob]

24. that doesnt matter

was trayvon swinging and was z in fear?...that's all that counts.

It was an impossible case for the DA

[morningfog]

30. But that is not the same thing as "justice was served", is it bob?

[backwoodsbob]

43. yes it is

if it isn't beyond reasonable.....ahhh fuck it

[morningfog]

44. That is not justice served.

That is a weak case by the prosecution. That is by no means justice. Just because the outcome is the one you hoped for, that is not justice.

[backwoodsbob]

56. how do you think this is what I hoped for?

do you read minds now?...or would you like me to start a thread about how in a perfect world Z would be behind bars now

[morningfog]

73. If you believe this was justice served, you must

have hoped for this outcome. Otherwise, you would have been rooting for injustice, right?

[Cooley Hurd]

31. Then the law is flawed.

[ieoeja]

49. For the first time in recorded history, a healthy adult male begged and pleaded ..

... not to be killed in a fist fight.


Completely ignoring the fact that Z had a firearm, have you ever participated, witnessed, or even heard of a healthy adult male pleading "don't kill me" in a fist fight?


I sure as fuck have not.

[otohara]

68. You're Making This About You Bob

why?
I told you so is so ... childish

[DearAbby]

87. Problem...All things were not equal.

One was armed, actively stalking another. aggression, intent. I saw the case clearly. One party did not have equal footing from the very minute of HIS birth. He was a Black male, assumed to be a criminal. Where is the justice for an innocent boy who had to die the death of a hardened criminal? What on GOD's green earth did that child do to deserve that?

Not one juror thought of how Trayvon felt? He too had the right to use whatever means necessary to save his life, including his fists. What if Trayvon had been able to get the gun from Zimmerman and he shot him to save his life, would this same jury rule him not guilty? All things were never equal in this case.

[2ndAmForComputers]

2. The President of the United States is STILL a black man.

Choke on that.

[craigmatic]

19. Yeah but it doesn't seem to help anything and if anything it allows stuff like this to go on because

people will walk on egg shells and pretend like we're in some imaginary post-racial society. Just look at how scared the prosecutor was to bring in race at the trial.

[DevonRex]

45. OMFG. You just blamed it on Obama. That is the most outrageous thing I've

EVER read on DU. Should I or [IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[great white snark]

77. Come on, you knew it was coming.

Just a question of who. You know, we should have started a betting pool. I'll take Manny to place.

[DevonRex]

100. I think that must have been what threw me for a loop.

Who is this guy? Sure, the usual suspects wouldn't have phased me one bit. But this one was like WTF?

[backwoodsbob]

32. why would I care if the president is black

I voted for him twice....four times if you count the primaries

[pipoman]

3. yep

except..justice wasn't necessarily served..

[Humanist_Activist]

4. Only to racist fucks who think Black folks have no right to self defense.

The case may have been weak, but Zimmerman should still be in jail for manslaughter.

[backwoodsbob]

10. if I had my way he would be gone

for life.

BUT..I didn't let my emotions overtake this.They had no chance

[Humanist_Activist]

13. Prosecutorial misconduct then, but certainly not justice...

don't confuse legality with justice, they are not directly related.

[avaistheone1]

34. Well said.

[backwoodsbob]

54. not getting the vertict we want is now miscondict?

they never had a chance.i..among a few said so

[Humanist_Activist]

67. They should have went for manslaughter from the beginning. n/t

[darkangel218]

101. Verdict, not vertict. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

91. You didn't let your emotions overtake this. You let your RACISM overtake this.

Trashing this bait thread and putting you on IGNORE!

[NuclearDem]

7. If by "justice was served" you mean the exact opposite,

Then yes, justice was served.

[Dwayne Hicks]

9. Oh please

Give us a break.

[SoCalDem]

11. served..

raw & tainted..but served nonetheless.

Z will be a haunted man forever..

shame on him for claiming that dead boy's last words as his own to weasel out of responsibility

28 yr old man who trains MMA 3 days a week & who is armed and pretends to be crying like a baby, pleading for his life while he shoots a kid dead.. LOSER,,,

[ieoeja]

51. Oh, come on? Who has not shouted out, "oh, God, man, please don't kill me" ...

... while in a fist fight. Have you ever participated/witnessed a fight ni which that did not happen?

I mean, maybe were I unarmed and faced with gun I might, I dunno, say "dude, you have gun, so fuck off and watch me beat you to death, mother-fucker!".

But were I carrying a gun against a teenager? Oh, yeah. I would definitely cry like a baby and plead that he not kill me so I would not be forced to kill him.

[NaturalHigh]

12. I got flamed for saying that today.

Do people not get that juries have to follow the law?

[William769]

15. You still here?

Damn! Someone must be asleep at the wheel.

[HiPointDem]

16. bullshit

[LittleBlue]

17. I said the same

Even though some prison time would have been just, the prosecution never came close to satisfying the burden of proof.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

18. Go fuck yourself,

you miserable piece of shit.

[morningfog]

22. What do you expect from a proud dog killer?

[backwoodsbob]

69. I promise you

if it was your child on that hill with that monster dog....

[stranger81]

33. I second that motion. [ n/t]

[NuclearDem]

35. If I have to sit on a jury for that, I'm going to proudly let it stand.

[MADem]

76. If you post in a thread, you are precluded from sitting on a jury for any post in that thread.

Just FYI.

[lonestarnot]

36. Neener fucking neener. Leave it alone!

[2ndAmForComputers]

40. Do you have the jury results? PLEASE SHARE!

[pa28]

48. Results

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Clearly a personal attack in violation of DU rules.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:59 AM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Jury nullification.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[ieoeja]

52. Bob + 2 makes 3?

Actually, I might have voted hide because, as horribly disgusting celebrating Trayvon's death may be, I might have still voted to hide the insult of those celebrating it.

I am so glad that I have been absolutely swamped at work the past couple weeks. I almost NEVER post on weekends, but I am now because I have hardly touched DU the past two weeks. And horribly when I have, it has been like reading Storm Front or some such disgusting site.

If there is not a massive purge ... I might as well go to some neutral site to read Rightists debating us using the impeccable logic that a past-present participle is not the exact same as a future, pluperfect participle.

Ha! Got us on that one! I mean, it's not like 100% of the people reading the statement knew exactly what was meant. There was a slilght technical inaccuracy. Like "high capacity magazine" does not equal "high capacity clip" to the gunners.

[morningfog]

46. Hahaha. It is within community standards to tell bob to fuck himself.

It is the backwoods bob exception, lol. He's worked hard to earn that.

[Nevernose]

61. ROFLMAO

One of the few times recently that I've totally laughed my as off.

[flvegan]

104. This should be able to be used as case law. lol

[Quantess]

110. That's amazing!

I guess the jury didn't like backwoodsbob very much.

[bobduca]

38. I second (fifth) that emotion.

[The Midway Rebel]

82. Now, THIS is justice!

LOL. GFY Bob!

[Gemini Cat]

89. + 1,000,000!

[darkangel218]

103. +1

[billh58]

105. Took the words

right out of my mouth. Celebrating a state-sanctioned murder is so predictably Gungeon-like behavior.

[Paladin]

109. Bravo and encore! Thanks. (nt)

[morningfog]

21. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word.

jus·tice [juhs-tis]
noun
1. the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness.

Do you still want to claim justice has been served?

[EOTE]

99. Yes, along with all the other Zimmy apologists who insist justice was served.

They know very well what they're saying, they just feel that the legal system gives them cover to express their racism. They're saying "See, the law agrees with me, I can't be a racist! Justice was done!" They're gleeful in their celebration. It's utterly disgusting.

[mstinamotorcity2]

26. It doesn't matter.

Their is a dead child with no one held accountable. There was never a chance of Zimmerman going to jail when you see there had to be a protest just to get a day in court. Children of color just will never be safe in America.

[dsc]

37. No a bad law was served today

which is a big difference. Self defense is, and should be, an affirmative defense. It should have to be proven by the asserter, not disproven by the state.

[sabbat hunter]

39. Justice was served

but they got it wrong IMHO.

But we have to live with what our justice system is. Trial by jury, innocent until convicted.


I would not bet against a federal civil rights case being brought against zimmerman.

[NoOneMan]

41. Justice doesn't exist

Its a tired, transparent notion designed to keep the masses down and let them feel empowered occasionally

[chieftain]

42. Congratulations. I hope you enjoy your gloating.

This was an eminently winnable case for the prosecution. I'm a lawyer and i was appalled about their incompetence.

[Kali]

47. wrong

the technicalities of the law were followed, but that was not justice.

[Art_from_Ark]

50. Between this post and the one where you are eagerly waiting for 4 DUers

to go into self-imposed exile because they had bet you that Zimmerman would be found guilty, you have really hit bottom, guy.

[BainsBane]

53. +1

[UtahLib]

55. I am sad for you.

You have no control over what seems to be a disturbingly unattractive and natural impulse to gloat, once it takes hold.

[Ikonoklast]

57. Just be glad it wasn't your kid that got shot.

Bet you'd be saying something different.

[Nevernose]

60. Amen

N/t

[hay rick]

58. Not a whole lot of people gloating over this verdict...

Might be a good time to look in the mirror.

[HiPointDem]

59. bob needs to go back to the backwoods where he belongs

i wish the mods would send him there i can;t be the only one who's alerted on his multiple smarmy posts

[Gravitycollapse]

63. This thread should be locked and pinned for public shaming.

[Rex]

65. You guys?

Please bob, the jury makes a bad call and you pretend like you are now the only real fortune teller here on DU.

Puuulllezzz.

[rrneck]

66. I don't think justice was served.

It might be more fitting to say that justice was discharged.

[MH1]

72. The law may have been served. (if you agree with that.) NOT justice. nt.

[Warren Stupidity]

70. A jury voted 3-3 to allow du to be trolled over and over again. Nt.

[DCBob]

75. I was expecting a sarcasm tag..

unfortunately none was found.

[Brigid]

78. Justice was served? Really?

An unarmed kid, doing absolutely nothing wrong, was murdered by some creepy vigilante wannabe cop; and said creepy vigilante wannabe cop gets away with it. How is that justice?

[HardTimes99]

80. +Infinity! You have nailed it! - nt

[HardTimes99]

81. Justice was NOT served! Trayvon Martin had just as much right to

walk those streets FREE OF HARASSMENT as anyone else.

Trayvon Martin is dead but George Zimmerman is free. How in the fuck is that justice?

This case and verdict are causing me to question my beliefs in fundamental constitutional principles like trial by jury. The not-guilty verdict here runs so counter to my sense of what happened (self-appointed vigilante takes law into his own hands) that I know something is very wrong, fundamentally wrong.

If it isn't the trial by jury system, then what is making that huge stink I smell?

[Gemini Cat]

92. It wasn't justice served, it was a big steaming pile of shit served.

[JoePhilly]

83. A reasonable person should fear for their life when they see Zimmerman.

Whatever happens after that, is legal.

[arely staircase]

84. If the exact same evidence had been presented by the exact same prosecutors against the exact same

defense lawyers to the exact same jury, but the victim had been white and the defendant black, there would have been a 2nd degree murder conviction

[Blue_In_AK]

96. Exactly.

That should be crystal clear to any thinking individual.

[burnodo]

85. Justice was not served

The justice system served itself, but you can hardly say that justice has been done.

[Heddi]

86. you like to gloat

over killings...gloat over your killing of a dog, gloat over the murder of a child...you make me ashamed to be a South Carolinian from birth.

[Call Me Wesley]

90. And that's why you call yourself 'backwoodsbob'

instead of 'forwardwoodsbob.' Keep the tradition alive, I guess.

[morningfog]

93. I think he just misspelled his name.

It should be "backasswardsbob".

[Call Me Wesley]

94. Or that ...

[billh58]

106. Should be

BackwardsBob...

[Call Me Wesley]

108. That'll fit, too.

[geek tragedy]

97. Gun humpers fapping over a lynching.

Our 'gun enthusiasts' are a real charming lot.

[suffragette]

98. You left out the "in" -- "injustice was served"

[darkangel218]

102. I second Apophis. nt

[flvegan]

107. You don't really get what justice is, do you?

But then, there was that whole "I shot the family dog, wanna see pictures of it" thing you did, so...

[Chan790]

111. Some people called what happened to Emmett Till justice too.

Those people were full of shit.


People calling this "justice" are full of shit too.