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My take: in the end, Zimmerman grabbed a gun and approached Trayvon. That's not self defense, IMHO. (Original Post) grahamhgreen Jul 2013 OP
Agreed. It makes the most sense of the many stories. IdaBriggs Jul 2013 #1
Z-man thought he could go "mano-e-mano" with Martin KansDem Jul 2013 #2
 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
1. Agreed. It makes the most sense of the many stories.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jul 2013

I believe Trayvon was defending himself, not Zimmerman.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. Z-man thought he could go "mano-e-mano" with Martin
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:37 AM
Jul 2013

So he followed him and confronted him. They skirmished.

When he saw that Martin wasn't going to back down, he pulled his gun. Bad choice.

I do not want to diminish this tragedy, but I likened such fights to this scene from "Treasure of the Sierra Madre"



Barton McClain initiates a fight with Tim Holt and Humphrey Bogart. When he realizes he's losing, he concedes (1'49&quot . Fight is over. No one pulls a gun; no one is killed.

If Z-man realized his error and conceded, Martin would still be alive.
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