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HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Does it suck? Does it beg an argument? Is it effective?
aikoaiko
(34,213 posts)....is supposed to elicit.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)Why or how is AMBITION being punished?
I get why those people on the bottom should be punished, but why should SUCCESS be punished? Actually, I don't know who the guy on the right is, but my bad!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,617 posts)Who are the $55,212 and $184,361 people representing, and who is the guy on the bottom right (assuming that spread is his modest abode).
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)These I get:


Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I don't know why those people have numbers around their necks. I don't know who the suits are in the lower left. The corporate campus means nothing to me. No one's getting punished in a way I recognize. And why should success be punished?
Rework.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)OK . . . let me try and explain.
What this answers is the right wing meme that we somehow "punish success" in this country by "unfairly" taxing the wealthy and strangulating their businesses via regulation.
It's HORSESHIT.
We punish AMBITION in this country moreso than we "punish success". Anyone who's shuttered their businesses or been laid off during the last recession and has gone to college in the last 20 years will tell you that everything is being done to make "success" harder and harder to come by. We're fast becoming even less egalitarian than our Depression-era counterparts were.
People who are in the lower photos (1. Several bank CEOs brought before a playpen legislative committee and 2. Republican stalwart Michael Dell, who built that Golgothian mansion on the backs of underpaid workers and bad hardware) became successful thanks to far, FAR less roadblocks in life, and now they're pretty much building the moat and shoring up rules to favor corporations and the wealthy so that the people above (1. shot small businesses and 2. Screwn graduates, wearing their college debts around their necks . . . not really all that vague) CAN'T succeed.
Examples:
Hey, I want to start a business! Super. Your competition is WalMart and Amazon. Also, youll paying double FICO, benefits and taxes and the corporations have every distribution and cost advantage over you. Therell be more months where you make nothing than there will be weeks where you make something. Modern businesses are about finding particular niches and needs that are dwindling every year. Thats not a problem, is it? "But . . . but . . . how were you able to be a success??" "Oh, I . . . 'worked harder than you'. As for the rest, that's for me to know and you to never find out."
I need to get a degree so I can get a great start in life! Awesome. Thatll be $25,000-$150,000, depending on your career path.
I want to run for political office so I can change this corrupted system. "Heh heh heh . . . got at least $1,000,000 to get started? Oh, and if you . . . change anything . . . let's just say you'll be destroyed."
I'm not the one saying success should be punished . . . . but to say that the already-successful are playing by just rules and acting in the best interests of this country is really laughable. It's supposed to turn their meme against them. Conservatives are in a way correct . . . the supremely wealthy have failed us hand over fist, and are being rewarded hand over fist. Someone trying to get started? Punished from the outset.
It's like when conservatives say their "pro-life". NO. They're "pro-birth". They could give a shit what happens to life when you exit the womb.
I don't have faith in markets, invisible hands, the supposed benevolence of the people in the lower row, or even Capitalism itself. It's a ruinous system that appears to reward the already-successful whether they do a good job or not and punish the bright-eyed and ambitious.
