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[Erose999]

1. I've heard "man of color" and "people of color" used as inoffensive terms. She could have said much

worse.

[Horse with no Name]

38. Check out Juror B-76

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023254496#post11

[Berlum]

2. She was a juror of retarded soul development

All the honorable people agreed.

[Blue_Tires]

3. wow...

there may be much more context behind the comments, but at a glance she seems pretty fuckin' ignorant...

and I'm supposed to "respect" her decision-making process in a murder trial?

[postulater]

14. Sure! She was Zimmerman's peer. nt

[Spazito]

4. Gee, I guess her hatred of the media has turned to love now...

seeing how she is very happy to use the once-hated media to try and sell her upcoming book, to try and profit off the dead body of Trayvon Martin, the "boy of color".

[City Lights]

6. I know, right!?

Oh, the irony!

[Spazito]

12. Yep, it certainly tells me all I need to know about this juror and...

the agenda she brought with her into the jury room.

[avebury]

5. I really think that jurors should be banned from

financially profiting from a case they sit on for at least a set period of time, for example 5 years.

I have a major problem with them walking straight from the deliberation room to a publisher and signing a book deal. It tends to create credibility issues on the deliberations.

[SomethingFishy]

9. Oh this deal was made way before the trial was over...

Probably before it started... You don't come up with a verdict on Saturday and close a book deal on Monday. The deal was already in place.

[avebury]

13. I would have a major problem with that because

she would be talking about the trial outside of the court which is forbidden. The Judge should order an investigation of this.

[SomethingFishy]

16. I agree... Now after reading the article

I see that the book deal is not in place, she just signed with an agent. However this does not negate my statement, they had to be working on this from the time they found out she made the jury. Her and her lawyer husband saw dollar signs.

Plus, how the hell did she get on the jury? CCW permit and the "person of color" statement should have given the prosecutors a clue..

[marions ghost]

31. Agree

it was in the works.

[TorchTheWitch]

41. I think they should be banned from profiting period

It's a civic duty not a business proposition. I think it's an obvious credibility issue, and something they shouldn't be permitted so that it's avoided. No juror can be trusted in good faith that wants to be on a case because they have an interest in profiting off of it.

[Blackford]

7. She's already signed a book deal

http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/george-zimmerman-juror-to-write-book_b74138

[geek tragedy]

8. believes riots happened = gets her info from Fox News.

Gee, what a shocker that this old white lady who gave her stamp of approval to killing a black kid turned out to be a racist wingnut.

[Blackford]

10. She held a CCW, too

Fuck this jury was rigged!

[marions ghost]

33. Juries can be easily rigged

In jury selection when the jurors are picked, they ask them a lot of questions and select for the most gullible and least informed. Lawyers know how to profile them.

I am against juries, at least under the system as they are used.

[Rex]

11. I think she is full of shit.

Hates the media, doesn't read or watch the news BUT has no problem with a book deal or the media or the news promoting it! Yeah...I think we found out she is in it for the money and maybe already was before the trial began.

[Blackford]

15. Plus her mind was made up before she was seated

That 'boy of color' was obviously in the wrong because a guy with a CCW (like she and her husband) can't be bad.

Besides, they held 'riots' to force a trial in the first place.

[Rex]

18. Yes this is what we get with low information jurors

that already identify with the defense and have their mind made up before going to deliberate. Now I wonder if the other 5 will follow suit?

[Corgigal]

22. That is what she did

Can we prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Unlikely, but she probably lied to get on to the jury. Now will be making blood money on that young man's death. What a POS.

[Rex]

23. Sadly she won't be the first one or last one to do so imo.

And not just on this tragedy, others like here waiting for a chance to make blood money.

You are SPOT ON, it is blood money...how barbaric and totally unacceptable in a supposed civil society. Of course the NRA will make sure her book reaches #1 and for some reason I already envision it full of Foxnews & NRA talking points.

[Blackford]

17. I wonder what her Freeper name is? n/t

[stranger81]

26. Eggs-actly. [n/t]

[avebury]

19. People should contact Martin Literary Mangement

and let them know exactly what you think of this move on their part.

Sharlene Martin

[e-mail]

Phone [phone]

http://www.martinliterarymanagement.com/

[Spazito]

20. This is interesting, to say the least...

"The juror contacted Martin on Sunday, “referred by a high ranking producer at one of the morning shows.”"

Which high-ranking producer on which morning show? How did the 'high ranking producer' have knowledge of her identity if he/she was the one who contacted her or how did this juror have such ready access to the 'high ranking producer' almost immediately after the verdict if it was the juror or her 'attorney husband' who made the first contact.

Something smells very nasty here, imo.

[grasswire]

29. excellent points

I suppose in Sanford there is some general knowledge of who the jurors are. But this sounds as if a producer is egging this on with an agenda in mind. Exclusive interviews? Something is unusual, yes.

[Spazito]

39. I would very much like to know who this "high ranking producer" was...

and what, if any, connection he/she had with the juror or her 'attorney husband' such that immediate access was available either from the producer to the juror or the juror to the producer. All this happened between late Saturday night, after the verdict one would assume, and sometime Sunday.

[avaistheone1]

32. That does sound fishy. In addition this juror's husband is an attorney AND

he is writing the book with her (I suppose probably for her). This juror hates media, perhaps she hates books too.

I don't like juror's profiting off the death of victims, particularly juror's who choose to remain anonymous.

I wonder how much if any undue influence this woman had on the jury given her husband is an attorney...

[Spazito]

34. It certainly raises questions in my mind...

especially the immediate access either the "high ranking producer" had to the juror or the juror to the "high ranking producer", the referral by the producer and the subsequent discussions with Martin all occurred between late Saturday night, after the verdict one hopes, and sometime Sunday. Such access so quickly is, to say the least, unusual.

[Nye Bevan]

21. To be fair, Trayvon was 17 so he was certainly a "boy".

Referring to an adult black male as a "boy" is obviously horribly racist, but maybe not so much a 17-year old.

And the phrase "of color" is usually acceptable. "Colored boy" would have been much worse.

[Pelican]

24. Boy of color isn't racist...

Everyone has gone to extraordinary lengths to emphasize that Martin was a child legally.

As for the "of color" part, these guys seem to have no problem with it.

http://www.boysandmenofcolor.org/

[stranger81]

25. Unbelievable.

I didn't think it was possible for me to get more pissed off about this case. But yet, it is.

[noiretextatique]

27. i knew some of the jurors

would out themselves as racists. it happened faster than i thought.

[searchingforlight]

28. Knock, Knock

Reason #B37 to never visit Sanford, FL.

[LWolf]

30. I don't like the media myself.

Although I lean towards newspapers for what I get that's not online.

Still, there were many false notes; she just doesn't ring true in this clip. She was just trying too hard to convince the court of her ignorance.

[Cha]

35. CCW, and how did she think stupidly think there were "riots in Sanford" if

she didn't watch fucking fox "news"?

So, when we heard the verdict we had to wonder about these jurors.. and here it is. In all her sickening glory.

[JI7]

37. and the usuals still trying to defend this shit and say there is no racism

[vaberella]

36. Well I call myself a woman of color. n/t

[sheshe2]

40. "an unfortunate incident that happened."

That says it all.