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G_j

(40,570 posts)
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:05 AM Jul 2013

Moral Monday Arrests Top 800 in NC

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/politics&id=9172669


More than 100 arrested protesting North Carolina GOP actions

Monday, July 15, 2013
And Associated Press

RALEIGH -- Police say 101 people were arrested Monday after their singing and clapping protest outside the state Senate chamber was declared an unlawful assembly, in what has become a weekly demonstration against Republican initiatives.

More than two-thirds of those arrested were women, as organizers focused on women's rights while legislation that could close most of the state's abortion clinics nears a final vote. More than 800 people have been arrested at the Legislative Building in expressions of civil disobedience since the "Moral Monday" protests began in April.

Demonstrators lined up outside the Senate's shiny gold-colored doors to be arrested as law enforcement officers lined up to slip plastic cuffs over their wrists.

A bill requiring more stringent rules for abortion clinics and demands upon physicians who perform abortions passed the House last week. A Republican Senate leader said Tuesday lawmakers there will take their time to consider the measure. If senators go along, Republican Gov. Pat McCrory says he will sign it into law.

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Moral Monday Arrests Top 800 in NC (Original Post) G_j Jul 2013 OP
K G_j Jul 2013 #1
k/r marmar Jul 2013 #2
Cuffs are plastic now? musical_soul Jul 2013 #3
all the Democrats voted against it, that should tell you something, G_j Jul 2013 #4
It's obvious you have no idea of what goes on at Moral Monday marions ghost Jul 2013 #5
Another video you should see octoberlib Jul 2013 #7
Short videos from Moral Monday: marions ghost Jul 2013 #6
Thanks for the videos!! johnnyreb Jul 2013 #8
thank you for the song! marions ghost Jul 2013 #10
nice G_j Jul 2013 #11
800 arrests woo me with science Jul 2013 #9

musical_soul

(775 posts)
3. Cuffs are plastic now?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:46 AM
Jul 2013

That takes the fun out of everything. lol.


Okay, I'd have see the protests to see what happened. It does sound like a lot of them might have went where they knew they weren't supposed to go in order to get arrested. I used to be an activist, so I know the tricks about that stuff. The trick is to go where you shouldn't go, get arrested, and then get sympathy for your cause. I won't personally condemn that since it's not violent.

However, I also remember back in my activist days when some of the more extreme people would purposely piss off the cops to try to get them to lash out at everybody. Then, they could cry victimhood when they got arrested. I doubt that was all 800 of them. I'd like to know for certain it was actually 800 people who got arrested. That sounds high. If they did get arrested, then I doubt most of them will stay in jail. Raleigh can't hold them.

Now, about these rules. Wasn't the purpose of RvW to make abortion safer for women? Shouldn't clinics be held up to the same standards as other surgery centers? What would be the problem with a doctor being there the entire time of the abortion? I think a lot of these clinics that shut down might very well open back up when they get all the standards up to date.

G_j

(40,570 posts)
4. all the Democrats voted against it, that should tell you something,
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jul 2013

• A prohibition on abortion insurance coverage in any health care plan offered to state residents through the Affordable Care Act, except in cases of rape, incest or danger to the life of the mother.

• An expansion of protection to health-care workers to refuse to perform abortions on ethical or religious grounds.

Other provisions in the bill would stop local governments from covering abortion in their employee benefit plans. Currently, each city and county can decide what benefits to offer its employees.

“If this were to become law, … those (city or county) health plans could not have coverage on abortions that was different or greater than what the state health plan provides,” said Paul Meyer, director of governmental affairs for the League of Municipalities.

The state plan pays for abortion only in cases of rape, incest or danger to the mother’s life.

The league does not have a position on the bill, but the county commissioners’ association said the legislature should let commissioners make decisions about employee health insurance.

“It’s really an issue of local autonomy, local decision-making,” said Todd McGee, communications director for the N.C. Association of County Commissioners.

The bill also requires doctors to be present when a woman takes pills to induce abortion. Women take two medications a few days apart. Women usually take the second at home and return to the doctor for a follow-up visit.

In 2011, the most recent year for which data are available, 23.4 percent of the 26,192 abortions done in North Carolina were drug-induced, while 75.1 percent were from surgical procedures.

At least nine states have laws requiring doctors be present when women take pills inducing abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

“When these bills have been floated around in other states, they have the effect of inhibiting choice and eliminating choice,” said Senate Minority Leader Martin Nesbitt, an Asheville Democrat.

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Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/07/03/3007643/opponents-of-nc-abortion-bill.html#storylink=cpy

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
5. It's obvious you have no idea of what goes on at Moral Monday
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jul 2013

--there have been no extreme incidents. The 850 arrested are unique (no repeats) arrests over 11 consecutive Mondays. The participants are schooled in non-violent civil disobedience and they follow those rules. It is extremely well organized and documented. Please understand what is going on in NC before making assumptions that it is like the negatives that you remember.

See this thread, which gives an accurate picture of what goes on at Moral Monday:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014538616

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
9. 800 arrests
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jul 2013


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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