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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:10 PM Jul 2013

E-Verify mandate: A 'pain in the neck' for Main Street

As President Barack Obama called on the House to pass a comprehensive immigration bill, which includes expanded employment verification rules, you could have heard an audible groan from some small-business owners.

An immigration measure passed by the Senate last month would have far-reaching effects on Americans looking for work and on employers seeking to hire them.

Some smaller companies say that meeting employment verification requirements would be costly and add to their uncertainty, which has hampered job creation. The bipartisan bill that cleared the Senate says that within five years all employers must use the system called E-Verify to check the legal work eligibility of every job candidate, including U.S. citizens.

"We expect it to be a significant fixed cost," said J. Kelly Conklin, president of an architectural woodworking firm in Bloomfield, N.J. "It's going to be a complete pain in the neck."

A small business would likely pay about $3,000 or less to meet E-Verify rules, according to an estimate from Jeff Vining, an analyst at tech research firm Gartner. Vining's ballpark estimate includes dedicated equipment, software and payroll system modifications.


http://www.today.com/money/e-verify-mandate-pain-neck-main-street-6C10669674

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E-Verify mandate: A 'pain in the neck' for Main Street (Original Post) The Straight Story Jul 2013 OP
Sounds like a fucking racket to me Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #1
We didn't have any costs associated with E-verify... Phentex Jul 2013 #2
That's what I thought sharp_stick Jul 2013 #3
I will answer myself after googling... Phentex Jul 2013 #4
And we heard the same about I-9 forms. Igel Jul 2013 #5
Those start-up costs are grossly misrepresented … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #6

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
1. Sounds like a fucking racket to me
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jul 2013

To pad the profits of some electronics company, or maybe even the whole thing will be privately run.

It's a lot more than a 'pain in the neck' for truly small business people who manage to have an employee or three. What the fuck. More squeezing out the little people.

Phentex

(16,709 posts)
2. We didn't have any costs associated with E-verify...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:18 PM
Jul 2013

Dedicated equipment? Software? We log into a website and click. I am not sure what Gartner is referring to.

Phentex

(16,709 posts)
4. I will answer myself after googling...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:26 PM
Jul 2013

I always forget the definition of small business could mean hundreds/thousands of employees.

Googling stated this:

$1,254 to $24,422: The average first-year startup costs for running E-Verify per small business. The average cost for running E-Verify per small business after the first year is $435. First-year costs include the cost to take time from work to sign the appropriate memorandum of understanding with the government, review contracts and the 80-page field guide, and start verifying all of your employees. From then on employers only have to put new hires through the system.


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The cost to our company: about an hour's time. In any case, we did not have to buy any equipment or software.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
5. And we heard the same about I-9 forms.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:53 PM
Jul 2013

That it would be difficult, time consuming, costly.

In fact it was neither. Nor was it very effective. But it did take up room in the filing cabinet.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. Those start-up costs are grossly misrepresented …
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jul 2013

It’s like claiming thousands of dollars for “start-up cost” whenever an employer changes payroll systems or insurance carriers or has employees sign off on new training or policies.

No these “small employers” are grousing because once e-Verify is mandated, they can no longer hire (easily) undocumented workers … and once that pool dries up, they will be forced to pay prevailing wages (and taxes on those wages) since threats to call immigration will no longer be effective to keep the workers quiet.

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