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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:24 PM Jul 2013

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) RobertEarl Jul 2013 OP
Says who? zappaman Jul 2013 #1
There was a time on DU RobertEarl Jul 2013 #8
Still waiting... zappaman Jul 2013 #14
zappaman keeps files on DU members? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #15
Of course! zappaman Jul 2013 #35
No files are needed for common knowledge. pintobean Jul 2013 #53
The Monkees!!! DevonRex Jul 2013 #18
Finally an answer!!!! zappaman Jul 2013 #34
They know where you are going, too. HappyMe Jul 2013 #36
Well, you made me a believer! zappaman Jul 2013 #42
Our govt does (nt) The Straight Story Jul 2013 #47
I'm Free! Whisp Jul 2013 #52
FREE to BE me! zappaman Jul 2013 #54
Free to Be..... HappyMe Jul 2013 #61
And if you get some idea about organizing resistance to something they really want to do, woo me with science Jul 2013 #2
Oh please! It's not EVERYONE. If you' re someone who enables the Totalitarian Surveillance truedelphi Jul 2013 #3
Actually, I bet they have one on her. BIG. Hydra Jul 2013 #31
Reminds me (in an odd way) of a late eighties movie starring Keanu Reeves... Electric Monk Jul 2013 #4
Yes, it's called your Social Security file, with your entire employment history. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #5
Who are you? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #9
"Go ahead, tell us all about this geek tragedy name you are hiding behind. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #10
Figures RobertEarl Jul 2013 #12
I answered your question, and you respond with such hostility. Horrendous breach geek tragedy Jul 2013 #13
I've got your file right here pintobean Jul 2013 #60
Sacre bleu! nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #68
Be afraid. Be very afraid. randome Jul 2013 #6
Take action? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #11
Yeah! zappaman Jul 2013 #16
'Cheap shots'. I call 'em like I see 'em. randome Jul 2013 #19
TPTB want you to think that posting on-line is activism -- but it really isn't struggle4progress Jul 2013 #20
It's feeding the database, giving even more points of info to be cross-referenced Electric Monk Jul 2013 #24
I would say JACKPOT! Smell the law$uit. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #7
F.B.I. has had a file on me since 1983! William769 Jul 2013 #17
I wish I had an existence sufficiently intersting to draw that kind of attention. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #21
Get a Job in State Government (especially Law Enforcement) William769 Jul 2013 #22
I didn't know that. That's quite a perk. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #26
Well if you ever go through the interview process William769 Jul 2013 #30
What? You'd sue for 2 dollars worth of royalty? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #25
I'm gonna love the response to this one. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #27
With age comes wisdom (at least thats how it's supposed to work). William769 Jul 2013 #29
Okay. HappyMe Jul 2013 #23
Oh no. sagat Jul 2013 #28
The Russell Tice videos on YouTube... just watching now. nenagh Jul 2013 #32
I'd recommend a little skepticism, though. randome Jul 2013 #41
Well I'm Canadian and so I'm designated as a foreigner. nenagh Jul 2013 #44
Not to mention that you're...CANADIAN! randome Jul 2013 #49
I saw yours on the internet yesterday Progressive dog Jul 2013 #33
Mine will elicit this reaction: Brigid Jul 2013 #37
BS. I wrote for my files and they had zip nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #38
My government file began when they recorded my birth down at the court house. FarCenter Jul 2013 #39
I hear they even issue a card with your name and a uniquely identifying number. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #40
I used to issue those numbers! So you know they have a file on me, too! randome Jul 2013 #43
and they know how much money you make, where you work. Whisp Jul 2013 #55
I hear they even read my tweets! AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #59
Probibly several.. Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #45
OMG!!! I just KNEW I shouldn't have gotten that driver's license. DevonRex Jul 2013 #46
and the colour of your eyes! Whisp Jul 2013 #50
Ha! I fooled them, then. DevonRex Jul 2013 #57
At least they allow you to guesstimate your weight. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #62
As long as they don't know my date of birth... zappaman Jul 2013 #51
Drama Much? Whisp Jul 2013 #48
You think this is a joke? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #58
the forefathers were bigoted racist sexist assholes. Whisp Jul 2013 #64
NO! The forefathers would limit the amount of files they kept. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #67
The government has had a file on for 40 years liberal N proud Jul 2013 #56
And that one has exposed the whole shebang RobertEarl Jul 2013 #63
pfft - they have had a file on me since college and protesting Viet war. hollysmom Jul 2013 #65
Choice: Police State or Democracy Octafish Jul 2013 #66
Here is the original OP RobertEarl Jul 2013 #69

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
1. Says who?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jul 2013

BeFree to tell us!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. There was a time on DU
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jul 2013

When one could be free. Those were the good old days.

I see you have been keeping a file on members here?

So you are a fine example of the problems we shall all face one day, when someone such as you gets a hold of someone's file and use it in their stupid game.

Thanks for showing up and showing the truth via an everyday example.

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
14. Still waiting...
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jul 2013

Says who?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
15. zappaman keeps files on DU members?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jul 2013

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
35. Of course!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jul 2013

They are all in here...

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
53. No files are needed for common knowledge.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jul 2013

Citizens of the world, it's all about the future.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
18. The Monkees!!!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013
&feature=youtube_gdata_player

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
34. Finally an answer!!!!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jul 2013

Don't we all?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
36. They know where you are going, too.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jul 2013

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
42. Well, you made me a believer!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jul 2013

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
47. Our govt does (nt)
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jul 2013
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
52. I'm Free!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jul 2013

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
54. FREE to BE me!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:07 PM
Jul 2013

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
61. Free to Be.....
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jul 2013

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. And if you get some idea about organizing resistance to something they really want to do,
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jul 2013

they may use it.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
3. Oh please! It's not EVERYONE. If you' re someone who enables the Totalitarian Surveillance
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jul 2013

State and who enriches the coffers of the MIC, you certainly do not have such a file, or you have the file confiscated and burned.

Di Feinstein comes to mind, as being someone who doesn't have such a file.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
31. Actually, I bet they have one on her. BIG.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jul 2013

You could label all this spying as "just in case."

Even the President has one. Can have him going all "constitutional" on them.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
4. Reminds me (in an odd way) of a late eighties movie starring Keanu Reeves...
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jul 2013
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Yes, it's called your Social Security file, with your entire employment history.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:36 PM
Jul 2013

Also, the IRS has another one on you, with your entire employment and your entire financial history.

More anti-government moonbattery.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. Who are you?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jul 2013

You sit there and cast out names all the while confirming the validity of the OP.

What is your game? You get your cookies being anti-freedom and anti-privacy? What is it with you?

Why don't you show us your file? What? You want privacy? What are you hiding? Go ahead, tell us all about this geek tragedy name you are hiding behind. Otherwise you are just being a crude hypocrite.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. "Go ahead, tell us all about this geek tragedy name you are hiding behind.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jul 2013

Otherwise you are just being a crude hypocrite."

Okay, I'm a complete geek in real life, and thought this username would be a mildly clever play on words, though there's a very compelling case to be made that it's not at all clever.

I get my cookies when my wife bakes.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. Figures
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:00 PM
Jul 2013

What are you hiding? You sit there and make fun of people who want their privacy, but when given the chance to let it all out, you squirm away?

Hypocrisy, is the real tragedy!!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. I answered your question, and you respond with such hostility. Horrendous breach
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jul 2013

of etiquette on your part.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
60. I've got your file right here
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jul 2013
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
68. Sacre bleu! nt
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jul 2013
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jul 2013

Or take actions against the things you know about. There's always that option.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. Take action?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jul 2013

WTF you think most here are doing? They are standing up for their rights and their privacy, all the while certain random posters take their cheap-shots.

Why don't you tell us who you are hiding behind that randome name? What are you afraid of, randome?

Oh wait, no, you want your privacy? Of course you do, who doesn't? So why all the cheap-shots from you?

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
16. Yeah!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

I wonder if he has more than one user name at DU!!!!
Wouldn't that be ironic???

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. 'Cheap shots'. I call 'em like I see 'em.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013

Show me how my privacy's been violated? And use something besides Edward Snowden's evidence-less claims, please. Or what could happen or what 'they' might be doing.

My privacy is still mine. If the NSA needs to be reigned in, I'm all in. But I'm not going to panic until I see evidence other than Ed ("I'm not here to hide from justice&quot Snowden.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

struggle4progress

(126,101 posts)
20. TPTB want you to think that posting on-line is activism -- but it really isn't
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
24. It's feeding the database, giving even more points of info to be cross-referenced
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jul 2013
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
7. I would say JACKPOT! Smell the law$uit.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jul 2013

William769

(59,147 posts)
17. F.B.I. has had a file on me since 1983!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013

If they have any pictures of me in my private life, I hope they enjoy them (many and I do mean many in compromising positions).

If they were to ever release them I would sue for royalties! I could always use the extra income.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. I wish I had an existence sufficiently intersting to draw that kind of attention. nt
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

William769

(59,147 posts)
22. Get a Job in State Government (especially Law Enforcement)
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jul 2013

Interesting or not, you'll get a file.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
26. I didn't know that. That's quite a perk. nt
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jul 2013

William769

(59,147 posts)
30. Well if you ever go through the interview process
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jul 2013

I wouldn't necessarily call it a perk, it's more like a colonoscopy.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
25. What? You'd sue for 2 dollars worth of royalty?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jul 2013

Not everyone may be as clean as you. Have you ever considered that there are some who are different from you and consider their privacy to be important? Now if privacy is just a joke to you, just forget this reply.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. I'm gonna love the response to this one. nt
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jul 2013

William769

(59,147 posts)
29. With age comes wisdom (at least thats how it's supposed to work).
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jul 2013

If you don't understand that, just forget this reply.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
23. Okay.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jul 2013

If they do, I'm sure they are bored to tears with it.

sagat

(241 posts)
28. Oh no.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jul 2013

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
32. The Russell Tice videos on YouTube... just watching now.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jul 2013

Very interesting.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
41. I'd recommend a little skepticism, though.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013

He last worked for the NSA in 2005 and every year he makes new allegations. Those facts make me a little suspicious of what he says.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
44. Well I'm Canadian and so I'm designated as a foreigner.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jul 2013
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
49. Not to mention that you're...CANADIAN!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jul 2013

Kidding! Kidding! Really.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

Progressive dog

(7,598 posts)
33. I saw yours on the internet yesterday
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jul 2013

but mine is boring, so the release date hasn't been set yet.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
37. Mine will elicit this reaction:
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jul 2013

flamingdem

(40,879 posts)
38. BS. I wrote for my files and they had zip nt
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jul 2013
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
39. My government file began when they recorded my birth down at the court house.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jul 2013
 

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)
40. I hear they even issue a card with your name and a uniquely identifying number.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
43. I used to issue those numbers! So you know they have a file on me, too!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jul 2013

Oh, dear me.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
55. and they know how much money you make, where you work.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

F.U.C.K.!!!


Eddie, Eddie heeeeeeeeeelp!

 

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)
59. I hear they even read my tweets!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jul 2013


One cannot even announce criminal activity to 1,000s of people anymore without the government butting in!

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
45. Probibly several..
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jul 2013

IRS, US Navy, FBI, NSA, Dept of Labor (maybe), and I should have been mentioned in a report to the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
46. OMG!!! I just KNEW I shouldn't have gotten that driver's license.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jul 2013

Now they know where I live!!!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
50. and the colour of your eyes!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jul 2013

my gawd, maybe there is something to this Snowden stuff.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
57. Ha! I fooled them, then.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:10 PM
Jul 2013

Not even I can tell the color of my eyes. Bwahaha!!

 

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)
62. At least they allow you to guesstimate your weight.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jul 2013

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
51. As long as they don't know my date of birth...
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jul 2013
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
48. Drama Much?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jul 2013

You been thinking about Eddie & Glennie too much.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
58. You think this is a joke?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jul 2013

The replies here really show what a sad country we have become. Anyone wanting privacy is to be laughed at? Made to appear to be drunk or otherwise incapacitated?

The forefathers probably wish they had just said fuck it, screw those assholes. ""We gave up our lives and fortunes for people who are making a joke of the constitution?""

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
64. the forefathers were bigoted racist sexist assholes.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jul 2013
 

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)
67. NO! The forefathers would limit the amount of files they kept.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jul 2013

For example, they'd only keep three-fifths of a file on African Americans.

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
56. The government has had a file on for 40 years
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

Required for security clearance.

Obviously the didn't have enough information on one specific former intelligence agent turncoat.


 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
63. And that one has exposed the whole shebang
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jul 2013

Which places everyone in peril. Thanks for the confirmation of just how dangerous having files really is.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
65. pfft - they have had a file on me since college and protesting Viet war.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jul 2013

How do I know, I applied for a government job and they told me.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
66. Choice: Police State or Democracy
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:17 PM
Jul 2013

Can't be both, as those who've read Bertram Gross are aware.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Friendly_Fascism_BGross.html

Brave post, Robert Earl. Interesting responses from a COINTELPRO POV, too.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
69. Here is the original OP
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jul 2013

( Due to the stupid first subthread, I am deleting this thread. That and the people making a joke of your privacy.)

Yes it does. Somewhere they have a file of all the info they have collected on you.

Every day they add something to your file. It may have false info or it may all be true. Then one day, someone in the government may release that file to the world. Say, posts it on the internet.

What would you say then? Would you finally say enough spying?

That day is coming, the way things are going. Be prepared. Or fight it now, before your file grows.

As you may read, many posters here think the government having a file all about your life, the money you spent, the phone calls you made, everything, is just a big joke to them. Which goes to show just how controlled the people have become. It is a sad place we are all in. Expect no privacy, because fellow Americans consider your privacy to be just a big joke.

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