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dkf

(37,305 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 12:30 PM Jul 2013

Never-before-seen GIANT virus found that's so unusual it may have come from Mars

Scientists have found a new virus thought to be the biggest ever seen on Earth.

The virus, dubbed Pandoravirus, is one micrometre big - up to ten times the size of other viruses - and only six per cent of its genes resemble anything seen on Earth before.

This has led French researchers to believe the virus may have come from an ancient time or even another planet, such as Mars.

However, the researchers, who published their findings in the journal Science, believe that the virus opens up a range of questions about the history of life on Earth.

Dr Jean-Michel Claverie of Aix-Marseille University in France, who found the virus, told NPR: ‘We believe that these new Pandoraviruses have emerged from a new ancestral cellular type that no longer exists.’

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Dr Claverie explained that because the virus is very big and lacks the regular shape normally associated with viruses, he initially thought it was a small bacterium.

His team went on a hunt for giant viruses after a survey identified signs of them in seawater.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2370100/Scientists-GIANT-Pandoravirus-come-alien-planet.html#ixzz2ZbUB2QAU

I admit when I first saw the title of the article I found it hilarious but the info sounds intriguing. And yes it's the daily mail...nuff said.

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Never-before-seen GIANT virus found that's so unusual it may have come from Mars (Original Post) dkf Jul 2013 OP
The New York Times has an article about this, too RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #1
Fascinating!!! It's amazing how much we still do not know. dkf Jul 2013 #2
They come in peace. Or DO THEY?????!!!!! DirkGently Jul 2013 #3
Lol dkf Jul 2013 #4
They said they are here to serve man. BlueJazz Jul 2013 #27
With a nice Chianti and fava beans? Aerows Jul 2013 #33
The REALLY predatory giant viruses are a bit more subtle pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #39
LMAO! Aerows Jul 2013 #40
How would we survive... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #43
We wouldn't Aerows Jul 2013 #44
I imagine Mars came up this way... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #5
LOL yep. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #6
. randome Jul 2013 #7
The Daily Mail's crack reporter! pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #8
That man is a freak. Apparently during that entire series he never once kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #9
Must have been the humidity in the studio. Or maybe a viral infection. randome Jul 2013 #11
I wonder where the viral infection might have come from. Hmmm... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #12
God only knows what lurks in that guy's hair! An entire B-movie universe. randome Jul 2013 #13
It's the aliens Tree-Hugger Jul 2013 #36
Well, the 27th time should be probative. :) nt pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #37
Lol, that's "journalism" for ya RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #16
It is not giant, it is merely big-boned. FSogol Jul 2013 #10
I, for one, welcome our new Pandoravirus Overlords Berlum Jul 2013 #14
They come bearing ancient knowledge. And fruit pies. DirkGently Jul 2013 #23
More likely it was once a bacteria or other single celled organism, which became a parasite FarCenter Jul 2013 #15
The Daily Mail reporter knows all about that stuff from a documentary he saw once... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #17
I think you have that backwards Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #21
Oh, what could possibly go wrong.... Matariki Jul 2013 #18
Now, if there was just a way to weaponize them... rugger1869 Jul 2013 #19
Oh, I thought they meant this guy Rex Jul 2013 #20
I tend to think that small viruses are scarier than big ones Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #22
This article isn't asking you to be scared of them at all NoOneMan Jul 2013 #26
It doesn't have to Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #28
ok, yeah, but thats not even the point NoOneMan Jul 2013 #29
Absolutely agree Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #30
Even Evangelical Republicans? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #31
Yes, like a train wreck Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #32
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #24
Mars, eh? Now that's Science! MineralMan Jul 2013 #25
Been nice knowing y'all. tabasco Jul 2013 #34
well, you know what they say... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #35
Mars, LOL? I think not! pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #38
... pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #41
We already have a vaccine for that HolyMoley Jul 2013 #42

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
1. The New York Times has an article about this, too
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

Nothing about mars though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/science/changing-view-on-viruses-not-so-small-after-all.html?_r=0

Interesting that they have gone so long without being noticed, although they seem to be everywhere?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
43. How would we survive...
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jul 2013

...if we couldn't have some fun here along the way?

It's always a pleasure dancing with you, my friend.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. I imagine Mars came up this way...
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jul 2013

"Journalist": Doctor, could this virus have come from Mars?

Researcher: We have no evidence that would indicate its origin.

"Journalist": So you're not ruling out Mars, then...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. .
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jul 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Must have been the humidity in the studio. Or maybe a viral infection.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jul 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. God only knows what lurks in that guy's hair! An entire B-movie universe.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jul 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
15. More likely it was once a bacteria or other single celled organism, which became a parasite
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

There is lots of stuff, like mitochondria, chloroplasts, and other organelles in eukaryotic cells which appear to have been single celled organisms in the past. They became symbionts in other cells.

These may have become parasites.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
21. I think you have that backwards
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:15 PM
Jul 2013

viruses are less complex than bacteria, so it would have to devolve to have been a bacteria first.

Where is the evidence of symbiosis in this case?

ETA: Oh, I see what you mean, I think

The genome of the virus includes typical NCLDV core genes and genes apparently obtained from eukaryotic hosts and their parasites or symbionts, both bacterial and viral, through probably horizontal gene transfer mechanism.


and:

http://www.pnas.org/content/106/51/21848

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
22. I tend to think that small viruses are scarier than big ones
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jul 2013

It's the little guys I worry about. At least big ones can be physically filtered out from stuff like water.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
29. ok, yeah, but thats not even the point
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jul 2013

The point is that this is a fascinating and unique form of life that has been previously overlooked.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
32. Yes, like a train wreck
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:11 PM
Jul 2013

I didn't say I like all life forms, just that they fascinate me. And some deserve to be dissected to try to understand.

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