Actor James Woods says Obama's Trayvon Martin statement not sufficient --"The race issues in America

[AnotherMcIntosh]

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that have bedeviled this nation for decades could be greatly resolved with JOBS and EDUCATION and SKILLS TRAINING.”

"And one more, from the actor:

“Racial integration has worked in the Armed Forces because everyone has a job ...”

If Woods keeps this up, he'll probably think that it is racist to destroy manufacturing-job-opportunities in the major cities by shipping manufacturing jobs to and keeping manufacturing jobs in foreign countries.

Woods may not know that the DOW is at an all-time peak and all that is needed is more time when everyone (except in foreign countries) is going to be employed in service jobs.


Edited to add:

The origional post was found on Google News. The first link at that time led to washingtontimes, a web site which I am now informed is a Moonie or rw web site. Maybe it is.

At this point in time, however, Google News indicates that the story is being covered by "2554 news sources."

To eliminate the it's-a-Moonie-or-right-wing-web-site-source objections, the origional links have been removed and the Newsmax link now found at the top of Google News is here
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/James-Woods-Obama-Trayvon/2013/07/21/id/516195

If that is too offensive for some tastes, they can look (or not) at the other 2553 news sources. Apparently, Woods has now said that he will not Twitter about political issues again. Some have said that his concerns about employment should not be considered because he is a right-winger of some sort. To the extent that he is a right-winger of any sort, it seems "Even a broken clock ..."

[hrmjustin]

1. James woods is still around?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

3. Yes. He, Sean Penn, and a few other still think that manufacturing jobs are needed in our cities.

What do they know?

[hrmjustin]

6. I was not commenting on his opinions.

I have not seen him in a long time.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

9. Got it. Thanks.

[NoOneMan]

19. Cities don't need manufacturing jobs?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

24. According to 3rd-Wayers, manufacturing jobs are not needed in the cities.

[BainsBane]

154. Yes, he's busy dating barely legal girls

I could care less what he thinks.

[leftstreet]

2. Well, he's got a point n/t

[NoOneMan]

18. I thought so too

Not sure why everyone is jumping down his throat

[snappyturtle]

151. +1

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

4. Never heard of him and I sure don't read RW rags like The Washington Times...

A newspaper Ed Henry quotes often during the WH pressers.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

7. You never heard of him? Then he must be wrong.

[datasuspect]

5. minstrelsy was still popular entertainment up until the 1950s.

the racism in this country is profound, generational, systematic, and embedded in the psyche of most Uhhhhhhmericans.

you can't change centuries of hatred in 60 years.

you can start to, but there is a lot of work to still do.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

8. I think that he's calling for more jobs, not more "minstrelsy".

[datasuspect]

11. cf. my point about Uhhhhhhhhhhhhmericans

you've just illustrated my spelling of Americans.

I'm talking about racism in general.

The actor is talking about racism and what he thinks the solution might be.

I mentioned the popularity of minstrelsy up until somewhat very recently to support the claim that racism is INDEED a major problem.



I cannot for the life of me believe I just had to explain this to you.

oy.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

17. I, for one, think that it is racist to ship manufacturing jobs from our cities where Black Americans

were employed to foreign countries to benefit the rich and the super-rich.

As far as I know, minstrelsy refers to caricaturing Blacks by White actors who wore blackface while doing so. Also, as far as I know, James Woods, although an actor, has never worn blackface to caricature Black Americans or has ever caricatured Black Americans in any other way. If I'm mistaken, please tell me.

[datasuspect]

25. WOOSH

you need to read more.

you do understand that you can have parallel commentary about ideas?

i'm not speaking to the comments you've attributed to woods, I'm speaking about the nature of Uhhhhhhhmerican racism in general - making an observation.

it's commentary about your commentary.

say, for example, someone says that granny smith apples are excellent for baking pies.

someone might say something about another type of apple that is good for baking, possibly confections.

when educated people converse, they introduce other ideas to draw parallels, or to make comparisons, or to show where an idea is missing something.



again, i cannot and DO NOT want to believe that you are this dense, that i have explain this to you.

but i find myself explaining this to you.

amazing.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

31. Granny Smith apples are excellent for baking pies?

[Raffi Ella]

20. oh, I can.

See, the point of the OP is that not only is Obama to blame for no jobs but that Trayvon Martin is guilty in own murder because blacks are out of work unskilled and uneducated and THAT is the problem here, not racism, silly!

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at this disgusting right wing trollery. So blatant it's not even to be believed.

[datasuspect]

29. there is merit to the idea that educational opportunity and job opportunities

coupled with pathways into the middle class USED to ameliorate generational poverty.

but those pathways are largely nonexistent now.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

30. That's a false statement.

Nowhere in the OP it is claimed or even suggested that "Obama to blame for no jobs."

Nowhere in the OP it is claimed or even suggested that "Trayvon Martin is guilty in own murder" or that "Trayvon Martin is guilty in own murder blacks are out of work unskilled and uneducated and THAT is the problem here."

[Raffi Ella]

36. Of course you did!

Actor James Woods says Obama's Trayvon Martin statement not sufficient --"The race issues in America
that have bedeviled this nation for decades could be greatly resolved with JOBS and EDUCATION and SKILLS TRAINING.”


It's all right there. And when people went to racism instead of blasting the President you reiterated your point. The rag this is written on coupled with who James Woods is? ha, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out your angle.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

44. No. That's a false statment. Re-read #30.

[Spazito]

10. James Woods and the Washington Times, a perfect fit...

[AnotherMcIntosh]

12. A perfect fit? Has the Washington Times also called for more jobs?

[Spazito]

14. Do some research on James Woods and find how credible he is on anything....

hence the reason they are a perfect fit.

[joeybee12]

26. James Woods, Dick Cheney's f**k buddy...

He never met a middle easterner he didn't want to kill...

[Spazito]

38. Yep, or a woman he wouldn't verbally abuse...

it seems. He's a complete POS for so many reasons.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

39. "Do some research"? How about research on jobs being shipped to and maintained in foreign countries?

If manufacturing jobs are taken from the inner cities and shipped to foreign countries, isn't that racist?

I could be wrong, but I think that it is.

How much research do we have to do? This has been going on for some time. Even very slow people should "get it" by now.

[Spazito]

41. Hmmm, either you didn't research Woods and see why he has no credibility or...

you did and decided to ignore it.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

43. No, I did not research Woods. Until today, I did not even know that he made politically-related

statements.

But if it is true that he is the Devil incarnate, I think that he is right in that we need more jobs.

Excuse me, but I don't think that inner city dwellers who used to be able to find nearby manufacturing jobs will all be employed, or can all be employed, in the service industries whatever they are.

Apparently, some people are not concerned about unemployment. James Woods, at least to some extent, is.

[Spazito]

46. Uh huh

[AnotherMcIntosh]

49. Actually, the newsmax source has him saying that he's not going to twitter about political issues

again.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/James-Woods-Obama-Trayvon/2013/07/21/id/516195

Once may have been enough for him.

[Spazito]

50. Newsmax, yet another rabid right wing link...

again, a perfect fit for James Woods.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

61. This was found on Google News, at the top. How are you familiar with so many right wing sources?

Do you have a list of which sources are right-wing sources?

If his statement that he is not going to twitter again about a political issue, and if Newmax is a right-wing source, should we disbelieve him?

[Spazito]

68. I tend to take note of rabid right wing sites that spew hate and right wing propaganda

so I can avoid them, unlike some posters.

Newsmax, the Washington Times and James Woods, none have credibility and all full of hate and rabidly right wing.

[Number23]

75. Nailed it

I tend to take note of rabid right wing sites that spew hate and right wing propaganda so I can avoid them, unlike some posters.

You are the epitome of class, Spazito. You can cut somebody to shreds and they not even realize it.

I'm having a very hard time with this forum lately, even more than usual. We now have people posting comments from third rate Republican actors published in The Washington Times and Newsmax for the sole purpose of shitting on this president and juries letting it stand 2-4.

[Spazito]

86. Hey Number 23!

It's good to see you, virtually speaking! I have the same frustrations as you, as you can tell by my posts. I recently decided to post 'back' instead of avoiding it as I was doing previously.

[Number23]

99. I see you doing that! And I am so glad to see it

You are calm and incredibly informed. You are definitely one that should be "posting back."

I am too emotional, particularly about some of the racial shit that I've been seeing around here. I simply cannot abide some of the grade A garbage that I'm seeing, particularly as I know for a fact that this kind of stuff is exactly the reason so many black posters have left DU.

For instance, I benignly mentioned yesterday that a well known poster was black and another poster was just simply shocked, SHOCKED to learn that many black posters here like, actually KNOW who alot of the other black posters are. The poster has openly acknowledged that she's black many times, but for some reason, that just confused the hell out of this other person, that minority posters know one another here. Are people afraid that we'll form some sort of gang or something?

The criticism people are launching at the president over his Trayvon speech has truly been a new low around here. And that is TRULY saying something. And it's always interesting that those who seem so concerned about what black people think and are always trying to act as though they have the first goddamned clue what we think about/worry about are never, ever, EVER the ones that have so much as stepped a toe in the AA forum here. Maybe that's one of the reasons I know who's black and who gives a shit about black issues around here and is not just taking pot shots at the president over things they really need to just shut up and listen over.

Sorry. That was a long post. Quite upset over alot of stuff that I've been seeing around here lately.

[Spazito]

105. I completely agree with you...

the topic of Trayvon Martin and him being stalked, confronted, shot and killed and his killer walks away scot-free and the frenzy to defend his killer has brought out a side of some posters I never knew existed before. It has been a big eye-opener for me.

When the inevitable posts came out against the President's comments, that just tells me he hit another home-run and the frothing at the mouth right wing commentators and those who quote them make what the President talked about even more credible and important.

I am not always calm, believe me. I find myself leaving my computer more often, going outside for some fresh air, taking some deep breaths before coming back and posting in thread that upsets me or responding to a post that does the same.

[Number23]

107. You are such a good egg.

This web site really needs your voice. And Whoops, am I not supposed to know that you're Canadian and a woman just like I'm not supposed to know who's black around here??? I don't think I will ever get over that... the SHOCK that the black posters on a web site that's like 98% non-black would actually know one another. If these folks so shocked could see some of the PM's that get sent... they'd understand well why most of us do know who is black. Hell, I think black folks reach out to one another so much on DU because so many of us feel similarly besieged here as we do in other places.

I hear everything that you're saying. But signing off for a few days doesn't do it for me anymore. And yes, the "eye opening stuff" you're seeing, I'm seeing too. And have for a long time.

[Spazito]

109. OMG, you're not supposed to know that!111!!

It boggles my mind that a poster seemed to think there was something wrong with knowing other black posters! Why the hell would they be shocked is beyond me. I don't get it, I truly don't.

I cannot walk in your shoes, experience the racism and bigotry black men and women experience every day but I CAN and WILL stand with you in fighting racism and bigotry with every fiber of my being.

Thank you, Number23, for your kind words to me, I appreciate them more than you know!

[treestar]

141. So typical of their "criticism."

The President "does nothing." Then does something, so it is "not good enough." I have little idea who James Woods is, but google shows him to be a white guy. So he's going to tell Obama what to say about race. Yeah, right.

[orpupilofnature57]

81. Watch out all that keeping track of skewed, and biased bullshit, could

seep in by osmosis .

[Spazito]

89. It's not a problem, I don't go to the sites...

you can usually tell just by their headline in a search. It's unfortunate some don't recognize them or....do, still read them and post their links here.

[orpupilofnature57]

82. Watch out all that keeping track of skewed, and biased bullshit, could

seep in by osmosis

[trumad]

80. uh...

If you're politically astute. ..you know these are right wing shit rags.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

88. So, if I'm not politicially astute, does that mean that Woods is wrong on the employment issue?

[CakeGrrl]

13. Way to miss the point, Woods

Trayvon Martin's murder had nothing to do with his employment status, level of education, or skills.

He was walking home from the store and was profiled and stalked for the way he looked.

If Woods is too obtuse to see the problem there, he's part of the problem.

[Mr. David]

16. Oops, I was thinking of Peter Wellers, not Woods...

[NoOneMan]

15. "Woods may not know that the DOW is at an all-time peak"

What's that have to do with the price of tea in China?

all that is needed is more time when everyone (except in foreign countries) is going to be employed in service jobs

Am I missing the sarcasm?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

22. Yes. Sarcasm is sometimes overlooked on the web.

[SidDithers]

21. Washington Moonie Times?...

Sid

[AnotherMcIntosh]

23. Calling for more jobs must be a "Moonie" thing, now that you mention it.

[Raffi Ella]

28. yeah, too bad your friends in Congress refuse to even put forth a jobs bill.

Isn't it fun to create a problem and then point fingers instead of actually giving a damn about your countrymen and the welfare of our nation.

Racism is why Trayvon Martin was murdered, plain and simple. James Woods can go fuck himself and.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

40. I have "friends in Congress"? Obviously, you are confusing me with someone else.

The rich and the super-rich have friends in Congress.

[Locut0s]

27. Woods wanted to nuke Iraq...

I can still remember him saying "launch" not long after 9/11 happened when interviewed on one of the nightly talk shows. He also strongly supported the Iraq war and I can remember him saying that we should turn Iraq into a flat glassy plane or something to that effect.

Not saying what he said here is right or wrong, but I don't tend to listen to anything this guy says. Let it come from others.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

34. Was alcohol involved?

[Locut0s]

37. Possibly I don't know...

I don't know anything about his alcohol problems, though I'm not surprised if he has one. Is he well known for making statements when drunk? Either way he is a well known strong Republican supporter.

[tblue]

32. He's a Republican donor.

I remember because I did a search for "actor" on a campaign donor website. There weren't that many who gave to Republicans, so the few who did stood out. (Most are rather odd types. Dan Akroyd was one.)

[AnotherMcIntosh]

33. If so, even a broken clock ...

[geek tragedy]

66. I bet you loved this part

"The only reason people lock their car doors when Obama walks by is they are afraid he'll tax them to death . . . "

not. fooling. anyone

[AnotherMcIntosh]

70. No. I didn't refer to it. I didn't pay attention to it. And it has nothing to do with jobs.

[geek tragedy]

71. How about the part re: "Bloated welfare state"

That didn't clue you in to the fact that Woods wasn't upset with Obama from a leftwing/use government to provide more jobs perspective?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

74. Nope, didn't refer or pay attention to that either. If anything is bloated, it's the military-

industrial complex which is morphing into the prison-industrial complex.

[geek tragedy]

77. So magically you managed to read only the one isolated sentence in the entire story.

Amazing.

[frazzled]

35. Why would you even post this?

So when we say--"James Woods the vocal and ardent supporter of George W. Bush and the Iraq War? James Woods the guy who "saw" people acting funny on an airplane and decided they were terrorists? James Woods who is otherwise kinda crazy? (Though I like him as a crazy actor). And James Woods in the Washington Times?"---

that the usual crowd can say: "Attacking the messenger, eh ..."

Yeah, for the record, I'm attacking the messenger. Big time.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

42. His statements are contemporary ones. Bush-II isn't in office. The Iraq War is over.

[frazzled]

101. Buzz: wrong answer

Jeezus, people will try to quote anybody who fits their hissy fit du jour, whether it's James Wood, Ron Paul, or ... Mitch McConnell. Not buying.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

131. Buzz: wrong answer yourself.

James Woods is not Ron Paul.

James Woods is not Mitch McConnell.

Both Paul and McConnel are famous, or infamous, politicians.

James Woods is an actor.

[Zen Democrat]

45. James Woods is more famous for being a right-winger than he is for being an actor.

Note the theme: Woods blasts Obama. No surprise there.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

47. "more famous for being a right-winger than he is for being an actor"? Says who?

[msanthrope]

48. Oh....it's you. With another rightvwing source, bashing the President.

Yawn....

[AtomicKitten]

51. Has Chuck Norris weighed in yet?

I await his input with bated breath.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

65. Unlikely. Doesn't Chuck Norris favor manufacturing employment in the foreign country that

manufacturers his "home gym" that he sells on TV ads?

It's unlikely that he would have any objection to the low employment in this country.

[ProSense]

52. What an utterly

"And one more, from the actor:

“Racial integration has worked in the Armed Forces because everyone has a job ...”

...stupid comment, and Newsmax?

Everyone in the military has a job, and that didn't prevent discrimination against the LGBT community.

Does this clown think that if the unemployment rate was 4 percent or even 2 percent, racism in this country would go away?

[Autumn]

53. It really sucks when a right winger makes sense.

rec, just because it makes sense.

[ProSense]

54. It doesn't make any fucking sense, but it is a RWinger and RW source. n/t

[Autumn]

57. It makes fucking sense to me

Give everyone JOBS and EDUCATION and SKILLS TRAINING.” beats the fuck out of being fucking unemployed or stuck in low wage paying jobs at McDonalds or Walmart.

[ProSense]

59. Right,

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"Give everyone JOBS and EDUCATION and SKILLS TRAINING.” beats the fuck out of being fucking unemployed or stuck in low wage paying jobs at McDonalds or Walmart."

...because Zimmerman was unemployed, and that's the reason he shot Trayvon.

Yup, RW idiocy from Woods, check.

[Autumn]

60. I get it. You don't think it would help at all.

Fine by me. I think it would help. A difference of opinion.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

128. You say that Zimmerman was unemployed. Actually, Zimmerman was employed as an insurance underwriter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

[ProSense]

130. Duh?

Thanks for pointing out that the RW asshole you quoted has no fucking point.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

135. Excuse me but you're the one who said that Zimmerman was unemployed.

I know of no instance in which James Woods said that Zimmerman was unemployed.

I know of no instance in which James Woods said or indicated that his concern was the employment status of Zimmerman in particular instead of the employment problem of Americans in general.

Woods seems to think that greater employment of Americans in general would reduce the racial problem while, unless I'm mistaken, you seem to think that Zimmerman's status of being unemployed or employed should have somehow affected his interaction with Martin.

[ProSense]

140. You're excused because your snark meter is obviously broken. n/t

[geek tragedy]

64. Like the part where he bashes Obama for "taxing people to death" or the part

where he decries the "bloated welfare state."

You got played by the OP, who never met a rightwing smear of Obama he wouldn't post at DU.

[Autumn]

79. Woods can bash Obama all he wants, I don't care.

But I'm going to give kudos to anyone who thinks and says "JOBS and EDUCATION and SKILLS TRAINING” would help this problem, those things would help a lot of problems. As for "bloated welfare state." "taxing people to death", I wasn't interested enough to read that far.

[geek tragedy]

83. Those parts came before the part you liked.

Woods was essentially saying "racism isn't the problem, the problem is that blacks are uneducated, unskilled, and can't hold down a job."

It was putrid wingnut racialist trash.

Racial integration has worked in the Armed Forces because everyone has a job, gets training in a skill, and MUST respect the rank of others."

...


"For Sharpton et al, racial disharmony is in part a business. They thrive on discord, while we diverse Americans thrive on harmony."

[AnotherMcIntosh]

92. Wow. What a racist statement. And untrue. Woods did not say "racism isn't the problem, the

problem is that blacks are uneducated, unskilled, and can't hold down a job."

[Autumn]

96. I read the first two bolded comments in the OP and that was what I commented on.

Do you think only blacks face racism? They aren't. Jobs and education can lead to equality IMO.

[geek tragedy]

55. LMAO. You drop the Moonie Times link and replace it with NEWSMAX.

You folks are so cute, you try so hard . . .

[AnotherMcIntosh]

67. If that's objectionable, look on Google News and pick a different source.

[geek tragedy]

69. A different source for you peddling rightwing sewage here?

Fuck that. Woods essentially said that blacks have it rough because they don't like to work because they live in a "bloated welfare state" and made cracks about how Obama wants to "tax people to death."

Your buddies in the Gungeon may eat this crap up, but you aint' fooling us.

[ProSense]

56. "The only reason people lock their car doors when Obama walks...

"The only reason people lock their car doors when Obama walks by is they are afraid he'll tax them to death . . . " (That one got more than 1,000 retweets.)"

There's your RW genius.

[JaneyVee]

58. Gee, which party has blocked 17 jobs bills and cut education?

[LongTomH]

62. I don't know that much about James Woods or his views.......

.......and I'd like to know even less!!!!

[thelordofhell]

63. If James Woods is such a genius............

Then why is he a republican........

[AnotherMcIntosh]

73. If you disapprove of him and only value geniuses, then his views on unemployment must be wrong.

[thelordofhell]

102. You must improve your comprehension skills

I said none of what you're claiming in my post

1. never said I disapprove of him
2. never said I only value genius
3. never said his views on unemployment must be wrong

Once again, if James Woods is such a genius.......then why is he a republican??

[AnotherMcIntosh]

117. "If" is the word that began the sentence.

[thelordofhell]

153. Double Facepalm for you.............

[Kingofalldems]

72. Are newsmax and the moonies allowed on DU?

Only republicans use them as sources. Ohhh, I see.

[Politicalboi]

78. WTF?

“Racial integration has worked in the Armed Forces because everyone has a job ...”

I thought the government doesn't create jobs. I guess Woods lost count as to how many times the GOP have voted to abolish Obamacare rather than working on jobs bills. Only 38 times, and still time for more votes before 2014.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

85. Why would you think that the government doesn't create jobs? If Woods said that, I missed it.

[alcibiades_mystery]

84. Whever said it WAS sufficient?

It was necessary, but certainly not sufficient. Obviously.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

90. Whoever? James Woods. But he apparently said that he's not going to use twitter again

to post politicial or economic views.

[geek tragedy]

94. Yeah, I'm sure he's saying the problem is that white people lack those things. nt

[last1standing]

87. Wow! What a bloodbath.

While I agree that your links (moonie times and newsmax) are generally awful sites filled with right wing nutbaggery and that James Woods usually supports very right wing policies, I still agree to an extent that more jobs do often lead to fewer incidents of racial strife.

If unemployment were back under 5% as in the Clinton years and we were looking at a budget surplus instead of a deficit, then yes, we would likely have less overt racism because there would be less need to scapegoat those who don't look or act like us. That's just common sense that happens to be supported by research.

On the other hand, Woods has a lot of gall to suggest these things when it is because of his support (as well as many other ignorant and spiteful republicans) that we do not have a low unemployment rate or a budget surplus. His party is currently fighting to destroy the minimum wage, refuses any stimulus package, and continues to push austerity policies which have been proved to harm the economy.

[Iris]

91. So if Zimmerman had a job, education and skills training, he wouldn't have killed a person?

I don't really get it.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

93. Zimmerman did have a job, didn't he?

[Iris]

100. Then what's Woods's point?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

115. Maybe Woods thinks that conditions should have been better so that more people could have jobs.

[Iris]

148. That still wouldn't have changed what Zimmerman did.

[Bluenorthwest]

95. James Woods is a right winger, when he uses the words 'jobs education and

skills training' while talking about the aftermath of the death of a kid in high school you have to understand he is using code words, he is not speaking of needs he sees in the community but of the failings he perceives in the people of those communities. I mean, Trayvon was in high school, he was gaining an education and skills and he was not in need of a job he was a student. So what's all that language supposed to mean?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

114. Obviously, if James Woods is a right winger, he must be wrong.

[JoePhilly]

97. A great example of how a right wing nut job can easily rile up the disgruntled left.

Woods is a total whack job ... but because he said something negative about the President ... suddenly he has a point.

Woods' point was to say one tiny thing that the disgruntled can latch on to, so that they'll run around screaming in agreement with him.

Woods doesn't know jack about race, about jobs, or about the economy ... but suddenly his words are important and worth repeating.

Woods is no more interested in the creation of more jobs (for people of any race) than John Boehner.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

116. Why should there be any disgruntled left?

[quinnox]

98. You bet - more jobs, better education and skills training are needed big time

And if we had a functional congress and presidency, these kinds of policies would have been passed ages ago. I don't understand how anyone can't agree with that statement, regardless of who said it.

[JI7]

103. James Woods ? he is the one who lied about some suspicious Arab men on a Plane after 9/11 ?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

113. Obviously, if he "lied about some suspicious Arab men on a plane," he must be wrong.

[mwrguy]

104. Woods is a Libertarian

Fuck that guy.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

110. How can you say that when so many say he's a Republican? But he must be obviously wrong.

[mwrguy]

143. six of one

Half dozen of the other

[Spirochete]

106. And he's a member of Mensa?

As far as I can tell, he's just a teabagger who happens to oppose the death penalty.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

112. If, as you say, he's a teabagger, he must be wrong.

[DevonRex]

108. Posting garbage from RWers, using RW sources, to bash the Democratic president -

the African American Democratic President of the United States, might be considered anti-Democratic Party. Or anti-African American even, since it's beyond imagination that James Woods, a famous RWer cares at all about African Americans. Or that the Mooney Times does. Or that the Republican Party does.

Maybe you didn't get the memo, though.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

111. Obviously James Woods is wrong.

[ProSense]

118. No, he's not "wrong"

He doesn't make any fucking sense. He's spewing RW talking points. Newmax is a RW rag. You posted this nonsense, and are trying your best to create the impression that this clown made a valid point.

Let's grab some other RW sources and play up this asshole.

James Woods Calls Rolling Stone Publisher an 'A**hole,' Calls for Boycott
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/07/18/james-woods-trashes-rolling-stone

How about a little racist profiling:

James Woods Reported Suspicious Passengers to FBI
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102372&page=1

[AnotherMcIntosh]

123. If you really want to go after him, why not point out that he just dumped his 26-year-old girlfriend

in favor of a 20-year old?

That, in my view, is totally wrong.

[ProSense]

124. How about I "point out" this:

The only reason people lock their car doors when Obama walks by is they are afraid he'll tax them to death . . . " (That one got more than 1,000 retweets.)

In response to other Twitter users, Woods responded, "Though I only have anecdotal evidence, I have personally watched diversity flourish in this country in my 66 years." and "For Sharpton et al, racial disharmony is in part a business. They thrive on discord, while we diverse Americans thrive on harmony."

That's more of his wisdom from your RW source.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

126. You are obviously right and your right-wing source that you are now rely upon is wrong.

[ProSense]

129. Did you want to limit the use of RW sources to yourself?

It's a RW source quoting the same RW asshole in your OP.

By your standards, you should be thrilled.

[DevonRex]

133. Hilarious. She points out what ELSE he said in the SAME article,

stuff you conveniently ignored but still linked to here, and you comment ridiculously that she's using a RW source, even though you dragged the swill here to begin with. You've got some kind of gall.

[dionysus]

138. could be colic. nothing a good burping can't fix.

[DevonRex]

145. Hey, it's your turn. I did it last time.

And that other thing, too. Whew!

[AnotherMcIntosh]

139. Under the theory that "a broken clock can be right twice a day," why would anyone point out

how a broken clock was wrong the rest of the day?

You want to point out, or have someone else point out, how Woods has otherwise been wrong? Do it. Or just look at some of the other posts. In fact, even when I have agreed with some that James Woods may be wrong in other areas, they don't want to hear it.

[DevonRex]

146. You claimed you didn't know he was a RWer. Now you're saying it was ok

to link on the broken clock rule. But you know what? A broken clock isn't right. It's just broken. If it broke at 5:00 and you look at it at 3:00 what good is it? How do know it's 5:00 and you can look at it when it's right? Because you went to a source, another clock, that isn't broken. And since you did that, why look at the broken one? It's still broken - not right.

[dionysus]

136. here's a shovel... keep digging down on the FAIL....

[DevonRex]

127. On many, many things which you ignored yet Linked To in this piece.

To a couple of RW rags. If James Woods ever says something right the very first question to ask is "What is his ulterior motive?" And when a poster holds a few James Woods' words up as being good (while leaving out the trashy ones) I ask the same question.

Because DU has given me reason to be cynical. Because I now know we aren't anything like a community here. Some fellow members will sooner rip another member's psyche to shreds because s/he supports the Democratic president than say President Obama did a single thing the right way. That is just my opinion.

[dionysus]

134. you authoritarian (newest one), bootlicking mccarthyite (other newest one), turd way

lickspittle!11111(eleventy!)

you mean like that?

[DevonRex]

142. That pretty much covers it, hee hee!

I finally had to trash keywords. I don't ignore people. But I don't cotton to cheering Putin and booing Obama. Just doesn't sit well with me at all.

[dionysus]

122. you better believe it!

[DevonRex]

125. Yes, I seem to recall

Better Believe It from somewhere. Now why does that name ring a bell?

[dionysus]

132. we should ask the smiling north koreans!

[DevonRex]

137. Haha!!! They only smile after they get a meal.

Once a day.

[treestar]

144. I was going to post that!

[Kingofalldems]

119. Reads like freeper taunting from here.

[dionysus]

120. you Better Believe It! nt.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

121. I saw what you were doing there.

[bravenak]

147. I'm sure not having a job was the reason Trayvon was assassinated.

If he would have just been slaving away at his child labor factory he would have ceased looking suspicious enough to be followed home by a gun toting punk.
Being employed makes your skin lighter.

[spanone]

149. idgit

[AnotherMcIntosh]

150. Yes, you are.

[spanone]

152. double idgit